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There are a number of Devialet Phantom owners in the forum. Thought it would be useful to start an owner’s thread to exchange notes and also, be a good introduction for others.
Many people know the Phantom as a lifestyle product with incredible bass but do not realise that a stereo pair makes a good hifi system. The Phantoms have 2 ranges, the newer, smaller Reactor and the Premier range. The Reactor is natively compatible with Spotify Connect, Airplay, UPnP and Bluetooth (with more to come) while a Premier has all the streaming connections, see here.
The Phantoms are “Roon tested”, which means Roon is accessible via Airplay or via a Roon endpoint feeding the optical input. Phantoms will be “Roon Ready” when Roon Advanced Audio Transport (RAAT) is implemented; RAAT connectivity is in the works, ETA unknown.
There are some limitations. The DAC is capable of playing up to 24/192 music, no support for DSD/DSF nor MQA. Roon can compensate by transcoding DSD/DSF and doing first MQA unfold.
While the Phantoms are very good out of the box, these things make them even better:
Get a stereo pair which is significantly better than one. However, it is not easy to audition them as a pair because most retailers (and Devialet!) position them as a lifestyle product. Thus, retailers usually set them up as singles in the store. Note that stereo pairing of the Premier range requires a Dialog hub (not needed, not compatible with Reactors). Put Phantoms on speaker stands (e.g. Devialet Tree and Treepod for Premier range, but other stands also work) to elevate them to ear level Pay attention to the position in the room, speaker alignment and toe-in. While the Phantoms are much more forgiving than many speakers, focussing on their placement will improve the sound Use Isoacoustics Aperta 100 aluminium stand. Putting the Phantom on an Isoacoustics stand reduces smearing of instruments and is particularly effective when the Phantom is sitting on furniture. Note that these stands are usually stocked and sold as black pairs; to get aluminium coloured pairs, retailer orders from distributor. Apply room correction to improve detail, resolution and bass management. Options include using miniDSP with Dirac Live, DSpeaker (both via optical input) or Roon room correction. For UPnP, use Minimserver Convolution.
Official help on Phantoms installation and usage here. Devialet Chat is the unofficial user forum.
Please post your experience with the Devialet Phantoms and suggest other improvements that worked for you. And questions are most welcome.
Item: Meridian 861 v8, Meridian 5000c, Meridian HD621, Devialet 200 companion, Arcam irdac, Q Acoustics 2020i, Q Acoustics BT3, Bluesound Node 2, Boston Acoustics VR3, Logitech Squeezebox
Price: Listed below
Item Condition: Very Good
Reason for selling: Surplus
Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, Bank Transfer
Meridian 861 V8 Surround Processor $ 6200
Meridian 861V8 Reference Digital Surround Sound Processor, in excellent operational condition, comes with remote, box and accessories.
note - there is small chip on the front fascia (picture below), occurred while moving out the rack. CORE cards are fitted as standard Version 8: 2X OA08 Analogue Output card, with 4x Analogue Outputs, Phono, configurable, with 24-bit, 192kHz DAC. IE44 6x Digital Audio Inputs, Phono, D1 to D6 can be configured as 2x six-channel digital inputs with Meridian SmartLink performance. 2x Optical Audio Inputs, Toslink. SpeakerLink Input, RJ45. Meridian Multi-channel High Resolution (MMHR) Input, RJ45. IA04 6x Analogue Stereo Inputs, Phono. Can be configured as 2x six-channel analogue inputs. ID29 Digital Input card with 1x USB input, 3x Optical Audio Inputs, Toslink, 2x SpeakerLink inputs, RJ45. OE34 8x Digital Output, SpeakerLink. L, R, C, SUB, Side L, Side R, Rear L, Rear R. CD20 & EF20: Internal (no rear panel) 48-bit DSP cards Meridian 5000c Center Speaker $ 550 Meridian HD621 Audio Processor $ 700
unit was used in a rack shelve and do have the original feet, refer to the picture.
Devialet Expert 200 Companion $ 4200
LE 200 Companion has pretty much the same functionality as the regular Devialet Expert 200 - except no WiFi streaming module(Air).
Arcam irdac $ 350
Q Acoustics 2020i bookshelf speaker $ 270
Q Acoustics BT3 $ 380
Bluesound Node 2 $ 550
Logitech Squeezebox $ 150
Boston Acoustics VR3 $ 650
By SHF Staff
Item: Devialet 400
Location: Sydney Hi-Fi Castle Hill Shop 7/19 Victoria Avenue Castle Hill, NSW
Item Condition: Excellent with boxes
Reason for selling: Trade In
Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Cards
We sold the units to our client originally and he has just traded the Devialet 400 in on a new system. The original purchase price was $22,500. the units and remote are in excellent condition. We have the original boxes so interstate shipping can be arranged at an extra cost.
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What have I DONE!??? I now have a stereo pair of mutant Stormtrooper helmets with gold bling!
I moved from a setup with all these components and lots of cables
to something which resembled a pair of mutant Stormtrooper helmets with gold bling !
Otherwise known as Devialet Phantom Gold, they provided superb audio quality expected of a high end hifi system in a pair of components, each slightly larger than a soccer ball !
What convinced me?
It started with a post from @andrewhollo (thank you Andrew!) who moved from the same brand active speakers to the Phantom Golds and I had a discussion with him.
The reviews of the Phantom Gold often praised the audio quality, particularly the bass but gave a thumbs down for the pricing. However, most reviews were for a single speaker targeted at the wireless market. However, this article changed things:
Steve Huff is well known in the photography world but has a passion for hifi. He swapped over to the Phantom Golds with improved AQ. Steve mentioned that getting the phantoms on stands and positioning the speakers were critical. It was backed up by Andrew’s description of a night and day difference between a single Gold and a stereo pair.
The audition at Klapp AV, as a single speaker (& typical of most retailers), confirmed the ability to deliver detail and bass. Despite the impressive bass, I still had some concerns about the whether it could deliver good enough bass in my difficult room. Had to rely on reviews, and Andrew, for their feedback on stereo performance.
So How Do They Sound?
The Phantom Golds provide a superb musical sound stage with detail. Sound stage is open and airy, much better than previously. Resolution of individual instruments has improved. Details are all there.
Regarding the bass, there was no doubt that the Golds are better than old setup without subs. The room is an open plan family room with no bass traps. The Golds lose to the highly optimised dual sub setup but that is not a surprise. It took a long time to get to that state with a target curve that boosts bass by 4 dB, but tails off below 30 Hz. However, the Golds matched the setup optimised with dual subs without a target curve. Impressive indeed! 👍 Potentially, bass could be improved further by playing with the positioning within the room; this flexibility was not available in the previous setup.
WOW! I was losing almost nothing with the bass and gained a better musical sound stage with the helmets!
Apps are not perfect
Not too sure about the Spark App which is not as good as BluOS. Am using BubbleUpnp app on to access the music on the NAS and that is working reasonably well. Please note that BubbleUpnp app is extremely sensitive to wifi dropouts and not recommended for rooms with poor wifi. A move to Roon may be the next step.
Don’t dismiss a system because it looks different. Simplicity should be the driver Enjoy the music not the journey/thrill of upgrading and adding components which leads to increased complexity; see lesson 2
A stereo pair of Devialet Phantom Golds on stands delivers audio quality that can at least match many high end audio systems costing a lot more. It may be a challenge to audition them as a stereo pair on stands, but until you do, do not dismiss them. A stereo pair of Phantom Golds is a seriously good setup.
Can now spend more time listening, which is what this game should be about…
Before and after
Components and cabling replaced