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^^ These high performance sport bikes are incredible. So much grunt with so little weight..How much that bike weigh, be under 300kg?  -- 

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On ‎3‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 8:37 PM, The Fez said:

^^ These high performance sport bikes are incredible. So much grunt with so little weight..How much that bike weigh, be under 300kg?  -- 

Dry weight of around 210 kgs. The new BMW S1000RR is offering 207 hp  (from 1000cc normally aspirated) and a kerb weight in M spec of 194 kgs (stock is 197 kgs)

 

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Slightly off topic; I was curious about the new carbon ceramic brakes (CCB) offered on some of the new high performance cars. I can see the benefits for track use if you are an exceptional skilled driver who can late brake with the best of them. On the road, apparently no difference in stopping distance (just less fade with repeated stops). Soooo, I priced the cost of a pads and rotor service (replacement) and got back a quote of $21,000 plus labour for front only (Audi). WTF!

I could (tongue in cheek) see an ad for a CCB equipped M3 in the future reading something like "needs new pads and rotors for a roadworthy certificate, giveaway car please come and collect on a car trailer. Parked out front, keys in the car, first to come past can have it".

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Random supercar of interest.....the new 'retro-futuristic' De Tomaso P72. Revived brand now associated with Apollo and celebrating the marque's 60th anniversary. I used to have a De Tomaso Mangusta Matchbox toy when I was a kid (showing my age!), I loved it. Of course, the Pantera was a great looking car as well.....

 

All I can say is about this latest incarnation......it's drop dead gorgeous!

 

https://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/de-tomaso-p72-goodwood-festival-designboom-1200.jpg

https://static.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/de-tomaso-p72-goodwood-festival-designboom-10.jpg

https://www.autodevot.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/De-Tomaso-P72.jpg

https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_1280w/public/images/news-article/2019/07/7045cc0cefa5f57b29d8893532522be3/de-tomaso-p72-front.jpg?itok=1mCrPVEH

 

Pagani inspired interior.....yum. Check the gear shifter.🙏

 

https://static.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/de-tomaso-p72-goodwood-festival-designboom-14.jpg

 

Hell yeah!!🤘👌

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Goodwood Festival of Speed 2019

Some classics and modern day, millions of $ on display here!

 

 

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rear of the De Tomaso P72 reminds me of the Alfa 33 Stradale from 1968, now this is a classic!

 

 

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On 06/07/2019 at 8:55 AM, DRC said:

 

Slightly off topic; I was curious about the new carbon ceramic brakes (CCB) offered on some of the new high performance cars. I can see the benefits for track use if you are an exceptional skilled driver who can late brake with the best of them. On the road, apparently no difference in stopping distance (just less fade with repeated stops). Soooo, I priced the cost of a pads and rotor service (replacement) and got back a quote of $21,000 plus labour for front only (Audi). WTF!

I could (tongue in cheek) see an ad for a CCB equipped M3 in the future reading something like "needs new pads and rotors for a roadworthy certificate, giveaway car please come and collect on a car trailer. Parked out front, keys in the car, first to come past can have it".

Thats Aldi tax right there., ask the about changing the oil in a DSG box 😳

 

From memory, R35 GTR was only about $7.5k for rotors and pads, once they were cracked past 5mm (from memory) and you could get aftermarket cheaper. 

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On 30/06/2019 at 10:24 PM, DRC said:

Both about to be posted on carsales and bikesales. The cat and the bird. Jaguar XF 3.0 V6 Supercharged and Suzuki Hayabusa 1340cc. The Busa has been a hoot, this tuned variant is making around 205 hp and has an insane amount of grunt even at 1/2 revs.

 

Time to consolidate the garage...

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Nice......what are you moving to?

 

Not ridden a busa; have heard very good things about it - it's a legendary bike. I used to have a Yamaha R-1 a few years ago when I worked in the USA. Was an absolute blast - 170 hp with a dry weight of 170kg giving a power to weight ratio of 1000bhp/tonne. Have done 100kmph in first gear. Sigh, I miss that bike!

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On ‎8‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 1:51 PM, anandpkumar said:

Nice......what are you moving to?

 

Not ridden a busa; have heard very good things about it - it's a legendary bike. I used to have a Yamaha R-1 a few years ago when I worked in the USA. Was an absolute blast - 170 hp with a dry weight of 170kg giving a power to weight ratio of 1000bhp/tonne. Have done 100kmph in first gear. Sigh, I miss that bike!

The Busa is quite misunderstood until you ride one. I took one for a test ride almost by accident (it was parked in front of the bike I was intending to test ride) and came away impressed. The monstrous torque and refined manners sold me straight away. No real thoughts of a replacement as there is a Beemer R1200RS in the garage that has been getting more use to be honest (the Busa can be too intimidating and focussed for a casual ride).

 

The random car of interest below is our Audi A6. Last night Bec was coming home from work an a large male kangaroo in the driveway took umbrage at the car in its territory and jumped onto the bonnet and windscreen. Bec was very shaken up, one more kick and the buck would have been in the cabin.

 

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12 minutes ago, DRC said:

The Busa is quite misunderstood until you ride one. I took one for a test ride almost by accident (it was parked in front of the bike I was intending to test ride) and came away impressed. The monstrous torque and refined manners sold me straight away. No real thoughts of a replacement as there is a Beemer R1200RS in the garage that has been getting more use to be honest (the Busa can be too intimidating and focussed for a casual ride).

 

The random car of interest below is our Audi A6. Last night Bec was coming home from work an a large male kangaroo in the driveway took umbrage at the car in its territory and jumped onto the bonnet and windscreen. Bec was very shaken up, one more kick and the buck would have been in the cabin.

 

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Crikey DC.............I hope she is OK...:thumb:

 

 

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Mate...........that's some damage to the windscreen. Thank goodness nobody got hurt. That must have been a scary experience for her.

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De Tomaso P72.   1st impressions looks like  Ferrari P4

 

Image result for ferrari p4

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2 hours ago, EvoMan said:

De Tomaso P72.   1st impressions looks like  Ferrari P4.

 

Image result for ferrari p4

 

 

https://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/de-tomaso-p72-goodwood-festival-designboom-1200.jpg

https://www.autodevot.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/De-Tomaso-P72.jpg

 

Yes, good point and it reminded me of this article I saw recently:

 

https://jalopnik.com/scuderia-cameron-glickenhaus-is-pissed-about-the-de-tom-1836211849

 

It reports that the designers of this Ferrari are not happy with De Tomaso, claiming they copied their designs of the P3/4, P4 and P4/5 for the P72......they may have a point.😃

 

Here's a P3/4:

 

https://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/jpg/200605/1966-ferrari-330-p3-one-o-2.jpg

 

Here's a 330 P4:

 

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/ferrari-330-p4-side-monza-1967-joern-schmidt.jpg

 

Here's a P4/5:

 

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/images/media/51/pininfarina-ferrari-p45-placement-photo-456125-s-original.jpg?resize=480:*

 

As I said, they may have a point......some damning evidence there.

 

De Tomaso claim they were paying homage to the De Tomaso P70 from the mid '60's. Here's a P70:

 

https://doubleapex.co.za/wp-content/uploads/De-Tomaso-P70.jpg

 

Nuh! Don't think so........I still love the De Tomaso P72 though.🙂

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I think DeTomaso has a basis for claiming the P72 is an evolution of their previous designs even if they were also influenced by the Ferrari designs.

 

Saw the P72 in the flesh at Goodwood - it is stunning and sounds wicked.

 42a19be4-de-tomaso-p72-sketch-1.jpg

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3 hours ago, lucmor444 said:

I think DeTomaso has a basis for claiming the P72 is an evolution of their previous designs even if they were also influenced by the Ferrari designs.

 

Saw the P72 in the flesh at Goodwood - it is stunning and sounds wicked.

 42a19be4-de-tomaso-p72-sketch-1.jpg

Wow, I hadn't seen the Sport 1000 and 2000 before.......a De Tomaso evolution to the P72 seems more feasible now.🙂

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The presenter is rather painful,,,but this will give you a reasonably good close up of the Ferrari F40.....enjoy...

 

 

 

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