atra4 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 No i haven't tried that valve. But they do seem similar to the 50's Amperex d-getters. What i like about the Amperex and Gec's is that they project the sound forward of the speakers and have more z-depth. The teles are flatter and tend to outline/spotlight the music. Cool phono. I like the leben rs-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I will try the 2900 one day for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graceman Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 In the nude..... and with its clothes on.. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhouston Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 @Graceman looks good. Any chance to hear it. My place or yours? I'm in Langwarrin with 99db efficient 15" concentric speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graceman Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Not until after January! I run it into NS1000Ms. Oh, and it weighs just shy of 30Kg so carting it around is not really an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 23/11/2017 at 9:23 PM, Rob181 said: Paul...is Canberra too far away...excellent R&M there... Not a trick question...I am a Qlder currently living in Junee (temporarily)... So much of a muchness...Melb Vs Canberra... Just what works best for you... Just for any future needs do you have details or links for Canberra ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenikoy Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 24/07/2017 at 8:36 PM, Guest BobbyD said: Changing over some tubes tonight so thought I would share a pic inside the box...... Where has SETSergio gone? Valve amp and wine threads aren't the same these days. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F18 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 17/12/2017 at 7:34 PM, atra4 said: I used to have a stash of GEC 6as7g. Awesome tubes. I greatly prefer the a2900 over the telefunkens, mullards, 50's amperex and brimar 6060T. If you like the sound stage and transparency of the tele's, think of the GEC's as a Tele but with meat on the bones. It has the tone and body closer to the mullards. I tend to find Tele's sound lean where as the GEC more organic. Bass is much better than 801s. However they tend to be more microphonic. BTW what phono you using? On 17/12/2017 at 8:48 PM, dwbasement said: Yes, Tele is not very good at bass. I think 18ecc is similar to what you said about 2900. Have you tried before? They are all gone now I believe. I use a Leben phono with Duc’s SUT I have over 50 of some of the best 12AT7 and equivalent tubes ever made in existence including many A2900, M8162, TS65's, CV military equivalents, 6060's etc. The best of the Telefunken's are gold pin 1960's ECC801S, no Telefunkens are known for there bass quality and quantity but for there spatial soundstaging depth, uncolored, neutral and balanced realistic sound for vocals and unparalleled detail retrieval, have these in the right applications and position of your phono or amplifier and its an end game changer. The GEC A2900's don't compare in the mentioned sound areas though the A2900's do have more low-end (typical British bass similar to the Mullards). NOS ECC801's fetch over on average $500-800 per matched pair, quads in original boxes mint condition go over $1000. There is also a specially selected version of the normal GEC A2900's and it's the Genalex Gold Monarch A2900's (think Gold Lion series for the KT tubes), from what I know these are selected A2900's but for export (mostly for the US market), lower background noise and very sturdy tubes, go for lots of $ when they do pop up (my opinion not worth anywhere near the asking prices). Some people have mentioned that MO-V/GEC did not make the A2900, these were made by Mullard under specially screened procedures and specifically selected by MO-V/GEC. When we talk about the 6060T tubes which was only ever made by Brimar which was made to compete with the A2900, the early Yellow "T" are the desired ones, very rare and sound just as good as a A2900 in some sound aspects, the later white logo T are average and not as good (but still better than your typical AT7's). TS65, extremely rare I only have 2 of these, gold pins and made by Valvo, used in European telecomms networks and sturdy as hell, sounds better than the A2900 in some areas. Think of the Valvo 6211 but on steroids. M8162, go for the early to mid 50's Mullards as they are favoured by many around the globe touted as having some of the finest mid and bass production. I think a pair or single of these in your phono will sound great or a pair of Valvo 6211's. Cheers, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Great write up mate. I will try the 8162 this afternoon and hear, atm have amperex 6201 on. TS65 is interesting, will see if I can find a pair to try. Tele 801s is great but my speakers need more of it, still use ggem every now and then as it is a very good tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guru Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, enikoy said: Where has SETSergio gone? Valve amp and wine threads aren't the same these days. He took a break from the forum, needed to clear his head from all noise and opinions. He is still enjoying grapes squeezed really hard and has been trying some new stuff with his system so hopefully he might breeze back in one day if he doesn't get eaten by a shark off Cottesloe one day in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhouston Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, F18 said: I have over 50 of some of the best 12AT7 and equivalent tubes ever made in existence including many A2900, M8162, TS65's, CV military equivalents, 6060's etc. The best of the Telefunken's are gold pin 1960's ECC801S, no Telefunkens are known for there bass quality and quantity but for there spatial soundstaging depth, uncolored, neutral and balanced realistic sound for vocals and unparalleled detail retrieval, have these in the right applications and position of your phono or amplifier and its an end game changer. The GEC A2900's don't compare in the mentioned sound areas though the A2900's do have more low-end (typical British bass similar to the Mullards). NOS ECC801's fetch over on average $500-800 per matched pair, quads in original boxes mint condition go over $1000. There is also a specially selected version of the normal GEC A2900's and it's the Genalex Gold Monarch A2900's (think Gold Lion series for the KT tubes), from what I know these are selected A2900's but for export (mostly for the US market), lower background noise and very sturdy tubes, go for lots of $ when they do pop up (my opinion not worth anywhere near the asking prices). Some people have mentioned that MO-V/GEC did not make the A2900, these were made by Mullard under specially screened procedures and specifically selected by MO-V/GEC. When we talk about the 6060T tubes which was only ever made by Brimar which was made to compete with the A2900, the early Yellow "T" are the desired ones, very rare and sound just as good as a A2900 in some sound aspects, the later white logo T are average and not as good (but still better than your typical AT7's). TS65, extremely rare I only have 2 of these, gold pins and made by Valvo, used in European telecomms networks and sturdy as hell, sounds better than the A2900 in some areas. Think of the Valvo 6211 but on steroids. M8162, go for the early to mid 50's Mullards as they are favoured by many around the globe touted as having some of the finest mid and bass production. I think a pair or single of these in your phono will sound great or a pair of Valvo 6211's. Cheers, 50 small tubes. That's a lot of small tubes. Last few DIY 6L6 I used are 12AT7 Psvane "T" series MKII. So impressed I ordered some Psvane 12AU7 "T" series MKIIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F18 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, mwhouston said: 50 small tubes. That's a lot of small tubes. Last few DIY 6L6 I used are 12AT7 Psvane "T" series MKII. So impressed I ordered some Psvane 12AU7 "T" series MKIIs. For the price, the Psvane's are not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremrock Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Can't find a thread on it, but a 52 page one with recent activity seems a good place to start! I'm looking at ordering some new 2A3's and have a set of the Psvane Western Electric replica 101D's for the Consonance linear1 I just got, and I figured, they might be a good premium upgrade/spare set (well to provide me with the oldies as spares anyway), but theres about 15 different prices listed for them all over the place, and i'm always dubious of fake products with this sort of thing (after all It'd be pretty easy to throw a stamp on a $2 unbranded chinese knockoff) So the question is, where is a well-priced, reputable place to buy them from? Are there any actual dealers in Australia? I can't find any, so I figure it doesn't matter too much from there who I buy them from as long as I can be sure i'll be getting the genuine article? Also if anyone has some to sell, i'm not opposed to second hand as long as the price is right and they have their original boxes for postage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Here are the newest additions to my family: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xecuter Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 8:49 PM, Gremrock said: Can't find a thread on it, but a 52 page one with recent activity seems a good place to start! I'm looking at ordering some new 2A3's and have a set of the Psvane Western Electric replica 101D's for the Consonance linear1 I just got, and I figured, they might be a good premium upgrade/spare set (well to provide me with the oldies as spares anyway), but theres about 15 different prices listed for them all over the place, and i'm always dubious of fake products with this sort of thing (after all It'd be pretty easy to throw a stamp on a $2 unbranded chinese knockoff) So the question is, where is a well-priced, reputable place to buy them from? Are there any actual dealers in Australia? I can't find any, so I figure it doesn't matter too much from there who I buy them from as long as I can be sure i'll be getting the genuine article? Also if anyone has some to sell, i'm not opposed to second hand as long as the price is right and they have their original boxes for postage.. So you are looking at ordering 2a3 new stock? I am confused. I have a vast collection of NOS 2a3, I have a little experience with 2a3 EML, KR, EH and Psvane.. It is actually very uncommon to see fake new stock tubes, also fairly rare to see fake NOS, however on ebay they often lie about test scores/matching and if it is truly NOS. If I can help you please feel free to PM me, or keep it here for those interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhouston Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Xecuter said: So you are looking at ordering 2a3 new stock? I am confused. I have a vast collection of NOS 2a3, I have a little experience with 2a3 EML, KR, EH and Psvane.. It is actually very uncommon to see fake new stock tubes, also fairly rare to see fake NOS, however on ebay they often lie about test scores/matching and if it is truly NOS. If I can help you please feel free to PM me, or keep it here for those interested. Yes frustrating when they say tests 100% and on your tester its 80%. A few percent is understandable but not a 20% difference. Fortunately I have had no problems with tubes bought online except for once. I orderd another pair of UX-171A 1920s tubes. I already had two pair but wanted a third for a power amp I have which produces 330mW. One arrived DOA. There was no problem with the seller, I had purchased a number of tubes from him in the last. He replaced the tube and apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhouston Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Here is the 330mW power amp with UX-171A tubes. http://retro-thermionic.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/intermezzo-1920-ux-171-power-amp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, mwhouston said: Yes frustrating when they say tests 100% and on your tester its 80%. A few percent is understandable but not a 20% difference. Fortunately I have had no problems with tubes bought online except for once. Emissions test? In which case the difference doesn't mean much - probably comes down to a difference in the 'standard' setting for that valve type as dictated in the tube tester manual. Cheap tube testers might just have an analog pot that you set approximately only. Some meters were just green yellow or red - probably a fairer indication of their accuracy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xecuter Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Yeh for those of us buying nos fivre, Cunningham, arctarus and avvt 2a3s. I want full test results (ideally tracing as well) before I outlay 1k aud per tube. Also be careful with 'pairs' and 'quads' some sellers think a 10% match emission match is good enough. They don't even consider transconductance. Many amps will not bias such poorly matched valves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob181 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Xecuter said: Yeh for those of us buying nos fivre, Cunningham, arctarus and avvt 2a3s. I want full test results (ideally tracing as well) before I outlay 1k aud per tube. Who supplies that kind of info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xecuter Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Some of the more serious tube sellers will supply. Or I will request tubes be sent for testing to guys I know can test them in USA/Italy/France/Germany I invest in tubes. So I need to be assured I'm recieving a perfect example. Edited February 10, 2018 by Xecuter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob181 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Xecuter said: Some of the more serious tube sellers will supply. Or I will request tubes be sent for testing to guys I know can test them in USA/Italy/France/Germany Thank you for that...very handy to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhouston Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, aussievintage said: Emissions test? In which case the difference doesn't mean much - probably comes down to a difference in the 'standard' setting for that valve type as dictated in the tube tester manual. Cheap tube testers might just have an analog pot that you set approximately only. Some meters were just green yellow or red - probably a fairer indication of their accuracy Yes emissions test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keyse1 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 18/01/2018 at 10:32 AM, enikoy said: Where has SETSergio gone? Valve amp and wine threads aren't the same these days. Was there a response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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