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Well Chez Prog is in ruins..........

 

 

 

 

My study that is.......................

 

 

 

 

I have had to dismantle all my cupboards, CD shelves, stacks, racks and packs all in the name up a long overdue update seeing we moved here in 1993. I will be keeping my original custom desk, my music centre, most of my CD cupboards but will do a total repaint and the fitting of those wooden lookalike floor planks to match the rest of the house.

 

This has been long overdue and one that has bugged the war office since 1854 B.C.

 

So to appease the sledge hammer, I had a huge day of prog and other to ensure I kept the missus out of the room for as long as possible. It didn't work because she found the volume knob.......

 

Still, a productive, if not humid day was had by all.

 

 

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So spent a long time today with some classic prog and rock.   A bottle of Shiraz, some chips, chocolates and no work!!!!    

Steven Wilson ~ The Raven That Refused To Sing  

HI @betocool   Had a look and the cheapest, with the GST added was from OS, most of the local ones were $20+ more.   https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=The+S



Well after a morning at the local Mens' Shed, I settled in for an afternoon and evening of yet a little more prog.

 

 

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The top disc features Roine Stolt (Flower Kings / Transatlantic / The Tangent / Karmakanic / Agents of Mercy.

 

The 2nd disc is Anubis from Australia - A Tower Of Silence. One of THE best prog albums from OZ.

 

Martin Orford is the keys man for IQ / Jadis / The Lens. Ironically, he quit the music scene altogether when illegal downloads started to take off and basically said, if you're not going to pay for my music, then I won't bother writing anymore. This is a huge pity as he is a great player and this album is brilliant. The main song, The Old Road is simply stunning.

 

That Kestrel album is also killer. Although not a thoroughly prog album from start to finish, it features some of the nicest mellotron you will ever hear and would not be out of place on a King Crimson / Genesis / Druid / Tony Banks song.

 

If you're the impatient type of guy and just want to get to the good bits, scroll to the 3:50 mark and play from then on. Think "In The Court Of The Crimson King"

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

 

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I came across a heap of excellent Spanish prog CDs that I haven't play for ages so I thought these needed to be heard again.  Not sure if time will allow me to hear all of them today / tonight but I'll give it a crack. You may not have heard of too many of these guys, but trust me, the music is phenomenal, almost as good as Italian prog..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Received today (along with the new The Pineapple Theif album: posted on Vinyl Spinning Only).

 

This album is by prog God, Devin Townsend. Be aware it's not prog metal. Far from it; its better.

 

This album has Country, it has Jazz, it has Ambience, it has Blues, it has Rootsy Folk. It has American Indian flute and Indian chanting.

 

Is this in your collectin JJ? Just brilliant.

 

Even has slide guitar and the odd sax wail.  Stunning sq in fact. It has this bombastic bass thread running through out.  Pretty good pickup for my first cd of the year.

 

It has a femail vocalist called Che Aimee Dorval; who l have never heard of before. Stunning vocal though. You would probably like this @scuzzii. I think l saw it on Discogs. Very expensive from memory. Even the cd was hard to get. Got it from Germany. Mainly got the cd, because it has a bonus disc and a dvd. It features Morgan Agren from Frank Zappa. The flutist is a chap called Kat Epple.

 

Well worth a listen. You might even like it Keith @cheekyboy

Definitely has an American Country Rootsy vibe to it.

 

Devin Townsend: Casualties Of Cool.

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17 hours ago, needlerunner said:

Received today (along with the new The Pineapple Theif album: posted on Vinyl Spinning Only).

 

This album is by prog God, Devin Townsend. Be aware it's not prog metal. Far from it; its better.

 

This album has Country, it has Jazz, it has Ambience, it has Blues, it has Rootsy Folk. It has American Indian flute and Indian chanting.

 

Is this in your collectin JJ? Just brilliant.

 

Even has slide guitar and the odd sax wail.  Stunning sq in fact. It has this bombastic bass thread running through out.  Pretty good pickup for my first cd of the year.

 

It has a femail vocalist called Che Aimee Dorval; who l have never heard of before. Stunning vocal though. You would probably like this @scuzzii. I think l saw it on Discogs. Very expensive from memory. Even the cd was hard to get. Got it from Germany. Mainly got the cd, because it has a bonus disc and a dvd. It features Morgan Agren from Frank Zappa. The flutist is a chap called Kat Epple.

 

Well worth a listen. You might even like it Keith @cheekyboy

Definitely has an American Country Rootsy vibe to it.

 

Devin Townsend: Casualties Of Cool.

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Devin is a genius and I think just the term Prog perfectly sums him up. It took me a long time to get into his album Ki (even though I bought it on release) I'm a hardcore Devy fan. Casualties of cool  is definitely a must have for a persepctive shift. He also opened me up to open tuning on guitar. 

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Hi All,

 

Earlier today played, Bruford : Rock Goes To College

 

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Earlier today I received a bunch of CDs 

Mainly Prog thanks to @progladyte 

 

So I will go through them and post my impressions of what music was received 

 

First up is an Aussie band 

Aragon - Don’t Bring The Rain 

 

Aragon is a band from Melbourne formed in 1987 and one member has a Greek name 

 

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I had heard of them, but this is the first time I have sat down to listen 

 

My observation of this album after 4 spins 

Genre is heavy rock / Prog in nature 

Style - somewhere in between Rush and Marillion (to my ears)

 

The lead singer is fabulous and in full control 

The band is controlled and tight, you might even say it is dynamic 

 

I found the album content to be well done but a little forced

Just need to explain it here - Content  constantly goes to almost the same tempo on many tracks 

 

Apart from that it was enjoyable 

My track picks are 

2 Company of Wolves 

3 Solstice 

The most Prog tracks are 

The Crucifixion 

 

 

 

 

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Can- Soon Over Babaluma (1974)

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Another covid orphan that's turned up 2 months late. Luverly stuff.

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Hi All,

 

An arrival yesterday that was purchased in early April last year, Råg I Ryggen by Råg I Ryggen a repressing of the 1975 release.

 

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From Alter.cat Records:

Widely regarded as a milestone in Swedish hard-rock history, Råg I Ryggen is the homonymous debut album released by six youngsters from Stockholm back in 1975. It was recorded in just two sessions in February that year at the EMI studio in Skärmarbrink, one of the most modern 16-channel studios available in Sweden in that period. The sessions clocked around 16 hours in total, with barely any time left for overdubs. Clearly influenced by bands like Uriah Heep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and even Yes or Jethro Tull, the sounds contained here will appeal to hard-rock, heavy psych and progressive fans alike.

 

 

 

 

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Following up on my last post 

Reviewing a stack of Prog CDs 

 

Today’s band is an English neo-progressive rock band formed by Mick Pointer (founder of Marillion) and Clive Nolan (keyboard player of Pendragon). 

This album has at times a heavy but lively beat to it, but also delicate and sensitive in parts - what made it enjoyable for me is it’s fantastic rhythmic beat 

 

Artist - Arena 

Title - The Visitor - released 1998 

 

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Hi Proggers,

 

Pendragon, The Masquerade Overture whilst getting dinner ready

 

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On 31/01/2021 at 12:13 PM, Full Range said:

Following up on my last post 

Reviewing a stack of Prog CDs 

 

Today’s band is an English neo-progressive rock band formed by Mick Pointer (founder of Marillion) and Clive Nolan (keyboard player of Pendragon). 

This album has at times a heavy but lively beat to it, but also delicate and sensitive in parts - what made it enjoyable for me is it’s fantastic rhythmic beat 

 

Artist - Arena 

Title - The Visitor - released 1998 

 

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Thanks Fuul Range.

Will get on Spotty and check it out. Not heard of this artist.

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1 hour ago, needlerunner said:

Not the greatest prog voice in the Universe. But his arrangements are stupendously good.

 

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Update.

 

Been listening to the new Steven Wilson album. At first listen, l thought wtf ...not him, not sure if l even like it...so different. Not prog!

 

2nd listen, mmmn,  l'm starting to like this.

 

3rd listen. This is pure genius....album of the year.

 

Is this guy not a revelation!

 

👌 K

 

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Although a prog fan, this is my first post on this thread I believe. I love a lot of prog but would not consider myself an aficionado of the genre. I get into all the early staple prog bands such as Yes, Rush, Tull, Genesis, Floyd, Focus, Dixie Dregs (yes, I reckon they're prog) and Kansas. Which brings me to the point of this post. 

 

Just thought I'd mention that this album is essential for the annals of prog.....so refreshing that it came out late last year. "The Absence Of Presence" is a great prog album (I'm listening to it now!).....former Yes part time touring keyboardist Tom Brislin has joined Kansas and along with guitarist and now chief songwriter Zak Rizvi, who joined prior to their previous album, the excellent 'The Prelude Implicit', has injected some serious prog chops into an already accomplished prog band. This album rocks in all the right places.....it's up there with Kansas best of the 70's. 👌:heart:

 

News – Kansas Band | Classic Rock Band | The Absence of Presence

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Worth a listen

 

Regards Cazzesman

 

PS.  Listening to the interview - I can't believe Steven doesn't know who Devin Townsend is and has never heard Empath.  😮

 

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20 hours ago, stevoz said:

Although a prog fan, this is my first post on this thread I believe. I love a lot of prog but would not consider myself an aficionado of the genre. I get into all the early staple prog bands such as Yes, Rush, Tull, Genesis, Floyd, Focus, Dixie Dregs (yes, I reckon they're prog) and Kansas. Which brings me to the point of this post. 

 

Just thought I'd mention that this album is essential for the annals of prog.....so refreshing that it came out late last year. "The Absence Of Presence" is a great prog album (I'm listening to it now!).....former Yes part time touring keyboardist Tim Brislin has joined Kansas and along with guitarist and now chief songwriter Zak Rivki, who joined prior to their previous album, the excellent 'The Prelude Implicit', has injected some serious prog chops into an already accomplished prog band. This album rocks in all the right places.....it's up there with Kansas best of the 70's. 👌:heart:

 

News – Kansas Band | Classic Rock Band | The Absence of Presence

 

 

@ steveoz

 

Nice bit of work there Steve! Good to see you have chimed into the thread. All input is valued and welcome so please don't be shy.

 

If you have uncovered a proggish type of album, we would all like to hear about it.

 

There are many varied types of prog fans on here, including old farts like me as well as some younger people getting their feet wet and trying out different recommendations.

 

Kansas have always been a great band especially for the first part of their brilliant career. Although they lost their way a little bit in the latter par of last century, it's great to see a good come back album like this.

 

Think I'll give this another spin.

 

Cheers

 

Prog

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21 hours ago, cazzesman said:

Worth a listen

 

Regards Cazzesman

 

PS.  Listening to the interview - I can't believe Steven doesn't know who Devin Townsend is and has never heard Empath.  😮

 

 

 

Great interview. Saw it last week.

Like wise was stunned he had not heard of Devin...how could he not. Surely they mix in the same circles. Though l think Steven may be a bit of a recluse? Or was it tongue in cheek perhaps?

 

Empath is a stunning must have album. Imagine if SW and DT collaborated on an album...wow!

 

Just ordered The Future Bites from JBs. Have been fairly hammering it on Spotify all week. It gets better with every listen.

Can't wait to hear it on my system.

👌 K

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Transatlantic - The Absolute Universe - Forevermore extended version.

A unique release of two full length albums, this one is 90 minutes and the other called A Breath of Life abridged version, 65 minutes long.

The abridged version is not a shortened version but a different version altogether, some songs have different lyrics, some are total rewritten, and some are not on the extended version, interesting concept.

 

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Hi All,

 

Getting on the Transatlantic Playlist, Kaleidoscope.

 

I see there is a Box Set of the Forevermore, which I may suggest as a birthday present to me 😊😍🤞

 

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12 minutes ago, Janjuc said:

Hi All,

 

Getting on the Transatlantic Playlist, Kaleidoscope.

 

I see there is a Box Set of the Forevermore, which I may suggest as a birthday present 😊😍🤞

 

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Good luck with that, most of the good stuff was sold out when I looked this morning

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2 hours ago, awayward said:

Transatlantic - The Absolute Universe - Forevermore extended version.

A unique release of two full length albums, this one is 90 minutes and the other called A Breath of Life abridged version, 65 minutes long.

 

I just got back from walkies whereupon I listened to A Breath Of Life via the tidals. 

 

Idano I may be over this kind of epic prog ... the melodies, musicanship and harmonies are great but the song just kept on goin' and a-goin', with crescendo after crescendo, and non-sequitur instrumental diversions, until finally - finally! - it stopped. And to be honest half of it coulda been cut out, or it coulda finished at a different point, and it wouldnae have made any difference IMHO. And to think there's another version out there that's almost half as long again.

 

Maybe it will take a few more listens ... just dunno if I have the time 😄 

 

--Geoff

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19 hours ago, Janjuc said:

Hi All,

 

Getting on the Transatlantic Playlist, Kaleidoscope.

 

I see there is a Box Set of the Forevermore, which I may suggest as a birthday present 😊😍🤞

 

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That's very considerate of you there JJ.

 

My birthday is a little way off yet, but hey, I can wait... 😁

 

Do you need my address??? 🙂

20 hours ago, awayward said:

Transatlantic - The Absolute Universe - Forevermore extended version.

A unique release of two full length albums, this one is 90 minutes and the other called A Breath of Life abridged version, 65 minutes long.

The abridged version is not a shortened version but a different version altogether, some songs have different lyrics, some are total rewritten, and some are not on the extended version, interesting concept.

 

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The most awesomestest covers!   Can't wait for mine to arrive!!!

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Hi @progladyte

 

I have your address from the CDs sent a fortnight ago, and thanks for sending them, hope the money transferred  OK.

19 hours ago, awayward said:

Good luck with that, most of the good stuff was sold out when I looked this morning

I ordered the Transatlantic Absolute Universe Forevermore (Extended Version) 3LP + 2CD Box Set

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23 hours ago, awayward said:

Transatlantic - The Absolute Universe - Forevermore extended version.

A unique release of two full length albums, this one is 90 minutes and the other called A Breath of Life abridged version, 65 minutes long.

The abridged version is not a shortened version but a different version altogether, some songs have different lyrics, some are total rewritten, and some are not on the extended version, interesting concept.

 

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The Universal Forevermore Edition is on it's way from Germany to Casa de Betocool I've been informed. Should be a few weeks and it's in my hands, one does hope.

 

Can't wait, even though I still have to. Will resist the temptation from the digital dealers.

 

Cheers,

 

Alberto

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4 minutes ago, betocool said:

The Universal Forevermore Edition is on it's way from Germany to Casa de Betocool I've been informed. Should be a few weeks and it's in my hands, one does hope.

 

Can't wait, even though I still have to. Will resist the temptation from the digital dealers.

 

Cheers,

 

Alberto

I’m a bit surprised that most seem to be buying Forevermore, and not the Breath of Life also as the albums are different, I have bought both.

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20 minutes ago, JukKluk2 said:

Hey, Mr @progladyte, you're not receiving messages. Did you know?

 

 

Hi JK,

 

I don't think I've missed any messages to date.

 

Can you re-send if possible and I'll get back to you.

 

Thanks

 

Prog

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23 hours ago, betocool said:

The Universal Forevermore Edition is on it's way from Germany to Casa de Betocool I've been informed. Should be a few weeks and it's in my hands, one does hope.

 

Can't wait, even though I still have to. Will resist the temptation from the digital dealers.

 

Cheers,

 

Alberto

I ordered a Devin Townsend cd from Germany recently. Only took 11 days. Was very much supprised when l saw it I'm my letterbox.

16 hours ago, progladyte said:

Have been playing some prog metal and 70's rock for most of the day and am enjoying both immensely.

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Ah, Grand Funk. Now that takes me back.

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Transatlantic - The Absolute Universe - extended version is now in my hot little hands.

 

Will be good to give this one a spin........

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6 hours ago, progladyte said:

Transatlantic - The Absolute Universe - extended version is now in my hot little hands.

 

Will be good to give this one a spin........

You lucky bastard!

 

Enjoy!

 

Cheers,

 

Alberto

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I’ve recently been listening to early Genesis, Yes, Gentle Giant and am really glad to have found it. Some great YouTube channels like JustJP and sea of tranquility helped me discover this music.

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On 08/02/2021 at 3:10 PM, progladyte said:

Transatlantic - The Absolute Universe - extended version is now in my hot little hands.

 

Will be good to give this one a spin........

Look forward to hearing your thoughts Greg.

Im still waiting for my vinyl/cd box set.

 

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5 minutes ago, patjoy said:

Look forward to hearing your thoughts Greg.

Im still waiting for my vinyl/cd box set.

 

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I ordered both the vinyl/CD box sets before I heard them, I’ve been streaming them and have been disappointed, I’m hoping it will get better with more spins.

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@Shane_B

 

Welcome aboard Shane!

 

Feel free to float about the cabin!

 

You've joined the right forum / thread if you like some good doses of prog music. There's a ton of great recommendations here from a vast assortment of members with an equally diverse level of interest and musical preferences.

 

I used to write reviews for Sea of Tranquility but had to give up due to being too damned busy to keep up the constant demand for my thoughts.

 

If you'd like some other excellent sites to visit, try these:

 

www.rateyourmusic.com

 

This is a huge database type of site that allows you to both rate albums you own or like and include the format in which you own the title. What started out as a small time hobby for the owner has become a huge enterprise with heaps of assistant support staff keeping all the facts and figures up to date. If it has been released in any physical (or digital) format, it will be listed there (except for the very latest items which might take a week or 2 to appear depending on the popularity of the band / artist.

 

www.progarchives.com

 

Another excellent site listing just about every prog title imaginable along with reviews and links to where the albums / media can be bought.

 

www.dprp.net

 

The Dutch Progressive Rock Page - an excellent site devoted to mostly progressive rock with a section for other sub genre (progressive metal / avant garde  etc.

 

Very well written reviews are posted frequently by some dedicated guys who know their stuff. I have uncovered literally thousands of excellent bands that were totally unknown to me before reading through their vast database.

 

www.gnosis2000.net

 

This is a very special site that concentrates on all things prog although lately they have allowed members to add some really obscure titles that no-one has ever heard of before. It can become very tedious uploading a nil, (unrated), score on an album you don't have or know but the amount of material on there that is rated by a lot of experts is second to none. The database is open to the public for viewing (but not rating unless you become a member).

 

There are plenty of other great sites as well but these are the ones that I find give the most consistent advice and info for my needs.

 

Prog on

 

Greg

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