Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted August 16, 2015 Volunteer Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hmm I'm interested in your thoughts (and whether said member may be interested in loaning it to me.....,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suopermanni Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Has anyone tried the Klein DAC on Windows 10? I heard of cases of several USB DACs having driver related issues, causing dropouts and loss of functionality when connected to USB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joz Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Hmm I'm interested in your thoughts (and whether said member may be interested in loaning it to me.....,) I'm wanting to hang onto it for a while longer as I'm just getting aquainted with it. The problem is critical listening time with it, I need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerter Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Will this power supply work with Klein DAC? http://www.musicdirect.com/p-322395-ifi-ipower-outboard-supply.aspx Edited August 21, 2015 by qwerter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Spyne~ Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Will this power supply work with Klein DAC? http://www.musicdirect.com/p-322395-ifi-ipower-outboard-supply.aspx Nope. Klein runs on 9V AC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Anderson Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 So whats the hassle with adding I2S to a dac like this, I'd run it from the I2S off the Raspberry as the USB is crap. Or I'd have to go and buy something like a Wandboard to get better USB. If I2S is much better what not add it or could it be an upgrade or replace an optical or USB output of the dac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gieseler Audio Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hi Keitha, adding I2S inputs would require a redesign of the PCB & new sockets & tooling for the rear panel. If I had a lot of enquires for that I would certainly look into it but to date I have had almost none. I totally agree by far the best way to extract audio from a Rasberry Pi is via I2S. I actually have the new Pi 2 (& 1) at the moment & eventually plan to build DAC/server using it. The idea would be that the Pi would plug directly into my DAC motherboard so it would be a very short direct I2S connection between the Pi & AK4490 DAC chip. The general feeling out there is that type of set-up should sound even better than the current PC/USB/DAC set-up up that is so common. I'm very keen to get this happening but just struggling to find time due to current work load. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misternavi Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hello, any Melbourne based owners willing to have me bring my DAC (iDSD micro) to their place for a comparison (i also bring beer or wine)? or you can come to my place (carnegie) but times are tricky due to kids. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi Clay Is there going to be an option in the future to maybe have 2 x optical and 2 x coax inputs in the unit Cheers Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gieseler Audio Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi Bill, I was not planning that but it certainly sounds like a good idea. I will have to check the board layout & see if there in enough room. regards Clay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi clay Just ads a little more flexibility. The way thinkphs are going, digital media is getting better and better, so the more input options the better Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Spyne~ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi clay Just ads a little more flexibility. The way thinkphs are going, digital media is getting better and better, so the more input options the better Cheers Would require a different input switch, which I assume is coming in the next revision anyway - remote-controlled switching with LED indicator and scrap any physical flipper/knob? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry218 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 looks like you need to bump the price Clay.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Macfarlane Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 looks like you need to bump the price Clay.. Not yet , I haven't saved up enough pennies 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christosd Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 It's been a good 3-4 weeks of listening now and have to say I like it. I have been using all three input types exclusively driven by my SBT. I'm finding the coax has by far the most live presentation, more spatial resolution and more accurate location of high frequency sources such as cymbals. Vocal sounds better with the usb input and is more pallettable but with the Duntechs I have become a sound stage Nazi. Has anyone improved or played with the USB output of an EDO SBT going into the Klein or do I need a decent pc to get the most out of it. I already have a linear supply for the SBT but is there anything to be gained from providing better usb power in this context? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt200sr Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) I have found the usb input to be a fair way ahead of the spdif on my system. I came across the integer setting on jriver last night... didn't even know jriver catered for integer but gave it a whirl and not sure it was working as the output was still reporting 32 bit under audio path. Is the Armaro usb input compatible with integer? Great DAC by the way been a few weeks now and still fiddling around with settings. I think i prefer the relaxed presentation of both filter switches down. Edited September 7, 2015 by matt200sr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legselevens Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Is it possible for any owners to describe whether this is a "neutral" dac or is it leaning towards "analytical" or "musical" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Spyne~ Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Let's be honest, those words are meaningless unless they come from your own experience and are your opinion, because what I consider "musical" you might think is "lean" or "analytical, or conversely "dull" or "dark". Personally, I think the Klein is transparent, accurate and quite musical....but it all depends on the system around it whether we have similar subjective interpretations of audio. Basically, take everyone's opinion with a grain of salt until you can hear a Klein for yourself against a known reference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legselevens Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks spyne but I was hoping it wouldn't go there. It's only a dac after all, not a cure for cancer so no need for us to be too "analytical" in this hobby. Anyway it's not a perfect world so it helps give an idea if several users have an opinion and/or details of their system in case they are familiar to others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 + 1 with Spyne. I have listened to horrifically expensive dacs over the years and found them ordinary Well I consider them ordinary. It's all about what suits your personal listening tastes. I can say that the Klein is a very easy DAC to listen to, and even my wife, who doesn't pay much attention to what I do with the gear, immediately noticed what she considered a nice change to the music. And for the outlay this DAC for me is exceptional I'm now using a SE version of the Klein and loving it. Not really burnt in as yet, but I'll post my opinions soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legselevens Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I know there are so many variables but you have to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Yes there are I suppose I can help a little by saying, that the Klein being easy to listen to, is a way of saying its neutral to the source. Making the replaying of music as its recorded and how I think the artist wanted us to listen to it. It does have some filters that can Ce adjusted to suite your listening taste also It also extracts an amazing amount of detail from the recording It's a very small investment to get such pleasure out of our hobby And let's be honest, Clays stuff resells very easily, so even if you don't like it as much as I do, you can sell and maybe loose a few dollars 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legselevens Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks Bill. I am interested in another dac atm but I definitely want to hear the Klein hence my interest here. But I can't be bothered spending money and possibly losing some on an unheard dac when there are so many good dacs available. I'm in no rush so it's always good to read the reports as they come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhobba Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Is it possible for any owners to describe whether this is a "neutral" dac or is it leaning towards "analytical" or "musical" ? I would say it treads a middle road - not euphonically musical like the Killer nor overly analytical (some say cold) like a MSB. The DAC its most like IMHO is the latest incarnation of the Direct Stream which also treads a middle course. The DS to my ears is just a bit darker, richer and slightly more revealing of detail. Thanks Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I agree Legseleven. If I would have known sooner I would have sent you down my standard Klein for you to audition. But was snapped up by a mate already Bugger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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