Prana69 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) My point is, Dave ... if you use a ZeroDust, you don't need to use one of those. (But if you want to double-handle ... go right ahead! ) Regards, Andy Yeah, I get that Andy. It just comes back to the $50 magic goop vs $5 magic eraser (which can actually be cut into smaller pieces and last a long long time) + generally free stylus brush to get the same result. Plus, I note people at VA also complaining about the goop losing it's "goopiness" over time. You'd be using a brush anyway wouldn't you, to remove fibres and dust from around and under the cantilever and nearer the body where the goop is not designed to clean?. DaveR Edited July 27, 2012 by Prana69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSV Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 I really think that the cost of the Zerodust is negligible compared to the price of a cartridge. Mine was $2200. I just think for what it does, it's a must have. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prana69 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) I really think that the cost of the Zerodust is negligible compared to the price of a cartridge. Mine was $2200. I just think for what it does, it's a must have. Paul Yes, well, if you paid $2200 for your cart, $50 probably would seem "negligible". So, your preferred cleaning method is 1/44th the cost of your cart. My most expensive cart was the Garrott at $200. At $5 for the Magic Eraser, my preferred cleaning method is 1/40th the cost of my cart. Therefore, on a cleaning method cost per cart cost ratio, we are almost equivalent! More dodgy maths there than you'll find on the back of Joe Hockey's beer coaster! DaveR Edited July 27, 2012 by Prana69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSV Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) touche DaveR Missing an acute accent Edited July 27, 2012 by paulv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I ordered one last week.Direct from Japan guaranteed fresh stock.$40 http://www.ebay.com....984.m1497.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batty Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I've had mine about 4 years, still fresh as a daisy, just don't leave the cover off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) I ordered one last week.Direct from Japan guaranteed fresh stock.$40 http://www.ebay.com....984.m1497.l2649 Has it arrived yet Stump, I only ask because the Ad says it comes Fast from Japan, US. ?? Checked my stylus with a Jewellers glass and I can't get the Gunk off that bloody thing. I use lower priced carts so i might give the Magic Eraser a shot. Edited July 28, 2012 by Grumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Wait a minute! I was given some little white square sponge things (thanks RR) that look like that magic eraser stuff. It doesn't clean the stylus, but it does remove a small amount of gunk if it's really bad. Most times nothing comes off that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batty Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Anyone use the Linn green paper approach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rural Rat Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Wait a minute! I was given some little white square sponge things (thanks RR) that look like that magic eraser stuff. It doesn't clean the stylus, but it does remove a small amount of gunk if it's really bad. Most times nothing comes off that I can see. It is Magic Eraser that I gave you Grumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 It is Magic Eraser that I gave you Grumps. Thought that's what is was RR. It does remove a small speck of gunk If I haven't used it for awhile, but not all the hair etc I can see with the jewellers glass . I think I'm just being fussy because the pic up the top looks so clean in the after shot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Anyone use the Linn green paper approach? Only those with large, Linn blinkers bolted to their temples. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Thought that's what is was RR. It does remove a small speck of gunk If I haven't used it for awhile, but not all the hair etc I can see with the jewellers glass . I think I'm just being fussy because the pic up the top looks so clean in the after shot I wonder if the ME-addicts will bother to read your post? Because IMO they need to. I can guarantee the ZeroDust does get the gunk off - why do I know this? ... because after a couple of weeks use subsequent to the last wash under a warm tap, you can see lots of little black dots (like fly specks) on the surface of the gunk - which can only have come from the stylus. IOW, it does an excellent job - although I'm open to the idea that P69 brought up ... that it loses its effectiveness over time. I think I'll buy a new one (as mine's about 10 years old) and test out that hypothesis. Regards, Andy Edited July 28, 2012 by andyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsss Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I have a zerodust. Invaluable, gets the gunk off, lasts for years, an essential item. For the fluff and everyday brushing I just use a camel hair artists' paint brush. About once a week I use the zerodust. DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tax Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Just on the zero dust subject, every so often it must be occasionally rinsed under the hot water tap to get rid of the residue it picks up from the stylus. I must be due for a new one as I recently noticed all the scratches from the styli from my carts. When I had the Lyra Skala with the rice paper cover, I would use a piece of magic erasure to get the gunk of the rice paper. The Onzow works a treat and Warwick usually posts it in record time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Gawd i want a foot in at least 3 camps an I ain't no tripod 1 used magic eraser for years to no ill effect Andyr on visits exhibited horror at this practice 2 Moved to more expensive carts Grado Europa mm Grado signature ortofon tango denon 103 and moved to tiny (I think eye lash) brush I found on bathroom floor very fine works well 3 am now watching zero dust on eBay Logic says magic eraser Fear of damaging stylus says .... Take all due precautions 4 Suggest u all investigate female make up bags or your own if cross dressing is your thing or price line for couple of bucks its pretty fool proof Pranas $ for $ argument is very strong Edited July 28, 2012 by djb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I have a zerodust. Invaluable, gets the gunk off, lasts for years, an essential item. For the fluff and everyday brushing I just use a camel hair artists' paint brush. About once a week I use the zerodust. DS I wondering on what basis, David, you decided once a week is the optimum usage interval? (It certainly doesn't make sense to me. ) I use it before each side - it takes so little time to do this (no longer than your camel hair brush, I suggest), and then I know that absolutely the stylus is spotless, each play!! Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsss Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I wondering on what basis, David, you decided once a week is the optimum usage interval? (It certainly doesn't make sense to me. ) I use it before each side - it takes so little time to do this (no longer than your camel hair brush, I suggest), and then I know that absolutely the stylus is spotless, each play!! Regards, Andy Laziness? DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Logic says magic eraser Why? Prana's $ for $ argument is very strong There is no logic, IMO, in comparing the relative cost of cleaners with the relative cost of cartridges. People may not be able to afford a cartridge costing thousands - so they have to buy carts costing hundreds ... but very few who are serious about vinyl, I suggest, cannot afford to pay $40 or $50 for a ZeroDust. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 QUERY 1 logic says use magic eraser cos its worked well for me and broken nothing for 4 years i gave it up because many people said thy thought it might break something i then worried it would break an expensive stylus when it had never done so to a cheap one! QUERY 2 You got me here most all of us can afford $40 for zerodust which seems to last a very long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 QUERY 1 logic says use magic eraser cos its worked well for me and broken nothing for 4 years Well, it depends what you mean by "worked well", David. How do know it left your stylus spotless? I've seen mine under a x200 microscope and it is clean ... and there are all those black spots on the ZoeroDust gel surface, which can only have come from the stylus. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) i'd require the hubble telescope to produce similar findings! Edited July 29, 2012 by djb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Isn't that the same as the Extreme phono product that has been out for a while? http://www.extremephono.com/Stylus_Cleaner.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Isn't that the same as the Extreme phono product that has been out for a while? http://www.extremeph...lus_Cleaner.htm It may well be, as the Extremephono one is also a gel. I guess you would have to buy them both and compare them, to get the answer. Regards, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welly Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Is that a Kuzma arm that you have the cart mounted on? If so, which one and how do you find it? The reason I ask is, that I am looking to upgrade my jelco 750D, that I have on my Woodpecker, in the near future and the Kuzma range is on my list. Your arm wouldn't happen to be the Stogi S would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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