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Yamaha -- Press Release - NS-5000 -- The New NS-1000M?

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The guys on DIYaudio.com are discussing the design http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/295385-designer-new-yamaha-ns-5000-sharing-thoughts-about-driver-designing.html

 

Magazine interview with Yamaha Japan Chief Engineer Koji Okazaki on the 2 year design decisions (cut and paste it):

 

http://www.avhub.com.au/features/sound-image/yamaha-ns-5000---full-story-interview-429975

 

Edited by Al.M

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33 minutes ago, [email protected]@tSi said:

Anyone go to the Sydney Hifi show last weekend, care to give us their impressions?

 

 

 

Polite.       Looked a million dollars.

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On 09/05/2017 at 0:46 AM, Pops110 said:

Had a quick listen to these today.

Very impressive. Same setup as in the pics Albert posted.

I didn't take any of my own music in but was semi familiar with what was played.

The bass and channel separation and imaging was what really stood out for me. Finish of the cabinets was amazing, but should be expected for 20k speakers.

 

I did then go and listen to Pats new speakers at War audio with Bakoon. :love

 

Cheers Dave 

 

what were these running with pops ?  I notice yamaha seem to demo them with there source and integrated ... as expected ... 

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On 10/02/2017 at 1:42 PM, Al.M said:

I listened to the NS5000 today under reasonable shop conditions with an $8000 Yamaha S3000 integrated amp and played my reference CDs. The amp appeared to be doing a good job of driving the speakers and producing good micro detail, drive and bass. Comparison vs the better sounding of the NS1000 types circa 1980 models and 4 pairs I have owned in the last 20 years.

 

* Treble appeared more extended and silky smooth and sweet, lots of micro detail similar to some of the best hi end Scan Speak and Seas dome tweeters


* Midrange detail and sonic snap about the same, smoother and sweeter, imaging a little better. The berylium dome may have a little more snap


* Bass much better by a subjective factor of about 2-3 times, in terms of quality, extension, texture, palpability, impact etc. It did not fail in any aspect of the perfect bass on my reference CDs. Speakers were listened to with and without rear port foam plug and there will be too much bass unplugged for most average rooms and heavy notes can intrude. Plug in does not substantially reduce extension and reduces overall bass about 30%


* Overall the sound is a lot more complete and full spectrum with no shortcoming in any area, a lot sweeter and musical sound, less fatiguing, tweeter very extended similar to a good ribbon tweeter, massive bass extension and slam, imaging appeared about 20% better given the shop setup, vocals were spectacular in the league of what might be expected among the best in conventional cone/dome box speaker designs available past and present designs. Comparison against the NS1000 in the mid and treble sonic snap, clarity and detail alone it appears similar with perhaps about 10% more so not a huge jump on those aspects alone.


* Build quality, construction and appearance is superlative in terms of a conventional cone/dome box speaker design.

 

My scoring would likely improve about 20% if heard in my home with tube preamps, KT88 tube power amp and Goldmund copy power amp. 

 

IMO my cabinet modified ported and larger enclosure NS1000 heads about 60% in the direction of bass performance towards the NS5000 and influencing the overall sound. Obviously not the same.

 

Well done Yamaha significant improvement on continuing the NS1000 legend.

 

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@:) al

Same setup as this mate.

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thanks pops ! the fit finish and build look impeccable :) hopefully one day get to experience ... not that am a buyer or anything as am happy wiht my lot. but more to appease the curiosity especially since having heard the original incarnations over the years do some nice things ! 

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When I spoke to the WA Morley west coast Hifi shop they said the NS5000 are not stocked by shops, they only sell them via Yamaha direct, so once you place the order it comes direct from Yamaha not the shop and discounting would be more complex. Price quoted months ago was $19999

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I had a good session listening to the NS5000s today at West Coast Hi Fi in Malaga.

I think these have the best and most accurate midrange I have ever heard and I am very fussy about that particular area of performance and have owned and used all sorts of speakers over 35 years in search of that elusive midrange perfection. The rest is also very good and the whole package is seamless , musically engaging and has great imaging.

 They are wonderful and real sounding on vocals and acoustic music.Piano sounds as good as I have heard too.

 

I suspect Yamaha has created a new reference point for midrange quality with these Zylon drivers.

They have had a great recipe for a long time and came very close to greatness with some of their earlier speakers but now with the right ingredients they have baked something really special.

 

I agree with one reviewer who explained that other speakers really just sound like speakers whereas these sound like the real thing.If anyone was going to do that it was probably going to have to be  a very good musical instrument maker like Yamaha .Just a shame it has taken them so long!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Amazing speakers. Most of the other mega buck speakers from B&W, Sonus Faber, Wilson though good etc are often repackaging, reinventing the wheel to produce updates every several years to keep customers interested while Yamaha just produces one very special model every 20-30 yrs that is truely ground breaking yet sticking to its good solid speaker design and lineage - all zylon drivers superior to beryllium, large generous cabinet, unique resonance damping features etc. 

 

Quote from Yamaha design: https://sg.yamaha.com/en/products/contents/audio_visual/ns-5000/technology.html

 

”100% ZYLON® 8 cm (3-1/4”) soft-dome midrange — the JA-08B5

The JA-08B5 8 cm (3-1/4”) soft-dome midrange is made of 100% ZYLON®, molded seamlessly from the diaphragm to the surrund (edge) thanks to our proprietary molding technology. The system design of the NS-5000 began with the crafting of this midrange driver. In order to take full advantage of impressive acoustic velocity and realistic acoustic density that the 100% ZYLON® diaphragm provides, we adopted a dome design — which shortens the distance from the voice coil to the diaphragm to a degree impossible with a cone design, resulting in smaller loss of movement — and we made its diameter 8 cm (3-1/4”), which is the largest feasible size that manufacturing yield allows. The high-pass crossover frequency was set at 750 Hz, optimum for bringing out the very best in this driver.”

 

Additonal intersting reading on lineage:

https://sg.yamaha.com/en/products/contents/audio_visual/ns-5000/history.html

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Heard the Yamaha NS-5000 speaker a few days ago in an excellent sounding room - it' is a superb loudspeaker that exceeds the original NS-1000M in terms of accuracy and musicality. I unreservedly retract my scepticism made in this thread in 2015 about beryllium vs. the new zylon drivers. Mark my words, this speaker will go down in history as another landmark product for Yamaha Corporation.

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