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i cant argue with any of that. I still think theres a point of diminishing returns with computer psu, but theres no doubt my super duper pc is more "organic" sounding than a laptop.

Agree on the diminishing returns but I think it is at some point after a linear PSU.

BTW, a software player that sounds good on my setup has proven not to be the case on others. @@Chanh and I were debating the merits of different software and I only understood his point of view when I listened to his system. I thought of your experience with Antipodes because the software being used was the same - Vortexbox.

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Agree on the diminishing returns but I think it is at some point after a linear PSU.

BTW, a software player that sounds good on my setup has proven not to be the case on others. @@Chanh and I were debating the merits of different software and I only understood his point of view when I listened to his system. I thought of your experience with Antipodes because the software being used was the same - Vortexbox.

Liked I always said, Tasso! You are embarking on a journey goes against the "laws of diminishing return". Strangely enough from a proficient/well regarded economic planner. :D

For the record, my setup performed poorly with Squeezelite/LMS combo. I experienced many iterations previously with mind puzzling to this less than satisfactory sq. I tried PiCoreplayer, Dalphile, and personally tailored the Squeezelite kernel on BBB too, all it seems a waste of time and did not pursuit any further. The sound seems bloated, lack of focus/precision, too diffuse, and importantly poor timing. With MPD, my setup sings very nicely. I like pin-sharp focus, great separation, noticeable depth and a 3D sound imaging overall. I conveyed the findings to Tasso while we were experiencing with his Server at his setup. Tasso found it hard to accept as Squeezelite performs at a satisfactory level under his setup. Well.., both of his Servers were here, only than he get the message and appreciated my version of the event! :D

Clearly, setup synergy is quiet applicable here! One man trash, the other man treasure. :)

After listening to his progression throughout, it has inspired me to built one. So here is my build, a dual setup in one box. The total cost so far is under $1k. A Banana Pro complete self efficiently operates with its own AP, and one with Atom N270 (a similar to Antiphodes). All will be powered by my mod linear PS with 4TB 3.5" HDD music library. This will be my ultimate server for any gtg! :)

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Agree on the diminishing returns but I think it is at some point after a linear PSU.

BTW, a software player that sounds good on my setup has proven not to be the case on others. @@Chanh and I were debating the merits of different software and I only understood his point of view when I listened to his system. I thought of your experience with Antipodes because the software being used was the same - Vortexbox.

 

You could be right, I didnt like Vortexbox's clunkiness and stopped using it 4 years ago! 

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When people talk about a server, I always imagine a NAS where the music is stored, or a DLNA server which streams content into TV's, radios, and the likes. I'm guessing this is more a music dedicated HTPC build, or I have to get used to the jargon. I do have a dedicated server where I store and stream data, but it's hidden in the bowels of my office room.

 

I just received a 2010 Dell laptop, i5 with a few gigs RAM on it. I'll change the HDD into an SSD and install Xubuntu 14 with all the goodies, MPD, Kodi (XBMC), but I'll run it for the time being through the integrated audio outputs (please don't throw anything at me!). I'll upgrade later, say Xmas time to the Marantz HD-DAC using the USB output.

 

I'm always curious about the use of a linear PSU as opposed to the standard SMPS. I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but don't PC's have switched power supplies internally anyways? Somehow they must generate the 3.3V, 5V and 12V for distribution.

 

All in all, a dedicated PC in that case looks heaps better, I'll have to hide the laptop somewhere. Luckily there are ways to control it with the phones or remote keyboards.

 

Cheers,

 

Alberto

 

Some audiophiles have linear PS with individual outputs for powering MB, SSD, and USB card. That way you basically avoid most of the internal electrical noise issues.

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Additional note: SOtM has now come out with an external version of their USB card in a case. So you can use it with any computer (even one without a slot), even a MAC.

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Additional note: SOtM has now come out with an external version of their USB card in a case. So you can use it with any computer (even one without a slot), even a MAC.

Got a link? I'm not sure which one it is.. :P

Apple has thunderbolt which allows people to run their PCI-e cards externally... Wish there's a commercial solution available for the PC world...

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A Banana Pro complete self efficiently operates with its own AP,

 

Never heard of this until now. It's an 'evolution' of the Raspberry Pi concept? Interesting.

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Never heard of this until now. It's an 'evolution' of the Raspberry Pi concept? Interesting.

Banana Pi is a superior platform to Raspberry Pi for audio, R Pi has Lan and USB sharing the same bus which is a bit too much considering USB will be used for both input and output . Banana Pi has Sata input for HDD, more memory and faster processor

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On the subject of power supply, I have progressed with the tweak powersupply for the Banana Pro Server. So far thumb up, the sound just so lovely. I thought with choke input filter would slowdown the sound and compromises dynamics, that didn't happen but rather very engaging. Look forward to put it to real test against Tasso owned Paul Pang power supply and HD-Plex. ;)

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The PPA card contains its own battery for the clock - that's the big lump you can see. I also have SOTM cards as well, each had its merits.

PPA use an OCXO clock in their latest V4 USB card and also have used them for the motherboard clock.

That is great but ocxo is not ocxo i have tried many with zenelectro including different power supply's enjoy your journey i have .........................

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On the subject of power supply, I have progressed with the tweak powersupply for the Banana Pro Server. So far thumb up, the sound just so lovely. I thought with choke input filter would slowdown the sound and compromises dynamics, that didn't happen but rather very engaging. Look forward to put it to real test against Tasso owned Paul Pang power supply and HD-Plex. ;)

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get rid of the fuse that is a choke  ;)

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The fuse was bypassed. Only there for deco, Mario. ;)

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After listening to his progression throughout, it has inspired me to built one. So here is my build, a dual setup in one box. The total cost so far is under $1k. A Banana Pro complete self efficiently operates with its own AP, and one with Atom N270 (a similar to Antiphodes). All will be powered by my mod linear PS with 4TB 3.5" HDD music library. This will be my ultimate server for any gtg! :)

 

Please forgive my ignorance, why the both Banana Pro AND the atom boards?

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