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I have 2 Onkyo amps and cassette or CD players that re both around 30-35 years old which are no longer being used. These are both Japanese made and have been very good systems for what they are.

Call it a disorder but I can't bear to just chuck them. Are they worth anything to anyone?

The first system is a TX-18 amp (30W per ch), a TA-2028 cassette player and I think I have a record player for this one as well. This is the older one, probably bought in 1986.

 

The second system is a TX-840 (60W per ch?) and a DX-2700 cd player, paired with speakers from Eastwood hi-fi called Australian Accoustics. These are a  2-way double 7" bass speaker with a tweeter. Extremely good sound, and if I recall correctly they are a knock off of a high end brand (who's name escapes me). Even run like hell by Pink Floyd doesn't worry them at full noise. This system was bought in about 1992.

 

Interested to hear if they are worth anything or are destined to become landfill.

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Onkyo products had a relatively low profile in the 1980s in Australia, but like Yamaha, Pioneer etc they took their hifi seriously - even their base models were decent (I owned their base level CD player).

 

The two receivers you've mentioned would be lower end of their range (like other brands, Onkyo separated out their amplifier and tuner components for the higher "reference" end). My first guess is that the amplifiers are worth anywhere from $40-$120 each. Not sure about tape decks, I think they are making a bit of a comeback price wise. I'll leave it to other better-informed people comment further on price.  In any case, they're better than landfill! 

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They are certainly worth something (especially if in good working order), and certainly deserve to avoid landfill.  Would be excellent amps for someone on a budget putting together a first system.

 

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18 hours ago, audiofeline said:

They are certainly worth something (especially if in good working order), and certainly deserve to avoid landfill.  Would be excellent amps for someone on a budget putting together a first system.

Totally agree. 

I was working in a hi-fi shop in Canberra when Onkyo was released in Australia to the general market after having been an exclusive brand to Myers which had limited its range and distribution.

It took a bit of time to get some traction in the market and for us as sales people to get comfortable with it. 

The older kit is good, honest, entry level gear from its day. It would be good to dig out the turntable and check out its belt if it is belt drive and have a look at the stylus and cartridge and see if they are intact. They will probably need replacing but that will be worthwhile to a new owner for sure. The cassette deck may need new belts and the clutches may need a little attention, which is probably worthwhile for someone who can do it for themselves or if they don't pay too  much for the deck.

The second set sounds like it has the second model up the range in the amp/receiver as well as the cd player from memory. I think the base models were TX820 and DX1700. There should be at least a separate remote control for the cd player and maybe a system remote control for the receiver.

The speakers should be an excellent proposition for someone on a budget trying to get into better than entry level setup.

So, before you even think about consigning precious equipment to landfill (shudders at the thought), at least consider putting it into Pay it Forward classifieds here or otherwise advertise it in the for sale classifieds for at least a decent donation to SNA.?

19 hours ago, Eggmeister said:

Have a look on hifishark for recent prices

Alternatively, do a bit of research to get an idea of a fair and reasonable price range, give it all a test and clean up, advertise it here and be open to some fair and polite negotiation.

I am sure you will find some buyers who will be happy with their purchases. 

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Definitely tidy them up a little and remove the dust.

 

Its surprising how many sellers don't clean the items they sell.

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I would certainly assume any turntable of this vintage (and quality range) would have a worn stylus.  Many users at this level never bothered to change styli, so there is a high probability that they stylus is worn.  After market styli are easy to find on ebay etc once you have identified your cartridge (the model is most probably visible on it).  Remember that it only takes one playing of a record with a damaged stylus to permanently damage a record. 

 

When you replace the stylus keep and mark the old one (eg. with permanent felt pen) so it can be easiliy differentiated from your good stylus.  The old stylus can be used to play already badly damaged/scratched records (eg. from opshops), so you don't risk damaging your good stylus playing a damaged record. 

 

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30 minutes ago, Igotmearecord said:

...I was working in a hi-fi shop in Canberra when Onkyo was released in Australia to the general market after having been an exclusive brand to Myers which had limited its range and distribution.

It took a bit of time to get some traction in the market and for us as sales people to get comfortable with it...

Yes, in the 1970's I totally dismissed the Onkyo because it was the Myre house brand.  I reasoned at the time "if the brand was any good I would be seeing it in the specialist hifi stores, and what would the generalist department store Myre and their staff know about hifi?".  

 

I have had to reappraise my opinion following posts on SNA which have suggested that their components were at least as good as their equivalent Japanese contemporaries' products. 

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Thanks. I have all the remotes fior the amp and the CD player and linking cables.

The second set was the next level up, I was on a better rate of pay when I bought them, but still cost me around $2,000 each system.

When you say remove the dust do mean wipe over the case or blow out the innards? They have been stored in sealed boxes for the past 15-odd years.

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I would expect that if they were used in a relatively clean domestic environment and stored in their boxes that the innards would be reasonably clean.

 

I think @Eggmeister would be suggesting a gentle wipe-down of the exterior with a damp sponge and maybe a spec of detergent to clean the exterior and remove fingerprints. 

 

There is a lot of gear sold on the secondhand market that is very dirty - kept in garages for years without any covering that become quite filthy (outside and inside).  And very frustrating when it's seen in that condition and is advertised as "mint", and the seller won't acknowledge that it's far from mint.  At least it appears that your gear has been well-cared for. 

 

When you do sell or pass it on, remember to include any documentation (eg. manuals, etc) that you have - it will add value and indicate that you did care for the units.  If you can't find them, it's OK. 

 

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OK, the first three are the later system, as installed.
The last photo (3025) is the older system sitting on top of the box.  I think the turntable is in a cupboard somewhere. Manuals might prove hard to find as I am not that way inclined. 

And the things you find when you take photos... The marking on the speaker cover is the cat who obviously decided many years ago he needed to own my speakers. Can't see it straight on so I'm as surprised as you good people are.

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Amazing what the camera reveals.

Worth giving everything a wipe down. 

On 18/04/2021 at 6:49 PM, audiofeline said:

I think @Eggmeister would be suggesting a gentle wipe-down of the exterior with a damp sponge and maybe a spec of detergent to clean the exterior and remove fingerprints. 

This should work as suggested. Then use a soft polishing cloth perhaps to give it a final wipe over. Don't rub too hard, especially on the perspex/clear plastic parts, as you could leave cleaning/polishing swirls.

The speaker cabinets should clean up quite well. Typically, I would use Mt Sheen and a soft cloth. You might want to try cleaning with a general purpose spray cleaner first to get the bigger marks off. Don't over do any of the sprays.

 

The cat-signatured speaker grille might come up with a bit of careful cleaning. I would typically try some mild detergent such as eucalyptus wool wash in a little warm water and gentle dab the mark with a soft cloth dampened but not soaking wet with the wool mix. You need to avoid getting the grille frame to wet as it  is probably either particle board or mdf and won't like getting too wet. If it doesn't come up looking better or you don't feel like risking it, at least mention it when you are selling so it doesn't come as a surprise to your buyer. 

 

All cleaned up, I think you could ask a reasonable price and expect a sale to a happy new owner or two.  Sorry, but I am not sure of the protocol here about suggesting prices.

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Slightly off-topic but back in the late 70s early 80s I scored an Onkyo portable radio/cassette player - I had never heard of them so I asked in a hi-fi store (might have been West Coast Hifi if they were around back then ?) and the salesman said they were cheap mass produced crap and that Onkyo is just Japanese for Audio !!

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1 hour ago, niterida said:

Slightly off-topic but back in the late 70s early 80s I scored an Onkyo portable radio/cassette player - I had never heard of them so I asked in a hi-fi store (might have been West Coast Hifi if they were around back then ?) and the salesman said they were cheap mass produced crap and that Onkyo is just Japanese for Audio !!

It never ceases to amaze me how often sales people feel the best way of competing with other brands and products is to denigrate or belittle them, especially from a position of ignorance. (I am not suggesting that niterida has done this, rather they are relating an experience where they have experienced this.)

 

Far better to say something accepting of another product and then to promote the features and benefits of the products they are representing.

 

Maybe if it happened enough in this part of real life, politicians, shock jocks, and other media commentators might get the hint and change tacks. One can but dream! 

 

Back to the colour telly and my glass of red.?

 

ps. almost forgot (from Wikipedia)

 

The word Onkyo translates as "sound resonance". On () is from Chinese pronunciation, with traditional Japanese pronunciation as Oto, meaning "the sound". Kyo () is also from Chinese pronunciation, pronounced as Hibiki (noun) or Hibiku (verb) in traditional Japanese, meaning "resound, sound, or echo". The company started under the name of Osaka Denki Onkyo K.K in 1946 (a company not related to Nippon Denki Onkyo, which became Denon).

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Those photos remind me of when I used to study the Onkyo product brochures, having bought the DX-1500 cd player in the late '80s. Thought I'd see if I could find a copy and yep, the product brochures are available here. https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/onkyo/high-fidelity.shtml. Does require a free registration to download which I haven't done yet, so usual caveats about downloading at own risk etc. Looks like a good resource to me though. I'll be having a bit of a nostalgia trip later this weekend ?

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10 hours ago, Tone Malone said:

Those photos remind me of when I used to study the Onkyo product brochures, having bought the DX-1500 cd player in the late '80s. Thought I'd see if I could find a copy and yep, the product brochures are available here. https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/onkyo/high-fidelity.shtml. Does require a free registration to download which I haven't done yet, so usual caveats about downloading at own risk etc. Looks like a good resource to me though. I'll be having a bit of a nostalgia trip later this weekend ?

An excellent site have been down loading from them for years with no problems.

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