mdm1979 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My Mont Marte glue order arrived today from http://www.artshedonline.com.au/mont-marte-clear-school-glue-147ml-washable/ Great service, tracking etc. will report with my findings later. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Send up your collection. I'll clean it at $2 a pop. Like brand new when finished I used to have access to free courier service Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Send up your collection. I'll clean it at $2 a pop. Like brand new when finished Better watch out you could be a commercial member before you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Haven't put together the how to guide. But I was leaning a few records and took a pic or two Looks good, looking forward to further information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 @@Bill125812 Does not include the tank but at USD 275 and USD $100 for delivery. About A$550 landed and then you need a tank. The power is universal and only needs a plug adaptor or a friendly electrician. http://thevinylstack.com/ultrasonic-cleaning/ultra-sonic-spin-record-cleaning-kit/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 @@Bill125812 Does not include the tank but at USD 275 and USD $100 for delivery. About A$550 landed and then you need a tank. The power is universal and only needs a plug adaptor or a friendly electrician. http://thevinylstack.com/ultrasonic-cleaning/ultra-sonic-spin-record-cleaning-kit/ Looks much more refined than mine. But I built mine for about $200 including tank. I'll get around to putting a guide together soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david chau Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Haven't put together the how to guide. But I was leaning a few records and took a pic or two did you have a link to buy the machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happydogs Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 My Mont Marte glue order arrived today from http://www.artshedonline.com.au/mont-marte-clear-school-glue-147ml-washable/ Great service, tracking etc. will report with my findings later. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hi mdm1979 , How did you go with the glue cleaning?I picked up a 500ml bottle of the mont marte locally for $12, bought a $2 copy of vangelis - chariots of Fire from good sammys The LP was old and dusty but scratch free, gave it a quick clean in the spin clean and played it to gauge the before glue sound, bloody thing played perfectly, no pops or noise at all. I still glued it, but am no wiser to how good a cleaning method the glue is, though am now confident to try on some of my older LPs that the spin clean isn't cleaning as well as I would like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 did you have a link to buy the machine? These are links to the actual ultrasonic machine and the 3 rpm motor http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=121841553120&globalID=EBAY-AU http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=301731437116&globalID=EBAY-AU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) The other option is to use the cheaper motor and buy the vinyl record protector. USD 48 plus postage. I have sent them an email requesting the diameter of the hole. Just got a reply back from vinyl stack and the bore is 17/64 inch. Edited January 26, 2016 by Nap250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_F Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Haven't put together the how to guide. But I was leaning a few records and took a pic or two Ultrasonic tanks are built with the transducers under the BOTTOM of the tank. Great for cleaning stuff which lays out flat in a basket but mostly ineffective for LP's as the transducers need to be on the sides of the tank, which is why the very expensive ultrasonic record cleaners work so well. Has anybody located a unit with the transducers on the sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ultrasonic tanks are built with the transducers under the BOTTOM of the tank. Great for cleaning stuff which lays out flat in a basket but mostly ineffective for LP's as the transducers need to be on the sides of the tank, which is why the very expensive ultrasonic record cleaners work so well. Has anybody located a unit with the transducers on the sides? Hi Peter Well mate you are correct that the transducer is in the bottom. But you are incorrect in that they are useless on vinyl Read reviews on ultrasonic cleaners. I'm in the medical industry and such machines are used to clean laparoscopic instruments and many others that are suspended in the solution. These instruments are not in a basket or flat I have tried all sorts of record cleaning machines. This by far beats anything else I have tried I heat heat the solution to about 48 degrees and then the ultrasonics do the rest. Unplayable vinyl is after 12 mins like new Build one. It will work Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_F Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hi Peter Well mate you are correct that the transducer is in the bottom. But you are incorrect in that they are useless on vinyl Read reviews on ultrasonic cleaners. I'm in the medical industry and such machines are used to clean laparoscopic instruments and many others that are suspended in the solution. These instruments are not in a basket or flat I have tried all sorts of record cleaning machines. This by far beats anything else I have tried I heat heat the solution to about 48 degrees and then the ultrasonics do the rest. Unplayable vinyl is after 12 mins like new Build one. It will work Cheers Hi Bill I think what you guys are doing is great, and I contemplated it myself. I don't recall using the words useless, but I get your point. Although it's reasonable to consider that dipping an LP in water for 12 minutes without any other assistance would most likely release some of the contaminates from the vinyl surface. But there is a clear benefit to using a transducer on each side. Of course this is reflective of the price too. Cheers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I would agree having the transducters on the sides seems to make logical sense. However I would also think that if you want to do more than one record at a time on the bottom makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_F Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I would agree having the transducters on the sides seems to make logical sense. However I would also think that if you want to do more than one record at a time on the bottom makes more sense. Its a quality thing for me, not a numbers game. It honestly wouldn't bother me if it took a week to clean a single LP, as long as the job was done as good as could be. If I wanted quick and easy I would have discarded the vinyl format many years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Its a quality thing for me, not a numbers game. It honestly wouldn't bother me if it took a week to clean a single LP, as long as the job was done as good as could be. If I wanted quick and easy I would have discarded the vinyl format many years ago. I totally agree Peter. But after trying everything. This ultrasonic cleaner has changed my opinion of cleaning records I have now bought done very ordinary revords form markets. Quite dirty infact Put a batch through the machine. Hey presto. They look like new. And play like new. No pop and crackles. Just too easy for the money spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_F Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 That's a great result Bill. I may yet purchase one with the single transducer in the bottom. Cheers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happydogs Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Hi mdm1979 , How did you go with the glue cleaning? I picked up a 500ml bottle of the mont marte locally for $12, bought a $2 copy of vangelis - chariots of Fire from good sammys The LP was old and dusty but scratch free, gave it a quick clean in the spin clean and played it to gauge the before glue sound, bloody thing played perfectly, no pops or noise at all. I still glued it, but am no wiser to how good a cleaning method the glue is, though am now confident to try on some of my older LPs that the spin clean isn't cleaning as well as I would like. Am now a mont marte glue cleaning convert, recently bought a mint lp from discogs... The album arrived to me looking like it had been cleaned with light sandpaper. But what was worse even after two cleans in the spin clean it was unplayable. Applied the monte mart, and then cleaned in the spin clean again. The lp plays clean now. It's not mint but it's playable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigurh Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Just to add to the list of glues that work well - J Burrows Clear Gum Glue. $7.22 for 500ml from Officeworks. According to the label it's a water based craft adhesive that's pH neutral. It dry's in a very thin but strong layer. It peeled of cleanly in one piece leaving the record very clean. It's a bit harder to use than PVA glue as it's clear it's harder to see if you have an even thickness layer. It was tricky to get a finger nail under to start peeling and I was freaking out a bit that it wasn't coming off. Sensibly I used one of my Sister's old Mark Holden records as the guinea pig Once started it came off easily. Next time I'll use something as a lifting-off tab to make it easier. At about 1/6 the price of Record Revirginzer I think it's a winner! http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/j-burrows-clear-gum-glue-500ml-ssjbgum500 Edited March 24, 2016 by Chigurh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubeSoundAudio Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Our Revirginizer accessory, the Vinyl Record Cleaning (VRC) system is the equipment shown at the beginning of this post. Using Revirginizer with the VRC means you use 10ml per side rather than the 15-20ml recommended on the bottle, so half the cost. Other benefits include being able to treat both sides of the LP at once (the Mark II version) and using our unique Stack Rack drying method, by using a small desk fan to push air through the stack 10 LPs can be dried in 2-3 hours. A video of the equipment in action can be seen at http://www.revirginizersystem.com As to alternatives like wood glue, take care. A skerrick of glue left in a groove is strong enough to rip off a stylus. That said, the VRC will improve the cleaning experience whatever face-mask style of record cleaner you may prefer! Testimonial Revirginizer vs RCM.pdf Edited September 6, 2016 by TubeSoundAudio missing URL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoz Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, TubeSoundAudio said: Our Revirginizer accessory, the Vinyl Record Cleaning (VRC) system is the equipment shown at the beginning of this post. Using Revirginizer with the VRC means you use 10ml per side rather than the 15-20ml recommended on the bottle, so half the cost. Other benefits include being able to treat both sides of the LP at once (the Mark II version) and using our unique Stack Rack drying method, by using a small desk fan to push air through the stack 10 LPs can be dried in 2-3 hours. A video of the equipment in action can be seen at http://www.revirginizersystem.com As to alternatives like wood glue, take care. A skerrick of glue left in a groove is strong enough to rip off a stylus. That said, the VRC will improve the cleaning experience whatever face-mask style of record cleaner you may prefer! Testimonial Revirginizer vs RCM.pdf I sang the praises of Revirginizer on Audiokarma a few months back.....gee those Yanks are a suspicious cynical lot, the amount of negative crap coming back at me was astounding...."you must be part of the company", "wood glue works better" (wtf?), "RCM's are better" (not), "do you have shares?", yada, yada, negative yada, all coming from know it all's who have never even tried the product. It may not have helped that I accused them of prejudice against anything that doesn't have 'Made in USA' written on it, but their resistance to something different to what they're comfortable with was just mind boggling. A few backed me up (most were from Oz), but for every person that liked it, there was about five putting it down without any concrete proof to back up their 'opinion'. In the end, I just gave up. I guess they will all be voting for Trump, such was their arrogance and stupidity........I love Revirginizer because it works better than anything else, as the above testimonial states. PS: One of those stack racks for Revirginizing multiple LP's at the one time would be easy and very cheap to make at home with timber. It doesn't make sense to be spending $145.00 or more for something that could be made for about $10!!! In fact, I will make one......great idea. PPS: Sorry TubeSoundAudio, I just realised you're the one selling the VRC's....It is not my aim to lessen your business, good luck with it. Edited September 6, 2016 by stevoz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 5 hours ago, stevoz said: I sang the praises of Revirginizer on Audiokarma a few months back.....gee those Yanks are a suspicious cynical lot, the amount of negative crap coming back at me was astounding...."you must be part of the company", "wood glue works better" (wtf?), "RCM's are better" (not), "do you have shares?", yada, yada, negative yada, all coming from know it all's who have never even tried the product. It may not have helped that I accused them of prejudice against anything that doesn't have 'Made in USA' written on it, but their resistance to something different to what they're comfortable with was just mind boggling. A few backed me up (most were from Oz), but for every person that liked it, there was about five putting it down without any concrete proof to back up their 'opinion'. In the end, I just gave up. I guess they will all be voting for Trump, such was their arrogance and stupidity........I love Revirginizer because it works better than anything else, as the above testimonial states. PS: One of those stack racks for Revirginizing multiple LP's at the one time would be easy and very cheap to make at home with timber. It doesn't make sense to be spending $145.00 or more for something that could be made for about $10!!! In fact, I will make one......great idea. PPS: Sorry TubeSoundAudio, I just realised you're the one selling the VRC's....It is not my aim to lessen your business, good luck with it. I just checked out the website, there is a testimonial by "DW"! Just to clarify that wasn't me, enough said...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 My experience has been it is a pain to apply and I was just as happy with the result from the RCM that Greg uses. In fact much quicker and far easier to use. I have never tried wood glue and couldn't be bothered. @Hensa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 My experience has been it is a pain to apply and I was just as happy with the result from the RCM that Greg uses. In fact much quicker and far easier to use. I have never tried wood glue and couldn't be bothered. @Hensa Which rcm Peter?Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 26 minutes ago, dwbasement said: Which rcm Peter? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Kuzma RCM noisy but does an excellent job especially using his paint edger as the brush and some fancy cleaning fluid. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kuzma-VINVAC-LP-Record-Vacuum-Cleaning-Machine-IN-230V-/281187584131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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