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Phantom, you ae in Adelaide the home of Aussie Hi-fi (sorry SGR, Whatmough, Andrew Lion etc). Yes I think you should be able to go and have a listen, also to VAF, Challenge Hifi, Duratone etc) and there may be fellow SA forum members whom you can hear their gear at gettogethers.

Jeff

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There is a contact ph number on his site. Give him a call.

I am sure you can go have a listen to some of his speakers and have a chat with him since he is in Adelaide.

My mate brought mine "pot luck" as you would say. Very happy with them.

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I had heard several models by calling him when he had finished making other peoples. He doesn't have a show room. I hadn't heard my actual model, but I had heard the 8" version and was very impressed. The 10" in my opinion could only get better, and it did :confused: I also relied on quite a lot of chats with him before I was satisfied he knew his stuff and went with several of his recommendations without actually hearing them.

If you would like a listen to mine, PM me and we may be able to organise something. I don't have an ideal room and they aren't as fancy as some of the other Ascension speakers floating around this thread, but the offer is there.

Cheers

Pete

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Hey Pete and thanks a lot for your kind offer.

Just interested in which model you have and what configuration of drivers you have also.

I might take you up on your offer in a week or 2 so I can get an idea about these speakers.

I reckon they must be good because lots of people here are really enthused about them and IMO, word of mouth or specialist forums are the next best thing after your ears to find out how good any speaker or audio product is.

The only slightly negative comment I might make is that if someone is building good speakers, I reckon they should be able to demo them to prospective buyers. Don't need a fancy showroom or an expensive coffee machine, but if I was making them I would want to show them off as well as possible.

Still, it seems like he knows what he is doing and good luck to the bloke.

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As in my signature, I have the Summoner 1073TL model. 3 way transmission Line design.

At the bottom is a 10" main woofer, then a high end Vifa tweeter (not sure of the model name, but I am pretty sure its on my receipt) and then at the top a 5.25" midrange. Finished in real wood American Oak veneer and stained gloss Jarrah. They weigh around 40kg each, 6ohm, 26Hz-40kHz, 92dB (from memory) and 160Wrms (music power).

I was on a very tight budget (cost me $1080 I think) so opted to go for the generic woofer and midrange with Edward's special treatment on them. I did go with the high end tweeter though as I really can't stand poor high frequencies. Now I have a friend who has basically the same setup as me, except he went with the high end Peerless woofer, and to be honest I like mine better. Mine is also more efficient.

So yeah, feel free to let me know if you want a listen. It's nothing like some of the other systems the, but I believe it's fantastic for the money. If you have any good quality CDs or a TT setup you would like to bring, feel free as my collection is only starting really.

Cheers

Pete

Ignore the top boxes and the surroundings. The top speakers are for someone else and the setup was only in the living area while the lounge was being renovated! :confused:

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The only slightly negative comment I might make is that if someone is building good speakers, I reckon they should be able to demo them to prospective buyers. Don't need a fancy showroom or an expensive coffee machine, but if I was making them I would want to show them off as well as possible.

Still, it seems like he knows what he is doing and good luck to the bloke.

I sort of quizzed him on how he operates back when I was buying mine, and basically got the impression that he's not looking to become a big deal and "get rich", his business is currently operating at a sales level (almost constant 8 week back log of orders) and most importantly in a fashion he's comfortable with so he just doesn't feel any compulsion to change or 'improve' his model.

It's not how I'd run things either, and his website is a mess, but I got me some good speakers (Timberwolf 8883PRTL) at a good price so I'm not complaining. :confused:

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Hi All

As previously posted i finally picked up my new summoners (1093's) last weekend. I have attached pictures. These are powered by a Rotel RB-1552 power amp (rated 120 watts/Ch, class AB). My sourround amp is a Marantz SR6003.

Looks and finish

Finish is very good. The only thing i think that could be improved on is the grill. The wood frame could be made thicker with inserts cut out to accommodate the bass driver rim and to sit flush with the baffle. It is only a minor thing and they certainly look good with the grill off or on.

I also had some barium sulphate added to the inside panels to help reduce cabinet resonance along with the usual sound damping material. That made this speaker heavier (probably weighs in around 50Kgs).

Sound

First impressions is that they appear to have a very neutral, clean sound. I have also found them to be deceptive in their loudness as a few times i left the room and returned i was amazed at how loud they were! I opted for the SB Acoustics bass and midrange drivers. The tweeter is a scanspeak Illuminator series ( i ordered that from overseas). I have also changed the positioning of these. I moved them closer together and moved the sub to the other side of the left speaker so that it is closer to the corner (sub is an SVS SB-12plus). The sound is still very neutral. The bass is authorative, smooth and detailed. It is well controlled with no hint of boominess. The midrange and top end are nether forward nor over bright. This is not a speaker that instantly blows your away but slowly draws you into the musical experience. They are still being run in and expect them to only improve.

Cheers

Dazz

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Very nice Daz, I hope you enjoy them as much as the rest of us do, congrats on your purchase.

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Thanks NGM. My poor sub looks so small sitting next to these huge speakers! The bass on these 1093's is very good. I still run the sub with them just to get the very low bass but they certainly sound good on pure direct mode. Very solid and extended bass. i am still getting use to the the size of these and the sound. These sound very different from my other speakers (now on the system in the back of the house).

Dazz

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I have just bought speakers from the Timberwolf range. They have a brilliant sound in both top and bottom registers. I have had speakers since 1960 and these are by far the best I have ever heard. I can listen to my old CD's and hear sounds that were not there before. The service was great too. You deal directly with the man who designs and builds the product, not a suit on a commission.

Marshall

Welcome to the forums and sounds like your happy with the speakers which is what matters, I have some of Edwards Timberwolfs also and I'm very happy with them. I'm sure you will enjoy them and your vsiits here.

I have been thinking of replacing my speakers which are now 10 years old with some new ones and I have read a fair bit of this thread in the last day. I have to say I am really confused about these speakers, some love 'em and some loathe 'em.

Had a look at the website but found it crowded and not logical to navigate. Is there any way of actually listening to these speakers at my place or is it only made to order?

Makes things difficult if this isn't available.

Does this dude have a showroom of any kind?

To everyone here who has bought these and posted good stuff about them, how did you get to hear them first or did you just take pot luck?

Seems a bit risky, especially since speakers are the most personal and subjective part of buying audio stuff.

Don't get me wrong, cos it would be great if something local was great sound and great value and I think it's good to support Aussie manufacturers.

If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

Thanks guys.

Hard to keep floor stock when you offer so many models and options as he often tweaks or customs a great deal of the products. Mine were a custom build so how do I expect someone to have stock for a demo ? And demoing a speaker in a show room or whatever doesn't tell you how they will sound in your own settings. I've known so many people who live by the rule of listening first who have only been left disapointed once they got them home. Different gear and different room acousitcs can make up for quite a different sound so in my mind demoing is only useful if you can take it home.

As to what I did. I did demo a few speakers, though none could I take home. All the retail speakers I could afford I didn't like and some were worse than what I already had. All the speakers I did like started at about 3 times my HT budget just for the mains. I did listen to some of Edwards speakers though not a model I was going to get and after several talks with him I felt confident I would get what I was after, and he did exactly that.

Seeing as you in Adelaide your quite welcome to come have a listen to my speakers if you wish also and if you want a look there is a thread here on them.

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Phantom... Mitcon's speakers are much more in the price range you are looking for, so will probably give you a better idea of what you will get for your money. That said, if you still want to have a listen to mine, feel free.

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If anyone wishes to hear mine i am happy to oblige (I live in Adelaide). Just send me a PM.

I am still running them in but i have taken some time to move these around. I actually moved them further apart and the results were very different. The mid and top end came alive. They sound even better now so i am even more happy :cool:

Cheers

Dazz

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Hey guys, does anyone know where (if) I can hear these anywhere in Brisbane? I am becoming more and more intested in them reading this cult like following here.

I have about $1.5-$2k tops budget and if these are as good as you say they are, I may be able to either get a much better speaker for my dollar, or, be able to squeze in a new amp under my budget (The accountant will be happy!)

So, where can I audition them in Brisbane?

cheers!

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MGM is in brisbane and has edwards speakers plus afew other guys here. just shoot him a pm and im sure he can help you

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MGM is in brisbane and has edwards speakers plus afew other guys here. just shoot him a pm and im sure he can help you

Oh cool, I am really keen to hear them, they seem to be very good value for money!

cheers!

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Oh cool, I am really keen to hear them, they seem to be very good value for money!

cheers!

I'm actually on the Gold Coast but your more than welcome to have a listen if you want to travel down here, just PM me

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I'm actually on the Gold Coast but your more than welcome to have a listen if you want to travel down here, just PM me

Ok cool, thx mate. I very very rarely make it down the coast, but I do have some mates at Ormeu. next time I am down that way I will try and let you know so we can hook up.

Thx for the offer

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Im am at Jindalee and have a set of Summoner 863s but ALAS, new baby has put my system build on hold, and my frequent excursions past north on the volume dial are over for the time being.

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Hi guys, first post on these forums after using them heaps to help me pick my amp (Denon 790) and finally ordered my Ascension speakers today.

Summoner 863PKSTL

Firesprite 502RV

Woodowl 252KS

Subwoofer 1222VHTL

Main worries at the moment are my colour choice and whether the firesprite rears will actually be to big. At 300x200x215 they look huge, but the 402 @ 240x140x215 seem small.

The colour I have gone with is the charcoal black rather than the deeper/darker black. Anyone who's posted photos are yours the charcoal or darker one.

I've got matching kevlar drivers and tweeters in the fronts and centre. Any changes anyone would make to the setup.

Cheers

Edited by kulprit

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G'day, congrats on the new purchase and welcome to SNA Kulprit. There are quite a few happy owners of Adelaide speakers on SNA, so i'm sure you'll get plenty of input from them soon.

Oh! and don't forget the pics when you get them.

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Cheers Grumpy. Its a big purchase for me so hoping i've done the right thing. Nothing in my price range at any of the shops really impressed me at all, and everyone seemed so happy with them here. Plus Edward is the most helpful guy i've talked to.

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I've got matching kevlar drivers and tweeters in the fronts and centre. Any changes anyone would make to the setup.

I went with the 863PRKTL ... ie using a Fountek NeoCD3 ribbon, rather than your "S" (what type of tweeter)

IMHO the ribbon is very detailed, but not very forgiving of bad recordings or bright/harsh sounding equipment.... unfortunately this only worsens my upgraditis.

I got the fully black colour.... which still shows quite a bit of woodgrain through.

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Hmm, any chance of a photo davewantsmoore? Maybe I should ring before the cabinet maker starts and get the black rather than charcoal? Anyone actually got photos of the charcoal?

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Hmm, any chance of a photo davewantsmoore? Maybe I should ring before the cabinet maker starts and get the black rather than charcoal? Anyone actually got photos of the charcoal?

Welcome Kulprit, I got the charcoal colour for my centre only, works for me and it's fine, but if I was going black for everything I would definitely go with the deep black.

The charcoal is more like a deep brown than black, it's like dark chocolate all most.

I didn't get the ribbon and in hindsight I'm glad, they wouldn't match my other equipment, and I think that is the catch, make sure you match what your buying to what you've got, unless you don't mind constantly upgrading. I have Rotel amps which are quite bright, so I would not want things any brighter than what they are, and the detail I'm getting is brilliant anyway.

Others that don't own these speakers have their own motives for continuing to knock them, but I still reckon for the very low price, these are by far the best value new speakers around IMHO. I'm very happy with mine, you can pump these things to insane levels without any compromise in sound quality, there outstanding.

If you're on a budget, these are sensationally good value and a great place to start the audio journey, so I'm sure you will be well pleased, not so sure about your neighbours though.:)

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Thanks NGM, Rang Edward yesterday and stuck with the charcoal black. The stain he uses for it is 3/4 black, 1/4 walnut. Sounds like it will be pretty nice. Hope this helps some other people too. Just going out to buy speaker wire today, either jaycar or bunnings, whichever is cheaper or better, not sure.

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