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This is probably going to be the shortest showcase thread ever as the upgrade path from here is fairly limited. I was undecided about posting here as it sort of means a pause in the journey but it was deliberate. Kids are starting high school and time for playing around with hi-fi seems to be getting less and less and want to explore some other hobbies.

 

This was actually my biggest ever single purchase but I replaced a pre amp, amp, speakers and many cables so the end investment was not much different.

 

I listened to only one of these in the showroom and was just gob smacked.

I took a punt and bought a pair of Silver Phantoms along with the Dialog controller and the remote.

 

Firstly, aesthetics are very pleasing (at least to me and the wife) which is a first.

Secondly, it really simplified my set-up.

 

So I currently have the Tbox into Oppo 105 and out to TV to cover TV, Netflix and CD's/Movies. Oppo is optical out to the Dialog which feeds audio to the speakers.

 

Into one of the Phantoms I have the SBT which is connected to Roon/Tidal. SBT does up to 24/192 beautifully via optical. At first I was a bit skeptical about optical and jitter etc but my understanding is the Phantoms correct most of it internally via DSP anyway.

 

Can also do Tidal/music library direct via the Spark app but it is a bit clunky. The optical inputs just switch automagically.

 

One interesting thing is the Phantoms connect to the Dialog via PLC (power line) if they are on the same power board. Nifty. Otherwise you can go ethernet or wifi.

 

I love the sound. It is just so clean, low distortion with the best bass I have ever had in my room. Even if you are not a bass head, this would convert you. Still needs speaker placement etc as per any other speakers and they do have their own stands which are yet to arrive in Oz. I see no need for a subwoofer unless you have a much bigger room. You can just keep turning them up and they just don't have any break up.

 

They do not have the what I call "shoutiness" that some smaller speakers have and are great for TV etc. I am not a big movie watcher so not sure if it will please all in that area.

 

I am toying with the idea of getting an ADC to connect the turntable but am still a bit unsure about it.

 

The nice thing is I can see they can add features through software updates (recently added Spotify connect) and even the little Dialog box which is just a computer could be swapped out for a new one if it added functionality/features.

 

It is a bit of an adjustment going to a full digital system like this as the "tweakability" is almost nil but they make me smile every time I listen and I am digging into the depths of Tidal/Roon throwing all sorts of music at it and I cannot fault them.

 

They may not be hi-fi for some but I think they would surprise many. One thing for sure is they really are an innovative design that I can see will be copied to some extent, it just makes too much sense.

 

Now I need to update the room decor a bit to match the speakers. It really doesn't end does it?

 

I know photos or it didn't happen.

 

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Quick video of the woofers having a party! http://stevec.vidmeup.com/view?q=56ce850795d1a.flv
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Congratulations Steve. It takes a ton of self-awareness and pragmatism to tear yourself away from the traditional hifi path and pursue a simpler route to audio nirvana. It was only today I grappled with the reality that I haven't had a critical listening session for the better part of the last 3 months. With the kids growing up and the strains of everyday life tugging at every corner 90% of my music listening is usually background, and if I'm luck the odd hour here and there amidst conversation with my wife in the lounge. When you consider the reality of all of that a $50K HiFi appears to be a bit of a waste. The thought of selling all/some of my gear and starting again, all be it simpler is very tempting. 

 

I'm really happy to hear that the experience of simplifying has turned out to be a pleasant surprise for you. 

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It's fine. Not sure about the price though. The range seems to be limited to maybe 4-5m so not for the other side of the house. I only wish they put a little lcd on it to show the volume so you have to use your ears! Because I use it for TV I needed it for the family to access volume without having to use an iPad. I use it all the time as I don't use Spark much.

Oh and yes your partners will want you to pass the face cream!

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ProJect is releasing a turntable with an optical output that would work with the Phantoms :)

 

Otherwise have a look at the NuWave Phono Converter. 

 

I thought the single Phantom was a bit gimmicky. I mean it sounded good but I couldn't live with a mono channel.

 

But in Stereo - they were really good in their own right, not good as a wireless speaker. 

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I did the same as you Steve, bought two Silver P's and can't believe how good they are given their size. I went with some white stands and they look terrific. Also now use a white TT through a jaycar $40 ADC (does 48/192 if you need it) and it sounds great using the optical in on the back of one phantom. There is a thread on the devialet phantom page about using Roon through Rasberry Pis etc to play DSD material, if that's of interest.

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I did the same as you Steve, bought two Silver P's and can't believe how good they are given their size. I went with some white stands and they look terrific. Also now use a white TT through a jaycar $40 ADC (does 48/192 if you need it) and it sounds great using the optical in on the back of one phantom. There is a thread on the devialet phantom page about using Roon through Rasberry Pis etc to play DSD material, if that's of interest.

 

Thanks, yes Roon will play DSD through the SBT, it just down samples to PCM 24/192 which is fine. I like the look of the Sonicorbiter SE but not sure it it will sound any better than the SBT.

 

Did you go for the Devialet stands? I thought you couldn't get them yet?

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Q accoustics concept 20 stands, a perfect match and far cheaper than the Devialet Branch stands which have a tacky wood veneer front.

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Q accoustics concept 20 stands, a perfect match and far cheaper than the Devialet Branch stands which have a tacky wood veneer front.

There is also a pure white version of those stands.

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Glad to read you're enjoying them!

My Phantoms and I are enjoying our first anniversary!

I'm still very happy with them. Roon/optical is the way to go with these. The Spark app is ok but a bit too basic for me - I like a few extra search functions, shuffle, playlists etc. I've been using an iFi iLink to minimise jitter, but really I'm straining to tell the difference.

I still have my main system but the phantoms are in my work space so I listen to them all day every day. Love the big sound from small form factor.

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Nice setup and room. Tricky little speakers!!

My tiles are very similar to yours, thanks for the wall colour ideas. :)

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Really interesting system... These little things have me very curious...

 

Nicely done mate

 

M

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Would love to hear a set of these..

 

 

Really interesting system... These little things have me very curious...

 

Nicely done mate

 

M

If you're moving those princes on let me know! :)

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These look great, nicely done.

 

I will be interested to hear your experience with the TT playing through digital. In my mind, that defeats the purpose of a TT entirely, but i dont know how it sounds.

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Spot the difference

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Wow - I tried to get these past the ball & chain to no avail so I shall continue building my wall of gear

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I was a little shocked by the price of the Branch stands :) but it turns out there's a fair bit more to it. There's an Ethernet and optical connection at the base of the stand that replicates the inputs on the back of Phantoms.

And it provides a really rigid foundation for the bass to shine.

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Yes I know they are not cheap but I went this far so I thought may as well complete the set. I am still finding cables that I don't need since simplifying. They are very solid and stable and sound has improved. Cable management is very neat.

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Wow - I tried to get these past the ball & chain to no avail so I shall continue building my wall of gear

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Oh are you supposed to ask first?

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Oh are you supposed to ask first?

It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission...so I have heard.

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Home early from work due to excellent planning on my part. Weather is amazing. Too early for a drink?

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How are those Phantoms kicking along @@SteveC ?

And thanks for the Clapton rekkid recommendation.

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Love em , I'm still looking for the hidden sub.

For some reason when I look at them I feel like I should be playing:

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I'm going to look into this - it looks like a seriously practical end game solution to stop at the precipice before it gets well out of hand. I like what I see - a paradigm shift which rarely happens in HIFI

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