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Not buying grog certainly frees up quite a bit of money that can be put to musically productive purchases :)

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darren sounds like your setting aside good amount of time for exercise…but perhaps wrong sort of exercise…or just eating more…both are commonly what tends to balance off any increased effort I tend to put in..ie exercise more and then tend to find myself just wolfing down more ! :D or just doing exercise but not really anything really getting the heart going. e.g. can walk 7 km but if its just a stroll probably not going to do much vs a brisk walk :) I've found the same with bike riding. can do it and doesn't have much of a dent if anything …just depending on pace.

 

I've lost a few since quitting my job before christmas..given me more time to get some exercise and also keeping closer look at my diet…still a bit of my goal though. I used to be well over the 100kg. ripped back to about 92-3 till I got my last job and it just stayed there ! intact went a bit up…but managed tp pull back finally…but trying desperately to bring under 85kg and will work n driving under that when get there :)

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Yes, all valid points Al and did come to a point where the walking wasn't getting my heart rate up.

Now, if am not sweaty, I walk faster and jog in between. If you have ever been unfortunate enough to see me running, you would be in no doubt that my heart rate is certainly up, haha!!

I will then have a good brekky (is good for you I believe, gets the metabolism up) and then not much more for the rest of the day.

I tell a fib, I sometimes have a bad habit of eating late at night, (bikkies and milk etc) when on here or relaxing watching telly etc. Need to stop that immediately.

Will be interesting to see how much drops off simply from not drinking beer though.

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Forget breakfast. The argument that this is "the most important meal of the day" is utter bullshit and a myth perpetuated by cereal companies to make you buy their sugar-laden high-GI crap.

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 I sometimes have a bad habit of eating late at night, (bikkies and milk etc) when on here or relaxing watching telly etc. Need to stop that immediately.

 

 

This is my Golden Rule and one which helped me enormously.

I would routinely eat late at night while watching football or movies, or even while reading and doing this effectively means you are going to bed with a lot of un digested food inside you. When you eat is just as important as what you eat and it is absolutely critical that you don't eat after about 8PM, especially carbs with fat.

 

Stuff like refined white carbs ( bread and baguettes and the like ) with deli meats and cheese,which make for perfect football watching snacks, are just a disaster pretty much anytime, but at night they are diabolical for anyone prone to weight gain.

 

Actually, refined white carbs like white rice ,white bread, pasta, all manner of bread rolls like  foccacia etc are a no -go zone for anyone wanting to lose weight and this was the stuff that I craved most and still miss most, but I have vowed never, ever to gain the weight again so they are now pretty much banished in favour of a lot fruit and veg, which I now enjoy and actually crave.

 

I was told by a guy who was an ex Navy boot camp instructor that weight loss is 90% in the kitchen and only 10% on the track or in the gym and he wasn't wrong

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when I did run for kids rob de costello suggestion was a cup of tea and a couple of toasts and jam before running the longest distance…ever since then my breakfasts have been very light one toast cup of tea for a normal day. or a tiny bit of muesli milk. anymore seems too much /filling. I tend to graze now days during the day which I don't know if is a good or bad thing :D and probably only one main meal rather than two I used to have.

 

still its the treats and splurges I have to worry about :D

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This is a really good thread and most interesting to read of everyone's experiences.

My Ex suffered from depression and she used to do a lot of what she called "Comfort Eating". I always wondered whether that was a "fair call" or just a lame cop out. In her case Food , Alcohol and Depression was a pretty dire combination which led to her basically having a lifelong "Battle of the Bulge".

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Inspiring stuff.

Good luck Darren.

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Forget breakfast. The argument that this is "the most important meal of the day" is utter bullshit and a myth perpetuated by cereal companies to make you buy their sugar-laden high-GI crap.

 

this! ^^

 

give this a try: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/02/05/why-restricting-your-eating-time-period-to-8-hours-will-transform-your-health-fitness/

 

also you might find something like this a good reset/kick-start: http://www.doctoroz.com/article/dr-ozs-3-day-detox-cleanse-one-sheet

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Good luck.

For other reasons i decided to do a full year without grog (2013).

Although sometimes awkward and annoying but for most of the times not a problem.

It takes some adjustments in the beginning but after that you should be fine.

Currently I'm drinking again but very limited about 1 weekend a month.

And im looking at another 6 months off as my partner lost her licence so I'm on driving duties.

And i have a zero alcohol policy when it comes to driving.

So i know what you are up against.

Have fun..

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I'll just give a huge 'blanket-like' to all of those comments, how very nice of you all and the comments are all interesting and encouraging.

Exercise- yes of course, apologies as I did not mention that I have lifted weights since I was 16, gave up gym at the end of last year as I was pretty much over it and started walking.

I walk 7.5km's most week mornings unless I wake exhausted or it is pississtently raining. Even this does not seem to help control my weight. I should have mentioned this in the first post, so, thanks for the suggestions.

 

 

Onya, Darren.

Can I just say that I also walked the same distance, five days a week. The weight only came off when I increased the pace and eventually started running. The result was a whole new wardrobe two years ago as my old clothes were too big. I haven't looked back and really feel it when I have to miss my morning run. Looking forward again this year to the City to Surf and the Run for a Reason.

 

BTW, I admire the way that you have made your goal public on here.  :thumb:

 

P.S. I am not discounting Rantan's great achievements through walking, just adding my own experience.

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Good work Darren,

Your aware of some of my relationship issues, most of it is down to the grog, and telling porky pies about drinking, buying hifi gear etc.

I've been doing my best to not drink since sept last year.

Went through Christmas and new years no problems but have been sneaking a few lately. Made nearly 4 months, I hate that I couldn't keep going.

I was 104 kg Christmas 2013 down to 88 kg now. Mostly due to giving up the grog, also eating habits, used to eat really badly when I was drinking. I do run, walking I have found does very litt for weight loss. I average 18km a day at work.

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Onya, Darren.

Can I just say that I also walked the same distance, five days a week. The weight only came off when I increased the pace and eventually started running. The result was a whole new wardrobe two years ago as my old clothes were too big. I haven't looked back and really feel it when I have to miss my morning run. Looking forward again this year to the City to Surf and the Run for a Reason.

BTW, I admire the way that you have made your goal public on here. :thumb:

P.S. I am not discounting Rantan's great achievements through walking, just adding my own experience.

Hey Wolster

I'm gearing up for the joondalup half marathon, then going to try to back it up 2 weeks later for the run for a reason half. Should be able to do it, hopefully .

What distance are you doing, I will keep my eye out for you. The bloody tunnel is s killer, no breeze way hot and stuffy.

Cheers Dave.

If you need a chat give me a call, sorry I haven't pm d you earlier, I appreciate your thinking bout me.

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I agree that the whole BMI thing is really flawed and even my doctor agrees. At 75KG I am still supposedly 6-8KGs over weight and I tells ya if I get to that I will be almost invisible :)

 

My company sent me for a '360 medical' as its known by the clinic selling it. The medical took close enough to 4hrs and was so thorough I thought I would never get out of there. I have always been heavy set and my weight has crept up to now be 91-92kg (174cm) so my BMI was around 30 (obese!) but the doc used some fancy machines to measure my body fat percentage. The result was 20.5% when normal is 20%, so really what does BMI tell you  :confused:  I reckon BMI is a misleading simpleton measure that has gained way too much exposure in the modern media where it is simple to apply and tells you little except potentially giving false reassurance to many.

 

The day I turned 40 in 2009 an invisible switch flicked in my head and ever since I have done 2 hrs hard cardio a week on an E.Bike and walked on average 40km. The drive to stick with this regime is natural and ingrained, so much so that when I cannot due to illness/weather I feel irritable. My resting heart rate is in the high 40's and I feel bullet proof, my fitness is great. Just this morning I went hillwalking with my son for an hour, a bonus of living around here is that most walking is done on hills which I love. The medical did find I have high BP though so I will probably end up on meds as a review of my diet and exercise would indicate its in the genes somewhat. I can live with that as I have a lot of good health traits in my genes too (no history of cancer or heart problems) and old age.

 

Grog has never been a problem for me, I love a few drinks with mates or Friday night beers after a week of graft. I never ever drink during the week ever.

 

Good luck Darren, we are the same age :thumb:

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Onya, Darren.

Can I just say that I also walked the same distance, five days a week. The weight only came off when I increased the pace and eventually started running. The result was a whole new wardrobe two years ago as my old clothes were too big. I haven't looked back and really feel it when I have to miss my morning run. Looking forward again this year to the City to Surf and the Run for a Reason.

 

BTW, I admire the way that you have made your goal public on here.  :thumb:

 

P.S. I am not discounting Rantan's great achievements through walking, just adding my own experience.

 

I used to like running but the ligaments in my knees don't.

Been 25 years since I've run more than a kilometre.

I can see how people get addicted to it as it becomes more than exercise after a while.

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Thanks for all the comments and interesting advice/links, shall have a good read. The 'restrict eating to 8 hours' was interesting.

I am sure walking is better than staying in bed but yeah, the body quickly gets used to it and you have to start running, haha.

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You don't have to run - it's all about getting you heart rate up (safely) - find some hills and walk those at a brisk pace - if you have stairs at work use them etc etc

I love running but have an injury which means I'm off running for a while - the bike is now back :-)

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Good stuff guys.

I have a feeling that a lot of people here think I'm half pissed most of the time :lol:

Which isn't true.

Well, my afternoon posts may be somewhat under the influence, but I'm not much different on or off the beers.

Yeah, the big 40 changes things, the waist starts to grow a bit.

At almost 6ft3 I hover around 95-97Kg.

Wanna get down to 90 but it seems difficult.

Been eating a lot more healty, but the beers are the problem, especially during the hotter months in QLD.

Once I have the first one there's no stopping, unfortunately.

Some weeks I'll go through 3 cartons of stubbies which is too much.

:huh:

I have no problem functioning normally after 6-8 stubbies which is probably a sign of a problem in itself...

Something needs to be done, and my problem is, and always has been, if I have it at home, I'll eat/drink/smoke it until it's gone and then go get some more.

[EDIT]

Not in the sense of finish EVERYTHING, more like "can't have beer in the fridge and not have a couple, 6 or 8"

Admitting there's a problem is always the first step though, hey.

Going completely dry is probably not an option but trying to cut down is on the cards for sure.

I drink cause I enjoy it, not to "get me through the day" however, which is a bit different.

Don't drink spirits much anymore, mostly beer and the odd whisky here and there.

All the best Darren and everyone else, and good luck.

:)

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Where do I sign up?

As a guy who's basically fighting similar battles in the same age/height/weight division (44 (45 in a few weeks), 1.8mtr, 95kg) as you @@Darren69 it is empowering to see someone willing to start this type of journey with the step you have taken, by putting it all out on the SNA table. I know guys always say this place is a (mostly) freindly and generous community here but this thread just shows a whole lot more than that. A depth of compassion, comradery and recognition of their own issues has brought some amazing reading to my morning today.

I like all the other guys here wish you the absolute best with your life change. Please do report back as you see the improvements you're aiming for, but also don't feel you can't report back if things don't seem to be going so well at any point, as you will obviously get an abundant supply of support here from the SNA fraternity to help you get back up on the horse.

Good luck mate.

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Forget breakfast. The argument that this is "the most important meal of the day" is utter bullshit and a myth perpetuated by cereal companies to make you buy their sugar-laden high-GI crap.

 

Agreed. I still have breakfast though, but traditional porridge, not even the fast oats. We have tried to simplify our diet by limiting processed foods and breads, but without being pedantic about it. 

 

I'm going to jump on the "wagon" with you guys, I've been feeling sluggish for a month or so and my regular drinking can't help. I rarely over indulge, but have found my consumption and tolerance have increased, therefore my sleep isn't as restful as it could be as my body working overtime at night to metabolise the grog.

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Brekky- I dont have any sugary cereal.

 

SO, so far it's me, @@Jake  and @@shaky . ;)

 

It startyed last night guys, by the way. :)

 

I shall be reporting everything, good and bad. This isn't a fairytale. :)

 

Also, for now (for me anyhow) it's not about diet or managing depression yadda yadda (though of course they are connected), it's about staying off the grog. Thats the first bridge to cross. Theoretically, good things should follow. Eating an elephant one bite at a time etc...maybe a bad saying for this instance..chortle.

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Brekky- I dont have any sugary cereal.

 

SO, so far it's me, Jakey and Shakey. ;)

 

It startyed last night guys, by the way. :)

 

I shall be reporting everything, good and bad. This isn't a fairytale. :)

and me.

 

I do have 1 light stubbie in the fridge that I will have tonight, just to get rid of the temptation.

 

180cm, 91-92kgs and turning 44 next month. Wanting to get down to 83-85 by June for my nephews wedding but also to be able to keep up with the racing types on my Sunday group ride. I really need to find a goal event to keep me focused on the cycling as well.

 

I'm now tucking into my quinoa, kale, mango and mixed vegie salad for lunch, with some canned tuna sprinkled over the top.

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@@blybo makes four!!

 

No mate, you have to leave the stubbie sitting there. We have started.

 

I have a whole six pack in the cupboard. Thats where they are staying.

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Well I just have big stomach bones thats all!

 

Actually like most around here I am trying to limit grog to social events and staying dry mid week.

But jeez this heat and humidity we've copped doesn't help.

Anyhow I used to run and do triathlons to help my fitness for martial arts.

Anyhow a new hip later (11 years now) I havn't run since.

Also my knees now protest so it seems i should look after them so I can walk ok later into life.

 

I'm a smidge under 6' and hover around 100kgs now.

Oh dear what 20 years and 20 kgs have done to me :(

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I'll pour mine then!

 

No need to make this harder than it needs to be. Just like the bloke who has a pack of cigarettes as motivation... and then smokes them :(

 

It took me several attempts to give up the fags, and I've gone several months without grog plenty of times, I just need this to be a conscious thing for me, without making a big song and dance to my family. It upset me the other day when my 5yo daughter told her sister that daddy loves beer.

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