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5 hours ago, Tobes said:

Just went back into Roon and noticed than many of the Hi-res titles that have become available in the Qobuz app still aren't available in Roon/Qobuz.

So there may be some Roon server refresh required to play the added Hi-res content.

I've been using the Qobuz app and think it's pretty good - some things I prefer to Roon, but missing some Roon's features. Really nice looking GUI though. 

 

Have now cancelled my Tidal subscription and committed to Qobuz. See ya MQA!

 

It looks like the Hi Res content is gradually updating and becoming available via both the Qobuz app and via the Roon/Qobuz integration.

 

From the Best of 192 playlist which is still updating:

 

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Hello folks,   I've spent a fair bit of time over the last 3 - 4 days comparing Qobuz with Tidal and I find the Qobuz Hi Res files more to my liking compared to the same MQA file delivered v

If Qobuz comes through with a radio service it lifts the game considerably.  I think the Spotify affection is also borne out of the fact it offers suggestions in line with actual listening habits.  Ti

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43 minutes ago, Niktech said:

Does the apps presence now on the respective platforms signify the official launch? I've not seen the usual fanfare that normally occurs with a launch

Looks like it’s flopped over the finish line and is now laying there for all to subscribe. Nice interface, will do some more listening today. Buffering isn’t too bad. Lots of 96Khz albums and smaller but updating amount of 192.  

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1 hour ago, Niktech said:

Does the apps presence now on the respective platforms signify the official launch? I've not seen the usual fanfare that normally occurs with a launch

 

The official "launch" is today in Sydney. I was going originally. 

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21 minutes ago, Marc said:

 

The official "launch" is today in Sydney. I was going originally. 

Wonder why rhey decided to snub the SNA ommunity, seems a strange way to kick things off.

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3 hours ago, Higgsinspace said:

It’s launched here in AU officially, same price as Tidal.  I’ve been doing some A/B and Tidal still sounds marginally better across more genres to my ears. Benefits of smaller files sizes for cellular too.

Studio Premier is $5/mo cheaper than Tidal with the annual subscription.

I've been listening to Qobuz for 2 weeks and found it to sound better across the board than Tidal (talking 16/44 via Qobuz app). 

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53 minutes ago, Tobes said:

I've been listening to Qobuz for 2 weeks and found it to sound better across the board than Tidal (talking 16/44 via Qobuz app). 

 

With my relatively budget gear I also like the sound better across the board. Been on the U.S. catalog for a week and am hoping the placebo effect has worn off!

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@Marc is there any press release for this so called launch or do you know of any webcast etc?

Can't see anything on the Qobuz website/FB/twitter etc.

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Nope nothing as yet. Normally a Press Kit would be given at the launch to attending press.

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Listened to some more today including most of Eagles - Hotel California 40th anniversary edition in HR. It sounded good, but didn't wow me.

 

Overall I have the impression that some Tidal stuff sounds better but it's hard to compare unless you have both services simultaneously. I'm going off memory from months ago, but I just remember some of the stuff on Tidal wowing me.

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I have Tidal now, but 2 years ago I also had Qobuz for a trial period, I couldn't hear much difference between the two, my system has had a few upgrades in the last two years so I will try the trial period again and compare. I also found that Tidal had more obscure Heavy Metal and Rock albums than Qobuz, I will be interested to see if that has changed.

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27 minutes ago, Esoterica said:

Listened to some more today including most of Eagles - Hotel California 40th anniversary edition in HR. It sounded good, but didn't wow me.

 

Overall I have the impression that some Tidal stuff sounds better but it's hard to compare unless you have both services simultaneously. I'm going off memory from months ago, but I just remember some of the stuff on Tidal wowing me.

The truth is that not many of these classic albums have what I'd call great sound. 24/192 isn't going to change that. The format resolution and S/N far outstrips the source material. 

It's ironic that some of the best SQ material on one of the Qobuz Hi-res rock playlists is in 16/44. Which is fine of course.

 

Listening to Supertramp's Crime of the Century in 24/192 at the moment - sounds pretty darn good for a 1974 rock album, as good as I've heard it.

I must admit I feel a bit like a kid in a candy store - so much fabulous hi-res music at my fingertips. 

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I have both Tidal and Qobuz and yesterday have done quick comparison. I have picked two track (Chantal Chamberalnd - Temptation and Roger Waters - Three wishes), it seems to me that Tidal is slightly better, with voices clearer and stand more. Will try again tonight.

 

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I think both Tidal and Qobuz are very good sounding.

In my setup Qobuz resolved more sense of space/atmosphere - particularly in sparse acoustic material - and had a bit more texture and focus. But if I was listening to Tidal in isolation I'd be more than satisfied.

For me the tipping points were more/better playlists and focus on the music I prefer, better GUI of  the Qobuz app and the native hi-res pcm instead of MQA (More Questions than Answers).

Oh, forgot to add, I'm a Neil Young fan so........

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Im a Spotify fan for its overall usability.....but have had Qobuz over 12 months now and Tidal (through a friends family plan for longer). Premoninately I listen to metal.  Qobuz has upped its game on the metal library over the last 12 months considerably.

It reminds me alot of Tidal 18months or so ago where albums are in a bit of a hotch potch order (not via release date or chronological) and you'll find non metal artists with same name in metal bands library,  I am sure this is also relevant for other genres!!   Tidal was riddled with this and on occassion still is. ....

Still though, for the most part on Qobuz its all organised just lacking chronological order.   Most artists I am chasing are there and even some more obscure ones I wasnt expecting I found that Spotify/Tidal don't have.... 

 

Qobuz certainly doesnt flood you with Tidal like recommendations, it doesn't have artist or song radio, it doesnt have autoplay, it doesn't have a mix made of faves, they do have a few playlists nowadays including metal but not the depth of Spotify or even Tidal.  That that aside, I do like Qobuz and will stick with it as my system has componants that work better with Hi-Res as opposed to MQA - and I do have the BlueSound Node 2i which decodes MQA.  (I'll steer clear of MQA arguments and thoughts on Tidal altering EQ for increased bass etc as I've nothing to substantiate other than what I read.)

 

All in all for the above system componant compatiblity reasons, I use Qobuz more than Tidal but do I hear a difference? Not sure TBH  At 24/192 things do sound great, no question but at 16/44 I cannot honestly say.  As I mentioned in an earlier post, if your DAC works with Hi-Res why not use it to its intented design?  Thats what Qobuz allows me to with my DACs.  

 

Its probable streaming services could end up like discussions of speakers, amps, cartridges, DACs and phono stages or worse yet cables and powercables hahaha.  People will be drawn to what they interpret sounds best or has the best needs for them and their genre/s - which is the fundamental idea of a streaming service IMO anyway.  Not to drag this into a "VS" war either but mentioned above is some love for Deezer which I didnt take to at all a year or so ago.

 

This is why I still have Spotify premium family for on the go and in the car etc and Qobuz for sitting and listening.  I will always stand by the point that to me Spotify has the features, the library, the recommendations and the filing to embarrass the others - It will be interesting to see what happens when Spotify goes Hi-Fi or will people hate on it because its Spotify and not boutique?  Not sure.

I guess its watch this space but in the meantime its costing many interested people $0 to trial Qobuz and form an opinion which is great.

 

Having spent over a year with Qobuz I know it works well for me and I like what I hear.   I've had Spotify and Tidal for slightly longer with Deezer for a number of months inbetween. 

Bottom line is that they all work perfectly fine, maybe its a question of do you prefer Rosella tomato sauce or Masterfoods tomato sauce?!

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A quick head to head with Tidal today and sonically I’m leaning towards  Qobuz, for my system it seems to be an improvement anyways and it was good fun to crank “The Plan” from the Tenet soundtrack again, Tidal dropped it a while back, that song damn near loads up my entire house with luscious juicy bass?

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So did the Qobuz AU launch event actually happen today?

Doesn't seem to be news of it anywhere, so I'm guessing not?

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28 minutes ago, Tobes said:

So did the Qobuz AU launch event actually happen today?

Doesn't seem to be news of it anywhere, so I'm guessing not?

Marc posted earlier that it launched in Sydney today. Makes you wonder who attended...

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Does this have a feature like Spotify Connect where I can control Qobuz on my HTPC from my phone? I don't mean similar to Musicast or BluOS as neither of those work as good as Connect.

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18 minutes ago, Rakalel said:

Does this have a feature like Spotify Connect where I can control Qobuz on my HTPC from my phone? I don't mean similar to Musicast or BluOS as neither of those work as good as Connect.

 

It has Connect.

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22 minutes ago, sir sanders zingmore said:

anyone else seeing this in Roon?

The album say 44k / 16bit but the individual signal path says 96/242008191154_ScreenShot2021-04-14at9_11_28pm.png.8d245b04940dc57d610dd7306501cc1e.png

 

I suspect that this will update in time. Roon has to pull the information from Qobuz over the Qobuz API which would be very busy about now with the launch.

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I just tried signing up for Qobuz again tonight knowing that it was due soon and after an initial message saying it wasn't available, it redirected to a local, Aus version of the site and I could sign up. I'm now listening to glorious true hi-res (no MQA here!) and rebuilding all my Tidal playlists. So far only 2 albums missing (Thirsty Merc AAA and any Israel Kamakawiwo'Ole).

 

I'm loving the fact that I no longer have you carefully select the MQA or non- MQA version of each album, just deluxe or remastered versions. It makes it much easier to select the album I want

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Just now, Stereophilus said:

Oh yeah! Just signed up... streaming on the 1 month free trial.

Excellent! I will have to swap over my UK account!

 

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3 hours ago, hammerharry said:

Virtually unplayable tonight per iOS app, YouTube 1080p videos playing without issue?

Yeah I'm getting some bad buffering on 24/192 material.

Had no trouble earlier in the day, so I suspect teething issues. I recall Tidal went through the same problems when they started up in Oz.

PITA though. 

My subscription to Tidal ends on 15/04 and I had cancelled the renewal, but may have to re-think if Qobuz issues persist.

Was listening to Miles Davis' Sorcerer and sounding great in 24/192 - only 16/44 available on Tidal. 

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Has anyone used the iOS  Qobuz app in CarPlay mode yet?  If so, did it work?

 

i’ve tried It on 2 different iPhone models (iPhone 6s and 8 and it  opens up but I don’t get any listing of artist, album, tracks, playlists etc.  I get the horizontal menu giving me those options but no content, no lists etc.

 

and yes I have loaded up my Qobuz account with albums and playlists,

 

my tidal app works well, the Plexamp app works well and all my artists, playlists etc all load up and are displayed in those apps.  But not in Qobuz.

 

any ideas?

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I have signed up for the the trial and they took my payment details it’s linked to my roon core but In roon the songs come up but with no format options, 

im using ROCK on a NUC and just control through ISO on phone 

 

It is working on my computer with the Qobuz app

 

When I went to sing in/up it said I already had a user name but I don’t remember singing up previously 

 

so I guess full launch in near by......? 

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Had a listen to several selections on QOBUZ last night. I am mainly a jazz and classical devotee. While I absorbed La Traviata (Decca; Sutherland; Kenneth Wilkinson, sound engineer) at home in 16/44 resolution, my wife and daughter watched it live on Sydney Harbour. Very good. Starting slowly.

 

Then it was on to some late night listening of the recently released Mozart-Jones Violin Sonata Fragments on Channel Classics in 24/192.  Bach's Magnificat. Spectacular. The only thing missing was some French champagne and hors d'oeuvres.

 

I'm playing through a Cambridge CXN into a Leben preamplifier and Line Magnetic 845 SET; TEKTON Perfect SET 15 speakers.

 

The 24/96 output is also similarly engrossing. I can't reliably tell the difference from 24/192. Even the 16/44 is outstanding if the recording is a great one (never thought I'd praise mere CD quality but too much Spotify has poisoned the well of appreciation). If I'm going to really enjoy digital it is because it sounds like what I'm hearing now from QOBUZ. I can't wait to explore the back catalogue of gems I see listed here; I know what I'll be doing now over the next month..

 

I like MQA but who cares if there's this quality 'on tap'?

 

QOBUZ is like discovering a new museum or library or shop devoted to all your favourite amusements. This is the kind of business I would have organised for myself, had I any such ability. It's actually what I expected originally from streaming services some years ago--but found myself in a grizzling minority as mass uptake of low fidelity and earbuds and 'convenience music' prevailed.

 

What I am struck by when using my system is the more 'atmospheric' reproduction (sense of space and depth), and the additional clarity (I am comparing with Spotify, but really I have the standard of natural reproduced music as I know it in mind). Possibly the whole upper midrange has been burnished with slightly richer harmonics in a musical way? I heard new detail in old, familiar recordings--always a thrill. But I knew that mp3 quality would never float my boat, nor am I waiting for Spotify to discover and list excellent classical performances! I liked it mainly for new and obscure music. 

 

Tidal is very good indeed when I am in a pop-rock mood. However, I'm sure my own popular music favourites all there somewhere in the QOBUZ catalogue.

 

In summary, I find QOBUZ encourages serious listening, has a wonderful depth of catalogue and the relaxing effect of satisfying fidelity. At last. This is going to interfere with using my turntable quite a bit, I think. 

 

I'm happy to give them my money on these terms. I can add QOBUZ to the long list of things French that I find pursue excellence.

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I must say I really like the desktop app. Easy to navigate and really interesting reading and articles. 
Yet to explore them”recommended artists” functionality. 
 

Does anyone know if there is a “radio” function?

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7 minutes ago, sir sanders zingmore said:

I must say I really like the desktop app. Easy to navigate and really interesting reading and articles. 
Yet to explore them”recommended artists” functionality. 
 

Does anyone know if there is a “radio” function?

 

No radio function in Qobuz. Roon will keep playing tracks though.

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9 minutes ago, sir sanders zingmore said:

Does anyone know if there is a “radio” function?

Pretty sure there is no radio function. Luckily Roon does this for me.

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I'm an Android user - sorry. Seems to work well in Android Auto from very limited testing, but they're obviously very different platforms.

 

Speaking of platforms, can anyone else in Aus find Qobuz as a service in their Sonos app? I can't add it for some reason.

 

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It seems the iOS Qobuz app only plays imported or downloaded music and does not stream when in CarPlay mode.  This is from various pages I have found - but are about 18 months old.  I haven’t found anything newer.

 

is this true - if so it sucks big time.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

not happy if this is so....

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41 minutes ago, sir sanders zingmore said:

I must say I really like the desktop app.

 

The iPad app is nice, too. It appears to be a native app with all the performance, functionality and UX advantages this entails. Unlike the horrible cross-platform monster that Roon seems to think is good enough...

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Soundiiz wanted a subscription to transfer multiple playlists.

 

Tunemymusic did not. Currently I am at 13% transfer of 28,276 files (that took 20 minutes)

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