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So due to popular demand (or at least two "likes" to the idea), I'm starting a thread dedicated to the weird, wonderful world of erm, "World Music".  Here we can enjoy the folk/rock/fusion/gumbo that we go and see at Womad and the like.

 

Currently, I've been getting back into a group I saw a Womad a few years back, from the Ukraine:  DakhaBrakha.  It's been hard to get their stuff here, but fortunately, they're now on bandcamp:

 

http://dakhabrakha.bandcamp.com/album/yahudky

 

Lots of tribal rythms, ambient cello and amazing vocal work.  The title track from Yahudky is especially good.

 

My other favourite at the moment is Niyaz's album, "Nine Heavens".  Azam Ali has a beautiful voice.  I like to think of these guys as the Persian answer to Loreena Mckennit - a solid folk background with sensitive use of modern gear.

 

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So due to popular demand (or at least two "likes" to the idea), I'm starting a thread dedicated to the weird, wonderful world of erm, "World Music".  Here we can enjoy the folk/rock/fusion/gumbo that

The hour of separation is my fave. He can be a bit relentlessly virtuosic on his own and benefits from being reined in as part of a larger group of big talents. Joseph Tawadros (Oud) John Abercro

Here are some terrific collaborations/improvisations from musicians from Turkey through to India.   Persian Night Silence Desert - Mohammed Reza Shajrian & Kayhan Kalhor   Persian/Turkish.  

Well done st3ph3nm.I'll join in the fun a bit later Dakha Brakha were my favourite act at Womad 3 years ago.A most enjoyable gig at the Zoo stage.That's one of the great things about Womad.Quite often its these little known artists that blow you away.

There's a lot of us here who love world music so I think this discussion will be well patronised

Cheers.

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Ah, 'world' music, why didn't I think of starting this thread?

 

Some discs I've spun recently:-

 

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Terrific Anglo-Irish band, made an appearance at an earlier Womadelaide quite a few years ago. This was their last album, released in 2005. They disbanded for a while while flute player Sarah Allen had a baby, but I believe they are still doing performances in the UK and Europe. Hope they get back into the recording studio before too long.

 

 

 

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Released in 2006. I picked up a promotional copy of this album at a CD sale. At the time I wasn't familiar with this South African singer/songwriter, but was blown away when I played this. He has a soft, rather melodic voice, but carries a lot of power. I've since managed to get hold of copies of most of his albums, but this is still my favourite of his. If you are looking for a good introduction to Vusi Mahlesela, then this is the album to get. It has an excellent mix of material covering a good range of styles, and is well produced and recorded. There are a host of musicians on this album (unfortunately my copy doesn't have full liner notes), with contributions from Xavier Rudd, Derek Trucks and Dave Matthews. I guess their names are mentioned on the cover for promotional reasons, but their contributions are nicely done, and blend well into the recording.

 

 

 

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Saw these guys at Womadelaide in 2011 (I think). They hail from Inner Mongolia, do throat singing and play traditional instruments. Really enjoyed their performances at Womadelaide, and also like their CD a lot. This might not be to everyone's taste, but I really like them.

 

 

 

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And I just had to mention these guys. Hanggai, from China. They also do throat singing and play some traditional instruments, but they also mix it up with electric guitars so are not a traditional band as such. I was a bit sceptical about them at first, but their performances at Womadelaide were a hoot! They were a lot of fun. I see they are returning to Womadelaide in 2014, so will be looking out for them.

 

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Woohoo! (coincidentally, another great Melbourne gypsy band - Woohoo Revue - but I digress) this thread is looking great already.  My first time at Womad was the year DakhaBrakha and Hanggai played.  Probably my two favourite acts from that year. 

DakhaBrakha was especially surprising.  I loved how it was supposed to be a "sit down" event, but nobody could sit down by the end of their show!

I have an Anda Union track on a Songlines CD, and it's lovely, too. 

 

Thirddrawerdown, I came across Niyaz after hearing them on an episode of True Blood, then discovered Azam Ali's solo stuff.  So kind of backwards to your discovery!  Portals of Grace is superb, but falls somewhere between "classical" and "world" being mainly medieval songs, I suppose.  Damn these pigeon holes, they keep overflowing!

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Yes, Hanggai are not exactly traditional, but they are a lot of fun. I'm not familiar with Yatkha.

Yatkha are a hard/pub rock band with trad elements. They have some free stuff on bandcamp. Kind of an offshoot of Huun Huur Tu, a fully trad band. HHT are highly recommended. Quite powerful haunting music.
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Oh great thread ! love it , my favourite genre :)

 

I have a few discs from Natacha Atlas on order, when they land will post some feedback :)

 

I have a few discs with indian, arabic, african influence really look forward to expanding my collection in this area. Keenly will read posts in this thread 

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Yatkha are a hard/pub rock band with trad elements. They have some free stuff on bandcamp. Kind of an offshoot of Huun Huur Tu, a fully trad band. HHT are highly recommended. Quite powerful haunting music.

 

Speaking of Huun Huur Tu, I also saw them at Womadelaide a few years ago. They certainly are a traditional band, although they have done a number of collaborations with other artists, including the Kronos Quartet.

 

They were the closing act on the final night. It was an excellent performance, and the perfect way to close off the weekend. Here a couple of snippets which appear to be from that performance, which somebdy has posted on youtube.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muc9_ABV6gM

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrICvapiWBY

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A couple on silver disks as my world stuff is mostly on cd.

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Los de abajo. LDA v the lunatics spinning as I type. Love their version of The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum. And there was a mention of Natasha Atlas in a previous post. She features on a track also.

And played earlier today

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Cesaria Evora greatest hits. What a voice.

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I must admit I struggle sometimes in what is World Music and what is good cynical World Marketing.

 

What do you guys classify Ry Cooder and Manuel Galban or his work with Galban's band, Buena Vista Social Club?

BVSC was aimed at audiophiles/phools by being pressed and marketed by Classic Records.

 

PS, nice album this and BVSC :D

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Thanks Viognier for the heads up on Cesaria Evora.

I have sampled some of her music, and agree.. what a great voice she has.

 

I'm playing this album on Spotify, and have just purchased it on ebay.

 

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I must admit I struggle sometimes in what is World Music and what is good cynical World Marketing.

 

What do you guys classify Ry Cooder and Manuel Galban or his work with Galban's band, Buena Vista Social Club?

BVSC was aimed at audiophiles/phools by being pressed and marketed by Classic Records.

 

PS, nice album this and BVSC :D

 

One could easily get cynical about the marketing of 'World' music. Its far too broad a term to try and cover many different types of music. And, yes, there are some cynical marketing exercises. The sort of thing I can't stand is where somebody goes out and samples some indigenous tribal music from somewhere in the world, then goes into the studio and mixes it with electronic keyboards into some sort of dance oriented collage (Deep Forest, anybody?)

 

That aside, there is a lot of great music around, loosely lumped under the 'World' Music tag, and some good, genuine, collaborations too. I say, ignore the marketing and the labelling. Just listen to the various styles of music, and see what you like.

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got a copy of transglobal underground Run devils and demons compilation in the mail today,

 

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good review of this here

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/d9jw

 

can listen to excerpts here,

http://www.allmusic.com/album/run-devils-and-demons-the-best-of-transglobal-underground-mw0001739502

 

its a such a fusion of music, have been following them last 20 years or so have seen them live and they are pretty amazing too, not sure how to describe them but hopefully the excerpts will give a taste :)

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One could easily get cynical about the marketing of 'World' music. Its far too broad a term to try and cover many different types of music. And, yes, there are some cynical marketing exercises. The sort of thing I can't stand is where somebody goes out and samples some indigenous tribal music from somewhere in the world, then goes into the studio and mixes it with electronic keyboards into some sort of dance oriented collage (Deep Forest, anybody?)

 

That aside, there is a lot of great music around, loosely lumped under the 'World' Music tag, and some good, genuine, collaborations too. I say, ignore the marketing and the labelling. Just listen to the various styles of music, and see what you like.

I think that Deep Forest is a great example of how *not* to go about things.  Whilst the music is okay (some of it has dated quickly, but dance influenced stuff is going to do that), the fact that essentially none of the proceeds from sales went back to the musicians they'd recorded (as I understand it) is deplorable.  Contrast that with any of Ry Cooder's collaborations.  Talented musicians have had the chance to be heard in lucrative Western markets and benefit from that exposure, and not only that, the collaborations are producing great music in and of itself.  "Talking Timbuktu" with Cooder and Ali Farka Toure is simply a great blues album, that I often listen to.  The Buena Vista Social club recordings are all sensational - I've got quite a few of them now and listen to them all the time (I'll add them to this thread very soon), and Ry's guitar work on the BVSC stuff is a great and musically sensitive addition.  He's a fine musician.  So in a nutshell, I absolutely agree with you! :)

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I think that Deep Forest is a great example of how *not* to go about things. Whilst the music is okay (some of it has dated quickly, but dance influenced stuff is going to do that), the fact that essentially none of the proceeds from sales went back to the musicians they'd recorded (as I understand it) is deplorable. Contrast that with any of Ry Cooder's collaborations. Talented musicians have had the chance to be heard in lucrative Western markets and benefit from that exposure, and not only that, the collaborations are producing great music in and of itself. "Talking Timbuktu" with Cooder and Ali Farka Toure is simply a great blues album, that I often listen to. The Buena Vista Social club recordings are all sensational - I've got quite a few of them now and listen to them all the time (I'll add them to this thread very soon), and Ry's guitar work on the BVSC stuff is a great and musically sensitive addition. He's a fine musician. So in a nutshell, I absolutely agree with you! :)

Cooder's collaborations are superb. Talking Timbuktu and Mmeeting by a River with VM Bhatt are both great pieces of work.

The world music tag may be embarrassingly daft - a kind of Orientalism for the music lover - but at least we know which racks to go to search, and it does make for a very nice thread.

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Joseph Tawadros is a young local oud virtuoso - only 29 - with a string of great albums already to his credit.

Just bought his latest: CHAMELEONS OF THE WHITE SHADOW which features Bela Fleck.

Loved his work with Jack dejohnette on The Hour of Separation.

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Joseph Tawadros is a young local oud virtuoso - only 29 - with a string of great albums already to his credit.

Just bought his latest: CHAMELEONS OF THE WHITE SHADOW which features Bela Fleck.

Loved his work with Jack dejohnette on The Hour of Separation.

Thanks. Will check this guy out.

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If you're into Arabic inspired jazz two of my favourite musos are Rabih Abou Khalil and Anouar Brahem - just about everything they do is worth listening to.

Khalil is a really playful muso, but if you want hard core Journey to the Centre of an Egg is brilliant

Brahem's The Astounding Eyes Of Rita is his latest album but all his stuff is interesting.

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The great thing about "world" music is the amazing combinations that get thrown up. It can be truly exciting when you come across some sound or combo that is being used in a completely new way. I really like surprises.

 

The trick, as with everything, is how to zero-in on the good stuff. So far this thread is off to a flyer, and we are in excellent company.

 

Onya st3ph3nm for the OP.

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as far as world music goes, I find sbs chill on digital radio as a good way to introduce myself to some new world music.

 

http://www.sbs.com.au/shows/chill/

 

if have a digital radio, check it out, otherwise could also use the stream from the website...just watch your download limits !  :)

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Joseph Tawadros is a young local oud virtuoso - only 29 - with a string of great albums already to his credit.

Just bought his latest: CHAMELEONS OF THE WHITE SHADOW which features Bela Fleck.

Loved his work with Jack dejohnette on The Hour of Separation.

 

He and his brother are amazing.  Saw them at Womadelaide with the Grigoryan brothers in their "Band of Brothers" incarnation.  Joseph is great, but his brother simply stunned me with his virtuosic tamourine work.  Yes, you read that right! :)

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He and his brother are amazing.  Saw them at Womadelaide with the Grigoryan brothers in their "Band of Brothers" incarnation.  Joseph is great, but his brother simply stunned me with his virtuosic tamourine work.  Yes, you read that right! :)

I saw them in castlemaine a couple of years ago - the percussion work was amazing - but not with the grigoryans unfortunately.

From the mid east right through Asia they take percussion very seriously and use a staggering range of instruments.

Makes yer average rock drum solo look a little brutish!

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Sheila Chandra - Moonsung: A Real World Retrospective - 1999 - CD

Mostly a capella with the occasional drone for background ambience. "One of the most beautiful voices on Earth" - Billboard

 

Here's Sheila singing something traditional, this should be familiar to all the Shakti (and also David Helbock) fans...

http://youtu.be/5_N1SWAT6L4

 

 

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One could easily get cynical about the marketing of 'World' music. Its far too broad a term to try and cover many different types of music. And, yes, there are some cynical marketing exercises. The sort of thing I can't stand is where somebody goes out and samples some indigenous tribal music from somewhere in the world, then goes into the studio and mixes it with electronic keyboards into some sort of dance oriented collage (Deep Forest, anybody?)

 

That aside, there is a lot of great music around, loosely lumped under the 'World' Music tag, and some good, genuine, collaborations too. I say, ignore the marketing and the labelling. Just listen to the various styles of music, and see what you like.

I think we have similar ideas on what world music is. Electronica that sample's ethnic music doesn't fit the bill IMHO. So, yes Deep Forest, Banco de Gaia, et al, as much as I like you, you're gonna have to sit this one out! That said, I did come across Sheila Chandra after hearing her track "Ever So Lonely" sampled by a few electronica acts. 

When I think of world music, I think of traditional, ethnic and indigenous music. It can be Celtic, Qawwali, Koori or even cross-cultural! 

Great thread, keep the suggestions coming!

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thats where I would disagree. I'm fine with electronica, samples, deep forest etc. bring it on what ever the form. call it cross cultural, fusion to me good music is good what ever the form, though am sure many will dissagree on what forms good music. as with anything one mans trash anothers treasure :)

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