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Now that the Sonatas are packed up and are heading for a good home..

I had to go get some new friends as it was getting too lonely staring at an empty space.

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Keith: They are the Duos.

The earlier photo was taken from about 15 feet away.

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certainly look the business. very nice mate :-)

I've never heard how the avantgardes sound like. How do they compare to your sonatas?

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Now that the Sonatas are packed up and are heading for a good home..

I had to go get some new friends as it was getting too lonely staring at an empty space.

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Love those Avantgardes, Tax :D Surprised you didn't go for them in Kawasaki Green....:D

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Seriously they look like the culmination of a sensational looking system :)

cheers

2sheds

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Very impressive - love to hear them one day.

Andy,

My suggestion:

Plan A

* Find out where Tax lives

* Check out the location of the local dump

* Bribe the Chief Dump man

* Wait 20 years :)

Plan B

* Visit Tax :D

cheers

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Plan B does sound a bit easier sheds. After hearing Keith W's system I certainly would love to be able to spend more tim in front of serioud horn set ups like this.

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Congratulations! Since you mentioned you were thinking about horns it doesn't suprise me you went down this route.

Are they Duo's or Duo Omegas?

The white finish on the Avantgardes looks amazing and reminds me of the look and the finish of the Sousaphone.

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Did you get a chance to audition your amps with the Duos before you purchased?

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Congratulations! Since you mentioned you were thinking about horns it doesn't suprise me you went down this route.

Are they Duo's or Duo Omegas?

The white finish on the Avantgardes looks amazing and reminds me of the and the finish of the Sousaphone.

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Did you get a chance to audition your amps with the Duos before you purchased?

Thanks Veefy,

NO! I did not get a chance to audition these with my amps.

But I had heard a pair of Duos running with an Audio Note Meishu.

These were paired with Wavacs (which I didn't hear) and Cary 805's which I did hear.

These are the Duos. I suppose I will need to listen to a set of Omegas to see what I MAY be missing. At the moment I am still getting used to them.

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Plan B does sound a bit easier sheds. After hearing Keith W's system I certainly would love to be able to spend more tim in front of serioud horn set ups like this.

Andything,

Plan B is available anytime you are up this part of the coast:)

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Good choice Tax, l have only heard JCR's Trios but l am sure the Duo's are very impressive too. Do you still plan on TAD'ing in the future or is this the destination for now?

Cheers,

mondie

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Love those Avantgardes, Tax :D Surprised you didn't go for them in Kawasaki Green....:D

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Seriously they look like the culmination of a sensational looking system :)

cheers

2sheds

No the Benelli Green is much better than the Kwaka Green:D

But having moved from Blue carpet, Blue Lounge, Blue Curtains a month ago.. I gave Blue Duos a miss and went for the white to keep it neutral

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certainly look the business. very nice mate :-)

I've never heard how the avantgardes sound like. How do they compare to your sonatas?

Tuyen, Aslan, AIA, Andything, 2Sheds, Scuzzi et al,

Thanks Guys.

So far so good..

Compared to the Sonatas....???

Apples and Oranges really.

Bigger soundstage, attack, space, loud 0-100dB in milliseconds.. nearly as fast as the bike:D

I don't think I have got them dialled in right. May have to enlist JCR's help at some stage as he has a lot of AG experience with his Trios. I am sure there also must be some other Duo owners on SNA.

I have done some online reading which has helped, but one thing I noticed is that these speakers have to be dialled into your room, they sound so different from one room to the next and less volume on the active subs offers better integration. So those who want high level shudders may miss out. BTW: I may have to put out an EOI on my REL Storm 111 subwoofer as I may not be needing it anymore as I can connect the HT surround outs directly to the AG subs.

I sat there last night and thought that everyone should listen to some horns at least once in their lives.

Not everyones cup of tea though.

They are not a relaxing type of speaker.. you can't snooze in front of them, not yet for me anyway. may be as I get more acclimatised. Haven't played any orchestral pieces yet.

At 104dB you can hear warts and all. I can hear my crap power line oscillation at idle. But when the music plays you realise that you are able to clearly discern little nuances that you had not deciphered before. These were still there before but now that they are somewhat magnified..you get an sense that Diana Krull moved her head away from the mic. I suppose this sense must be what the pundits call the "thereness" or being "there'

They are around 75Kgs each, but I managed to set them up on my own using the method indicated in the manual.

All in all a whole new level in my personal audio journey.

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Tax,

Welcome to the club! I am sure you will have lots of fun with the horns.

Now, the front end is so important and the amps have to be ultra quiet, the cables and etc need to be looked at again...

Well, if the Duo is so good, maybe the Trio will be at least 33.333...% better with an extra horn...

Normally for a Duo user to upgrade to Trio, the shortest span is 2 weeks, you want to break the record?

I know a pair of Trio is available somewhere...!:)

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Hi Tax, you'll find they are very room location dependent and you'll get great dividends moving them around and experimenting.

They will also need quite a bit of run in time (if brand new). They will settle down nicely with time.

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Tax,

Your setup looks amazing as does JCR33's setup!! I've never heard horn speakers before but they seem to be very popular. If only either of you were in Melbourne, i would love to come for a listen to see what horns are all about!

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Tax,

Welcome to the club! I am sure you will have lots of fun with the horns.

Now, the front end is so important and the amps have to be ultra quiet, the cables and etc need to be looked at again...

Well, if the Duo is so good, maybe the Trio will be at least 33.333...% better with an extra horn...

Normally for a Duo user to upgrade to Trio, the shortest span is 2 weeks, you want to break the record?

I know a pair of Trio is available somewhere...!:)

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Thanks JCR!

Trio is nice, but these things need room to breathe and high ceilings. So while in this house, I think the Duo is optimal

We will talk soon. You need to visit again.

Regards

Tax

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Tax,

Your setup looks amazing as does JCR33's setup!! I've never heard horn speakers before but they seem to be very popular. If only either of you were in Melbourne, i would love to come for a listen to see what horns are all about!

Thanks Hifiman,

You may want to PM KeithW. He has some very nice Acapella Horns. Someday he may have a GTG that you can go to.

If you come up to Sydney, I will be happy to arrange something if you give me some notice.

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Good choice Tax, l have only heard JCR's Trios but l am sure the Duo's are very impressive too. Do you still plan on TAD'ing in the future or is this the destination for now?

Cheers,

mondie

Thanks Mondie,

I was heading in the TAD direction but it became a bit too hard and I got impatient. As you know first hand, you have to find the drivers, then buy them, ship them, buy the horn flares, boxes, crossovers, then tweak them, then match amps etc..

I was also lucky that they have gel'd with my room nodes quite well, so the integration is good, but I will get a second opinion when I have someone over.

BTW: These are not a Sunday afternoon easy listening type of speaker. Two clicks on the preamp is the most I can open up for night time listening.

But all in all, still in my honeymoon period and happy as it has mated well with the audio note amps, no hum etc.

How the TAD's coming along?

Hope everything is falling into place for you.

cheers

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Thanks Mondie,

I was heading in the TAD direction but it became a bit too hard and I got impatient. As you know first hand, you have to find the drivers, then buy them, ship them, buy the horn flares, boxes, crossovers, then tweak them, then match amps etc..

How the TAD's coming along?

l know what you mean and understand why AG appealed. There was no uncertainty or risk in going with something known that you could demonstrate first. The dynamics from a good horn system can be too much for some and l suspect that's what you mean when you say that they are not relaxing. While l can easily fall asleep in front of the TADs at times the music can really grab you, with TT especially the dynamic changes can be startling if its the first time you have heard a particular song on a Horn system.

As for my TAD's, only today have l got my system running again, l am still dialing it in, the room is way to small for such a large speaker but it will have to do for 12 months or more until our new place is finished. The end result will be satisfactoy but far from ideal, l need a room double the volume of what l have so the speakers can really breathe. In good time l guess :P

Cheers,

Mondie

PS When do we get to see a heap of pics?

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G'day Tax,

Well done on the horns, they look great. One thing I will say is they need some serious hours on them to loosen up. I know my horns are still sounding better the more hours they get on them.

Enjoy

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Tax these look fantastic especially the way you have them set up. Love the shocked look on the screen too:eek:!!

How about a shot of the bike in between the Duos to really get blokes like me off:o!

Benellista eh? Has a very nice ring to it:D

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Thanks JCR!

Trio is nice, but these things need room to breathe and high ceilings. So while in this house, I think the Duo is optimal

We will talk soon. You need to visit again.

Regards

Tax

Hi Tax,

Just to prove that Trio can sound great in a small room with low ceiling, I move them to this room and you see, they are OK!:P

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Thanks JCR!

You need to visit again.

Regards

Tax

Oh Tax,

I love to visit you again but.... do you mind if I bring my friends along, they like to test your Duos, see if they sound like live! :P

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Hi JCR,

Hope all is well mate. Did you get to hear the Trio's in that room? l would expect they would sound a little, well, constipated for want of a better description.

Cheers,

mondie

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Hi JCR,

Hope all is well mate. Did you get to hear the Trio's in that room? l would expect they would sound a little, well, constipated for want of a better description.

Cheers,

mondie

Hi Mondie,

Oh yes, it was a bit tight.

But I was busy with other thing, as you can see in the photo, I was helping the owner to look for some laxative...

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......as you can see in the photo, I was helping the owner to look for some laxative...

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In that case, Smithy, I think I will skip the next photo in the series...:P

cheers

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