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nissan is just about giving away the leaf now. still expensive. but you get at zero deposit and zero interest rate. am sure some will take up the offer. its a nice looking car, just expensive still ! 

 

http://www.nissan.com.au/Cars-Vehicles/LEAF/Offers?utm_source=Columbus%20AU&utm_medium=NATIONAL_GENERIC&utm_content=SOCIAL&utm_campaign=2014-decembercloserlook

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At this stage and for reasons of practicality I reckon a Hybrid is still a better bet. I am sure with the passage of time, "all electric" will become more common.

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Takes a whole new meaning in "fill her up". The charging dock must be purchased separately, ya think with this new concept they in included that in the price. Like HC2007 says, the hybrid is still the way to go, 170km is for yummy mummies taking the kids for school. :D

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At this stage and for reasons of practicality I reckon a Hybrid is still a better bet. I am sure with the passage of time, "all electric" will become more common.

 

IMO, the GM Volt and the Mitsubishi PHEV are the two standouts ATM. Both make the most sense for anyone who ventures away from a power point, but does lots of city kms. Of the two, the Volt looks like very poor value for money. For my part, as a mostly city driver, I would fill the fuel tank once or twice PA using either vehicle and, with a garage roof loaded with PV cells, could, conceivably pay nothing for electricity. Running costs should prove to be extremely low.

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IMO, the GM Volt, the Mitsubishi PHEV are the two standouts ATM. Both make the most sense for anyone who ventures away from a power point, but does lots of city kms. Of the two, the Volt looks like very poor value for money. For my part, as a mostly city driver, I would fill the fuel tank once or twice PA and, with a garage roof loaded with PV cells, could, conceivably pay nothing for electricity. Running costs should prove to be extremely low.

 

not sure on the mitsubishi, but the volt too has very poor perceived value. I've posted before where at a holden dealer they had one there (only one on the lot) and they were happy to consider any offer on. said managers special and must go ! this was a large deer ship too.

 

good to see nissan going on the front foot to improve the value equation. whats at their disadvantage is volume though, with such small volumes of them selling I can imagine getting them to meet ADRs and all the costs to develop them for "australian conditions" probably not helping the equation.

 

most of the companies though still seem to be going hybrid rather than pure electric. wonder what will take to change that scenario.

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http://myelectriccar.com.au

 

interesting website that one. 

 

one area that seems to be going along in the back ground is electric conversions. when I visited my local epson service centre a couple of years back they were already doing conversions of little hatchbacks with electric motors. they had one on the show room floor and videos showing in operation...

 

http://electronflow.com.au

 

theres many others too, a quick google will show many doing this kind of thing around australia

 

http://zeva.com.au/Projects/RX7/

 

RX7_big.jpg

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Nissan apparently over-estimated the demand for the Leaf here and all the models for sale are 2011 Leafs as they won't import more until the old stock has sold. There's apparently a new leaf coming with a claimed 250km range but no idea of a timeline for it.

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most of the companies though still seem to be going hybrid rather than pure electric. wonder what will take to change that scenario.

 

Battery capacity and charging facilities, 160Km out of a tank is not good even for a little car.  Where are the charging facilities in the carparks? The only charging facility for the Volt is in Port Melbourne outside Holdens HQ.    Hybrids will still be around for a while.

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Nissan apparently over-estimated the demand for the Leaf here and all the models for sale are 2011 Leafs as they won't import more until the old stock has sold. There's apparently a new leaf coming with a claimed 250km range but no idea of a timeline for it.

 

ouch, i wonder how many prospective buyers will realise this. as people know car resale with dealers and wholesale is dependant on compliance (build date) rather than date registered. resale will take a big hit just buying what is effectively a 3-4 year old car. once the 2015 leaf launches, resale would plummet even further ! can imagine why nissan are deals on these !

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Battery capacity and charging facilities, 160Km out of a tank is not good even for a little car.  Where are the charging facilities in the carparks? The only charging facility for the Volt is in Port Melbourne outside Holdens HQ.    Hybrids will still be around for a while.

 

true I haven't seen charging stations around at all. not like san fran quite some years ago where even ferry stations had charging points. but then san fran is electric car and hybrid car central ! 

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one thing I notice, reading profs thread on the tesla. is they are installing charging stations which is good. but I do hope charging stations are generic. i.e. will do any electric car. otherwise this could be like the smarphone debacle where governments can't get them to standardise. meaning countless chargers and cables get thrown away by people when they update/change phones, plus multiple chargers in a hoese hold of mixed brands. and in the electric car situation would mean duplication of charging points around the country from each brand unless their receptacles and charging needs are compatible. could be a lot of wasted cost and infrastructure.

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Infrastructure for EVs is very very poor here. It'll be interesting to see which standard wins out here, mostly we have Type 1 or 2 low powered chargers here with European connectors, Tesla use their own proprietary connectors and much higher power (>100A ) chargers. The fact that they are free use for Tesla owners may limit the incentive to install compatible commercial chargers that are pay for use.

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Infrastructure for EVs is very very poor here. It'll be interesting to see which standard wins out here, mostly we have Type 1 or 2 low powered chargers here with European connectors, Tesla use their own proprietary connectors and much higher power (>100A ) chargers. The fact that they are free use for Tesla owners may limit the incentive to install compatible commercial chargers that are pay for use.

 

pity on the proprietary connectors they're definitely following the apple model. one way might have been for instance to use credit cards as authorisation for charges…if you are a tesla owner you get charged nothing, anyone else gets charged the requisite amount, i.e. only the charge you take. we could see electric charging points popping up in car parks everywhere…giving car park owners revenue and incentive to fit charging points and slowly replacing and taking revenue away from petrol stations… (though coles and WW would probably do their best to stop that ! ) though never know if they're smart enough you might see the coles little red electric car and little red electric charger pop up ! :D 

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Tesl are definitely following the Apple model although to their credit they have opened up their patents to encourage use of their charging technology. The problem with the existing Chargepoint chargers is that they recharge too slowly for cars like a Tesla, it's fine for small battery capacity cars like a Leaf but a Tesla would take all day to recharge at one, hence the high power Tesla superchargers that will totally recharge an 85kWhr battery in an hour. In real life of course a full charge will be much quicker as a battery will rarely be totally discharged.

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nissan is just about giving away the leaf now. still expensive. but you get at zero deposit and zero interest rate. am sure some will take up the offer. its a nice looking car, just expensive still ! 

 

http://www.nissan.com.au/Cars-Vehicles/LEAF/Offers?utm_source=Columbus%20AU&utm_medium=NATIONAL_GENERIC&utm_content=SOCIAL&utm_campaign=2014-decembercloserlook

That's a zero comparison rate. Beware!

 

https://www.carloans.com.au/guides/0-zero-percent-car-loans-the-truth/

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true its probably the same as any other finance offers from the likes of box movers, where the penalty is no negotiation on price. i.e. you prob pay 10% more for the car which covers the finance cost as in the example in the link ! .

 

I suppose it makes it an easy commitment initially for people buying in but you pay longer term.

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