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The industry supported by Standards Australia have launched a website that has some very pertinent information for people in the industry, consumers and particualrly it has implications for DIY'ers and worth a read.

 

The particular aspects relating to DIY would concern where utilising 3rd party power supplies, USB powered devices, USB power supplies, 230V AC related equipment etc.

To quote Monkeyboi (Alan) whom suggested this sticky, this website and links are

 

"essential reading for all those involved in DIY that encompasses the building or modifying of mains powered devices.  Many DIY kits involve building even pre-assembled power supplies, use plug packs or operate from typical USB 5 volt adapters."

 

With a recent fatality

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/67453-warning-on-usb-chargers

 

it is come clear it is very much case of buyer beware. But also the ramifications go further if you actually DIY/make something and sell it on...keep in mind you are then the manufacturer and its upto you to ensure it complies ...

 

the industry supported by standards australia has a website "Does it comply" and is here to try and help...

 

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au

 

there is a section to help identify conforming product

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au/what_should_you_do/identifying_compliant_product

 

and there is a webform to report to the electrical regulator a non compliant item

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au/what_should_you_do/report-non-compliant-product

 

also sections on who is liable, whether a contractor, supplier or wholesaler

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au/who_is_liable/wholesalers_suppliers

 

oh and incase you wondered since july last year if you actually grey import something it is your responsiblity to make sure it is compliant...and yep as an individual you will also be liable if you resell the item. the fines for individuals are quite significant as are the criminal sentences for selling non compliant product.

 

anyways I do hope this is of some help, the work the industry is doing here to help is invaluable and if even just saves one injury or fatality its well worth it ! 

 

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What can and can't do around the house when comes to electricity,

 

http://news.domain.com.au/domain/diy/what-not-to-diy-with-plumbing-and-electrical-20120619-20ld9.html

 

*** basically beyond changing a light bulb…forget about it … get an electrician for anything related to mains electricity as it can kill you ! ***

 

ps great link here from DVP

 

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/79823-inside-an-apple-charger/

 

shows the difference between a cheap counterfeit and an apple charger ! and why he cheap non compliant chargers is a potential accident waiting to happen !  the worrying thing which doesn't help is the counterfeit is complete rip off externally so you are none the wiser. Probably only re enforces reason to buy from reputable sources this kind of thing.

 

Stereonet article - Does your Power cable comply,

http://www.stereo.net.au/news/does-your-power-cord-comply

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A rule worth remembering, if you selling a piece of mains powered equipment to ANYBODY, once you've demonstrated the the item is working, cut the mains plug off before you hand it over. It is then the buyers responsibility to have a suitably qualified and certified person to fit a new plug and then the responsiblity for the safety of the product falls on that person. It is important you cut the cord outer insulation and all and not remove the plug leaving bare wire ends. keep the severed plug and cord, you may need it as evidence if things go badly.

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Interesting link in the http://www.doesitcomply.com.au/article/dial-the-source-on-emc-compliance about LED downights effecting Wifi and other equipment.

 

I am planning to use them in a theatre room soon.

Anyone have any problems at all with LED lighting? What about dimmers for them?

Most LED downlights are powered by a switched mode supply. it is the RF interference from the supply that can cause problems with WIFI.  I don't kwow what the standard is now, but when I building gear for the US long ago, if it had a clock running at any more than 1400Hz, it required FCC testing. the regs for AU & NZ are alot stricter now and CE is a total nightmare.

 

I always check the website of of the producer to see that the certifications are all in order, UL , CE, FCC etc. If they don't show them I assume they don't have them!

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A rule worth remembering, if you selling a piece of mains powered equipment to ANYBODY, once you've demonstrated the the item is working, cut the mains plug off before you hand it over.

 

Or you could just send it directly to landfill and cut out the (now likely extremely annoyed) middleman.

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Cutting the lead off and keeping it is a good idea, but also bend all three pins so that there is no chance of someone (children etc) accidentally plugging the lead into an outlet and getting a shock off the end of the cord.

 

Note that this plug also has uninsulated pins, another reason to remove the plug.

 

Regards,

 

SS

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All the DIY I built, I built it so its safe for me to use and everyone else.  However saying that, I have never sold a DIY that involves a 240V plug to anyone period.  Once I am done with a project its on the shelf for parts reasignment for future use. 

I have given DIY projects for other family members to use, but I make sure thats its safe for everyone to use as long it is used correctly. 

I also make sure I use all the correct AS or EU standard parts including wiring and plugs, I never use something where an insurance company will refused to come the party especially US style plugs. 

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Most LED downlights are powered by a switched mode supply. it is the RF interference from the supply that can cause problems with WIFI.  I don't kwow what the standard is now, but when I building gear for the US long ago, if it had a clock running at any more than 1400Hz, it required FCC testing. the regs for AU & NZ are alot stricter now and CE is a total nightmare.

 

I always check the website of of the producer to see that the certifications are all in order, UL , CE, FCC etc. If they don't show them I assume they don't have them!

 

I have recently strategically replaced all compact fluros and incandecent to LEDs and have not notice any change in the Wifi performance or TV reception.  The WiFi modem is also close to 5 X Philips 13W LED lights. 

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Or you could just send it directly to landfill and cut out the (now likely extremely annoyed) middleman.

Better to face an annoyed middle man than a Coronial Enquiry followed by Civil Damages Proceedings.

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The industry supported by Standards Australia have launched a website that has some very pertinent information for people in the industry, consumers and particualrly it has implications for DIY'ers and worth a read.

 

The particular aspects relating to DIY would concern where utilising 3rd party power supplies, USB powered devices, USB power supplies, 230V AC related equipment etc.

To quote Monkeyboi (Alan) whom suggested this sticky, this website and links are

 

"essential reading for all those involved in DIY that encompasses the building or modifying of mains powered devices.  Many DIY kits involve building even pre-assembled power supplies, use plug packs or operate from typical USB 5 volt adapters."

 

With a recent fatality

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/67453-warning-on-usb-chargers

 

it is come clear it is very much case of buyer beware. But also the ramifications go further if you actually DIY/make something and sell it on...keep in mind you are then the manufacturer and its upto you to ensure it complies ...

 

the industry supported by standards australia has a website "Does it comply" and is here to try and help...

 

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au

 

there is a section to help identify conforming product

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au/what_should_you_do/identifying_compliant_product

 

and there is a webform to report to the electrical regulator a non compliant item

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au/what_should_you_do/report-non-compliant-product

 

also sections on who is liable, whether a contractor, supplier or wholesaler

http://www.doesitcomply.com.au/who_is_liable/wholesalers_suppliers

 

oh and incase you wondered since july last year if you actually grey import something it is your responsiblity to make sure it is compliant...and yep as an individual you will also be liable if you resell the item. the fines for individuals are quite significant as are the criminal sentences for selling non compliant product.

 

anyways I do hope this is of some help, the work the industry is doing here to help is invaluable and if even just saves one injury or fatality its well worth it ! 

i recommend to DIY builders to have any thing electrical that is built to be test and tag. a test and tag is preformed to asses if the A unit is electrical safe and also to check for leakage to ground . i have a test and tag license so any this i build or repair  is tested for electrical safety witch comply s  with new zealand and Australia   

AS/NZS 3760 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS/NZS_3760

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Cutting the lead off and keeping it is a good idea, but also bend all three pins so that there is no chance of someone (children etc) accidentally plugging the lead into an outlet and getting a shock off the end of the cord.

 

Note that this plug also has uninsulated pins, another reason to remove the plug.

 

Regards,

 

SS

cut the plug off 

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A rule worth remembering, if you selling a piece of mains powered equipment to ANYBODY, once you've demonstrated the the item is working, cut the mains plug off before you hand it over. It is then the buyers responsibility to have a suitably qualified and certified person to fit a new plug and then the responsiblity for the safety of the product falls on that person. It is important you cut the cord outer insulation and all and not remove the plug leaving bare wire ends. keep the severed plug and cord, you may need it as evidence if things go badly.

better still pay the $15 $20 buck have a test and tag done the you can be a happy camper 

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Most LED downlights are powered by a switched mode supply. it is the RF interference from the supply that can cause problems with WIFI.  I don't kwow what the standard is now, but when I building gear for the US long ago, if it had a clock running at any more than 1400Hz, it required FCC testing. the regs for AU & NZ are alot stricter now and CE is a total nightmare.

 

I always check the website of of the producer to see that the certifications are all in order, UL , CE, FCC etc. If they don't show them I assume they don't have them!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS/NZS_3760

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cut the plug off

This IS the cut off plug, which is now potentially lethal by itself due to exposed conductors unless the pins are bent in the manner shown.

Regards,

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better still pay the $15 $20 buck have a test and tag done the you can be a happy camper 

 

 

Would be good to have a few links to some test and tag guys in metro areas that are happy to do domestic work.

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This IS the cut off plug, which is now potentially lethal by itself due to exposed conductors unless the pins are bent in the manner shown.

Or you could throw it in the garbage.  Along with the broken glasses/bottles, rotten food, rusty nails and out of code medicines.  Less effort too.

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