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main problem with the roc is its a 2 door and 4 seater as opposed to a 5 door 5 seater as the merc a250 or golf gti. so yeah stands to reason be less of them about. its more of a niche player. lovely car no buts about it though. no argument there. but it plays in a different space where the megane and like play I reckon :)

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few external shots,         the grill is an absolute thing of beauty and love the big propeller up the front  

thanks guys ! we just came back from a drive in the hills. first chance I got to stretch it legs. its a really nice cruiser. and handles the winding and twisting bits very nicely. I gave it a couple o

so what are these cars like in use ? when talking about ergonomics, practicality, creature comforts economy etc... As far as ergonomics goes, both are similar on the surface, ie both with your typica

What's an oem tail light for the V? I find that there's a noticeable improvement in response times that's borne by external studies as well.

 

 

 

Cars got along with incandescent lighting for over 100 years without issues. LEDs are nice to have but not necessary.

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That is the thing, they are distinctive over here as you don't see that many on the roads and I am in Sydney. I don't see how it is showing it's age either. Still looks pretty fresh to me.

have to agree, even my daughter says, dad, everyone keeps looking at your car..

 

 

The tail light cluster in an age of LED tail lights is a giveaway.

the led tail lights are the last thing i would car about, but aftermarket ones are already out for it, yet i have no desire to get them, even if VW did oem ones, i simply wouldnt bother.

a nice set of wheels, a lowered stance and they look menacing...enough

 

at the end of the day, we all purchase cars for different reasons, some need space some dont care, some love turbo's others v8's

each to their own, as long as it serves its purpose

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Don't get me wrong. The roc is a smart looking car.

But if you are familiar with VW's design language, then it is clear that the current Roc tail lights are at least a generation or two back. The newer ones use a different style and/or LED.

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Don't get me wrong. The roc is a smart looking car. But if you are familiar with VW's design language, then it is clear that the current Roc tail lights are at least a generation or two back. The newer ones use a different style and/or LED. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

cant argue with that, we just got the damn car very late...

i suppose it could have been worse and we missed out like the usa

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So what if the tail lights are one or two generations back? 

 

Do they work? yes. 

Do does the car still look good? yes

 

Newer doesn't always mean better. Look at the latest cars with electrical assisted steering, no manual transmission, no physical handbrakes - just divorces the driver from the driving experience. The lack of LED rear tails is the least of a new car buyer's problems.

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We are talking about the design language and how it's dates the Scirocco.

As for tech, I guess there's something to be said for greener technologies. And if you look at the discussions that Porsche had re the inclusion of the new power steering assistance and DSG on the GT3, it shows that sometimes perhaps we just cling on to the old ways and think they are better but not always necessarily so.

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I don't see how the Rocco is dated in anyway. Don't tell me that if you married a supermodel, after three years of being married to her, you would dump her saying to her "your design language is dated, I need to find a new woman"?

 

Look at the E-type Jag - it is 50 years old but the car (esp the type 1) is just as desirable and great looking today as it was in 1961.

 

If you want to enjoy your drive and be involved in the process of driving, the newer tech does take one away from the experience. Just ask people who have driven cars with both tech. Sure in stop start traffic, DSG has the edge but on a long winding B road - manual transmissions are the go.

 

And an enjoyable drive isn't all about speed either. One can have just as much or more fun in a car that gives one the sensation of speed under the speed limit.

Just watch a few video at Jay Leno's garage on Youtube - esp the one where he tests the reintroduced Morgan three wheeler (1920/30s technology built new today) - he is one of the biggest car collectors in the world - he is always saying that anything that takes you away from the driving experience is a bad thing - a McLaren F1 and a Countach are amongst his collection of cars. 

 

Watch this: 

 

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If you want to enjoy your drive and be involved in the process of driving, the newer tech does take one away from the experience.

 

And an enjoyable drive isn't all about speed either. One can have just as much or more fun in a car that gives one the sensation of speed under the speed limit.

 

That is entirely true. In which case you would be driving an old shovel nosed Corona or a Mark 1 Spitfire. Even the Datsun 1200 could be exciting at 30 mph. Methinks it is very hard to argue that cars have not become over capable, over engineered and over comfortable if you honestly want pleasure at legal levels of driving. It is not just about speed. Even spirited driving below the speed limit will get you under the dangerous driving charge.

 

Modern cars are safer and more comfortable than the old bangers and it is absurd to try to turn the clock back. The closest a modern car got to the old paradigm was the MX5, and all the bogans derided it as a "hairdressers" car within 5 seconds, showing that enjoyment was not on the top of the desirable list despite all the words stating so.

 

I like JohnA's comments about doing some track work. That makes more sense than talking about pleasure on the road. I think the best we can realistically expect on the road is comfort, safety and ego gratification. Nothing wrong with ego gratification, perhaps the most sensible reason in saving for a nice car (do people still save for a purchase?).

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There were some fun cars in the Grand Prix tents and on the grass this year. If the Mustuds did not have find getting in and out of such low cars awkward these days then I could have picked at least 3 cars I would get in a snap.

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Some great links there. All very lust worthy !

why cars like the merc a250 being discussed here are popular is trying to get a mix between somthing with still sone fun factor yet providing practicality of a family car. Ofcourse some compromises have to happen to achieve that.

Otherwise face it we'd all have or be getting cars that are awesome on a track like an aeriel atom. Or stripped bare classics like the Morgan 3 wheeler talked about in this thread which believed to be arriving for sale here soon.

Re the manual vs dsg thing. After 3 years of using a dsg I have to say its one aspect of the golf gti I absolutely love. It's rapid fire gear shifts I physically can't match and love all the stuff it does on upshifts down shifts. Yet has the every day convenience if an auto in stop start traffic. I've happy moved on from autos and manuals. But understand fully some want to maintain the experience you get with a manual car. That's the thing I guess where we look for different things in cars and something's matter to some more than others :)

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First one I've seen on the road. It still has that old A Class look to it, but yeah, nice car

Actually from that angle it looks more like a B Class, but more attractive due to the reduction in height. I think I have seen this car around town before.

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http://theage.drive.com.au/new-car-reviews/new-car-review-mercedesbenz-cla-250-20130322-2gjm5.html

 

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oooh  another baby merc in the CLA250 ... basically sedan version of the a250 hatch. I will have a stab at saying this is going to grab a whole lot of sales for people looking at a gorgeous little sedan with the three pointed star up the front :)

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Put your hand over the front of the car in that image so only the side is visable.

 

Looks like an older Hyundai Elantra. The lack of guard flares and the tucked in rear wheels - it looks like the baby of the family that it is

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You are starting to work on me with all these posts, al.

 

That is a nice car.

 

it sure looks a beauty mustud !

 

I got a call from the dealer saying lease company had been in touch and settlement going through etc so good chance I could have my 250 before easter :D

 

 am now wondering if I should get the front windows tinted to match the privacy glass of the rears :)

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it sure looks a beauty mustud !

 

I got a call from the dealer saying lease company had been in touch and settlement going through etc so good chance I could have my 250 before easter :D

 

 am now wondering if I should get the front windows tinted to match the privacy glass of the rears :)

 

Yes, and it only costs $120 to do both front windows. The only problem is finding a matching tint in a decent brand like 3M.

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Yes, and it only costs $120 to do both front windows. The only problem is finding a matching tint in a decent brand like 3M.

 

thanks triode, got a quote front tint a car over the phone of $150 but they said to just pop around and they'll quote and do on the spot. pretty quick to do apparently. so thats what will do :)

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thanks triode, got a quote front tint a car over the phone of $150 but they said to just pop around and they'll quote and do on the spot. pretty quick to do apparently. so thats what will do :)

 

I would shop around a bit. Tint a car prices vary wildly from branch to branch.

And I would try and find a 3M applicator instead - 3M films are the default standard.

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Hi Al,

 

My son has had his brand new SV6 Commodore tinted by a guy who is contracted to do tinting for the importers of Subaru, he also does all the European cars that are handled by the same importer. The person who manages these imports happens to be my brother.  I have seen the work and its better than good, he takes his time and makes sure the trims are dimantled and reassembled properly in you car, unlike the ones that are advertised.  He has also worked in these commercialised tinting outlets and he can tell you a few stories on how they tint cars....  I also went and got my wifes car done due to a faulty mechanism in the window.  The trick is no scratch marks or bubbles left behind, my wifes car had to be redone because they scratched the crap out of the tint, very dissappointing.  PM me if your interested and you live around the Highpoint/Spotswood area.

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Congratulations on the new car Al. Wondering if MB is offering capped price servicing for A and B?

 

thanks lhc, not quite got it as yet, but hopefully its this thurday, yes merc has a capped service program for the a class remember reading its something like $1400 for 50,000 or 3 years or something like that. I didnt pursue further as free servicing is included as part of corporate program am buying the car on.

 

I would shop around a bit. Tint a car prices vary wildly from branch to branch.

And I would try and find a 3M applicator instead - 3M films are the default standard.

 

thanks for the tip triode

 

Hi Al,

 

My son has had his brand new SV6 Commodore tinted by a guy who is contracted to do tinting for the importers of Subaru, he also does all the European cars that are handled by the same importer. The person who manages these imports happens to be my brother.  I have seen the work and its better than good, he takes his time and makes sure the trims are dimantled and reassembled properly in you car, unlike the ones that are advertised.  He has also worked in these commercialised tinting outlets and he can tell you a few stories on how they tint cars....  I also went and got my wifes car done due to a faulty mechanism in the window.  The trick is no scratch marks or bubbles left behind, my wifes car had to be redone because they scratched the crap out of the tint, very dissappointing.  PM me if your interested and you live around the Highpoint/Spotswood area.

 

thanks pchan am literally other end of the world ! but good to know some good operators out there and things to look out for :)

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Saw my first new A this morning on way to work. It looks good. In the dark! :-)

I do like the hatch version, not a fan of the sedan treatment.

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picked up the baby merc this morning ! over the moon with a big grin :D

 

wife absolutely loves it ! took a few pics,

 

love the key thats like a usb stick,

 

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few internal shots,

 

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few external shots,

 

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the grill is an absolute thing of beauty and love the big propeller up the front :)

 

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Congrats mate.

 

What a coincidence. I spotted a red one on the way to work this morning and looking from the rear passenger side quarter panel angle, I thought to myself that it didn't look half bad. I think it looks better in colour rather than black/white. 

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thanks guys ! we just came back from a drive in the hills. first chance I got to stretch it legs. its a really nice cruiser. and handles the winding and twisting bits very nicely. I gave it a couple of goes in sport mode where can go pretty nuts and this thing sure has some ! while the eco mode on other hand is great for just driving along and the start stop on the engine just doing its thing seamlessly. driving in the hills found the panaromic roof adds a nice airy feel and overall the cabin a nice place to spend some hours in :) 

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someone asked me some dimensions vs the golf gti, theyre pretty close :)

 

merc a250
L 4292mm, H 1433mm, W 1780 mm, W/base 2699mm, F/track 1553mm, R/track 1552mm, Fuel 56L, Weight 1432 kg

vw golf gti
L 4213mm, H 1501mm, W 1780 mm, W/base 2578mm, F/track 1533mm, R/track 1514mm, Fuel 55L, Weight 1380 kg

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