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I've just been surfing my collection, jumping around...and as a bass nut I gravitated to songs that have great mid bass slam - really punch you in the chest mid bass without requiring excessive volume...many great tracks...

 

Fleetwood Mac's "Gypsy" off the CD compilation album "The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac" has the most amazing bass slam...it's become my favourite track for mid-bass...

 

What's your's?

one track only - pick your favourite.

 

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For mid-bass (not deep bass) and for testing if a system has good accuracy in that region (not just loud mid-bass!), Dire Straits Ride Across the River.  

Stepping outside of the 70s and 80s, there were these guys weirding up the radio in the 90s.     While Les will dip into sub bass on his fretless, Primus were the masters of t

Lots of great suggestions here already, with Grand Funk Railroad's track 'Winter and My soul' just added to my 2021 New Discoveries playlist.  I have lots of favourites within FM catalogue, but f

1 minute ago, almikel said:

What's your's?

Hmm, not elevator music like FM's Rumours that's for sure.

I'll see your wishy washy muzak and raise you some late 60's early 70's  bass heavy music from Grand Funk Railroad's first album and the track 'Winter and My soul' with the immortal opening stanza which includes the words; "winter is coming" and yes that little bearded gnome George R.R.Martin is certainly old enough to have heard the song.

 

Bass that encapsulates the listener in a warm and aggressive pummelling with the wick turned up.

 

If played in an elevator, most passengers would run screaming from the first floor they arrived at if they were still conscious such is it's visceral nature.

 

 

and look you...who did the 3 piece band decide to put front and centre on their first album cover?

 

Yup...the bass player who else!

 

Play this back to back to FM and you'll be using Rumours as a frisbee.

 

 

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4xnojjprNF0/TDDtcFeIu-I/AAAAAAAACEo/DXa7Wb1lagc/s1600/GRAND+FUNK+RAILROAD+-+GRAND+FUNK+A.jpg

 

 

😜

 

I am of course having some fun at FM's expense, I know people like them but then people like P76's.

 

Bite me!

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1 hour ago, Luc said:

Hmm, not elevator music like FM's Rumours that's for sure.

I'll see your wishy washy muzak and raise you some late 60's early 70's  bass heavy music from Grand Funk Railroad's first album and the track 'Winter and My soul' with the immortal opening stanza which includes the words; "winter is coming" and yes that little bearded gnome George R.R.Martin is certainly old enough to have heard the song.

 

Bass that encapsulates the listener in a warm and aggressive pummelling with the wick turned up.

 

If played in an elevator, most passengers would run screaming from the first floor they arrived at if they were still conscious such is it's visceral nature.

 

 

and look you...who did the 3 piece band decide to put front and centre on their first album cover?

 

Yup...the bass player who else!

 

Play this back to back to FM and you'll be using Rumours as a frisbee.

 

 

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4xnojjprNF0/TDDtcFeIu-I/AAAAAAAACEo/DXa7Wb1lagc/s1600/GRAND+FUNK+RAILROAD+-+GRAND+FUNK+A.jpg

 

 

😜

 

I am of course having some fun at FM's expense, I know people like them but then people like P76's.

 

Bite me!

 

Oh yeah!!!!

 

 

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@LogicprObe  Aint it just fantastic !!!

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1 hour ago, almikel said:

I've just been surfing my collection, jumping around...and as a bass nut I gravitated to songs that have great mid bass slam - really punch you in the chest mid bass without requiring excessive volume...many great tracks...

 

Fleetwood Mac's "Gypsy" off the CD compilation album "The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac" has the most amazing bass slam...it's become my favourite track for mid-bass...

 

What's your's?

one track only - pick your favourite.

 

Mike

 

Sorry, Mike ... but wtf is "mid bass"?

  • 50Hz-100Hz?
  • 100Hz - 200 Hz?
  • 200Hz - 300Hz?

 

Andy

 

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10 minutes ago, Luc said:

@LogicprObe  Aint it just fantastic !!!

 

My Missus is older than me and asked............'Who's this? It's great!'

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There's a couple of great vids from that period and I'm sure you've seen them. Absolute raw raw power from three young guys who just blitzed it. You'd know and a few others, just how big they became in the early 70's ....  YUGE!!!

First two albums the best but the later albums still held some gems. Their version of the Stone's 'Gimme Shelter'   fantastic.

The one charting song in Aus? Lol...it was Kylie's song to...The Locomotion. (They'd already lost me before that). We're an American Band was ok too but those first two albums...bam!!

 

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2 hours ago, Luc said:

Hmm, not elevator music like FM's Rumours that's for sure.

I'll see your wishy washy muzak and raise you some late 60's early 70's  bass heavy music from Grand Funk Railroad's first album and the track 'Winter and My soul' with the immortal opening stanza which includes the words; "winter is coming" and yes that little bearded gnome George R.R.Martin is certainly old enough to have heard the song.

 

Bass that encapsulates the listener in a warm and aggressive pummelling with the wick turned up.

 

If played in an elevator, most passengers would run screaming from the first floor they arrived at if they were still conscious such is it's visceral nature.

 

 

and look you...who did the 3 piece band decide to put front and centre on their first album cover?

 

Yup...the bass player who else!

 

Play this back to back to FM and you'll be using Rumours as a frisbee.

 

 

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4xnojjprNF0/TDDtcFeIu-I/AAAAAAAACEo/DXa7Wb1lagc/s1600/GRAND+FUNK+RAILROAD+-+GRAND+FUNK+A.jpg

 

 

😜

 

I am of course having some fun at FM's expense, I know people like them but then people like P76's.

 

Bite me!

back at the laptop listening on a boom box, not the main system - they sound great - I'll check them out!

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1 hour ago, andyr said:

 

Sorry, Mike ... but wtf is "mid bass"?

  • 50Hz-100Hz?
  • 100Hz - 200 Hz?
  • 200Hz - 300Hz?

 

Andy

 

well in this thread as per the OP that would be bass that hits you in the chest - so around 100Hz or so - choose your own +/- margin.

Pick your favourite track that has chest thumping bass - which won't likely be low bass.

 

It's all in the mix/mastering of the track...for some reason Fleetwood Mac nail it lots - probably as Mick Fleetwood was the drummer...

...there's also awesome mid-bass in early Phil Collins albums - another drummer...

 

I love the mid bass slam, which I accept is mostly drums/percussion, but can also be a popping bass line.

I also appreciate a great bass line - it just doesn't necessarily hit you in the chest....which is what this thread is about...

 

...as an example Led Zep had one of the greatest drummers of all time - John Bonham - but none of their albums I own has any bass slam - it wasn't in the mix/master.

I love Led Zep and listen to them all the time - but there's no bass slam.

 

OTH, the Feelies version of VU's "What Goes On" has loads of bass slam - best cover ever.

 

Mike

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4 hours ago, Luc said:

I am of course having some fun at FM's expense, I know people like them but then people like P76's.

Lol - I love Rumours, and Tusk and the bluesy era of Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green (RIP), and both the FM and the Santana versions of Black Magic Woman, and both the FM and the Smashing Pumpkins' versions of Landslide.

I also like Neil Diamond - IMHO Hot August Night is one of the greatest live albums of all time.

 

I agree P76's were shite - Leyland after all

 

4 hours ago, Luc said:

I'll see your wishy washy muzak and raise you some late 60's early 70's  bass heavy music from Grand Funk Railroad

I'll have a listen as you suggest - they sound great on the boom box connected to the laptop...but IME old recordings were never mixed for clean/tight bass slam...

 

Interestingly Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk" doesn't have the same "crispness"/attack that "Gypsy" has, but "The Chain" from Rumours gets close, and "Sarah" off the same compilation as "Gypsy" has almost as much bass slam as Gypsy - it's all in the mix.

 

"Yellow Brick Road" by Angus and Julia Stone is another great "hit you in the chest" track, as is "Telegraph Road" by Dire Straits...Tracy Chapman...

...I'm sure there's lots of great rock tracks also - I can't get past the Feelies version of the Velvet Underground's "What Goes On" - great bass slam

 

Mike

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6 hours ago, almikel said:

well in this thread as per the OP that would be bass that hits you in the chest - so around 100Hz or so - choose your own +/- margin.

Mike

 

Thanks, Mike.

 

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9 hours ago, Pops110 said:

This will give your bass a workout.

 

 

 

The dynamic range on this recording is superb. Just need to be a bit careful with the volume level.

 

 

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Stepping outside of the 70s and 80s, there were these guys weirding up the radio in the 90s.

 

 

While Les will dip into sub bass on his fretless, Primus were the masters of that explosive circa 100Hz slam, especially live. 

 

Such a strange band (basically all soloists in their own right) who were ridiculously tight live and played some of the most obtuse music of their time.

 

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I have all their albums and don't know the names of any of their songs. But just close your eyes and throw a dart at any Rammstein album, there's chest thumping goodness in all of them.

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Lots of great suggestions here already, with Grand Funk Railroad's track 'Winter and My soul' just added to my 2021 New Discoveries playlist. 

I have lots of favourites within FM catalogue, but for the purpose of this discussion I'll throw in something out of left field with from Piers Faccini second album Tearing Skies, the track title is: Sharpening Bone

The kick in the gut starts at 0:20 and really turns it up around 3:20 towards the end, closing with some majestic drum beats.

The whole album is a fine example of Piers Faccini's amazing musicality.

 

 

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For mid-bass (not deep bass) and for testing if a system has good accuracy in that region (not just loud mid-bass!), Dire Straits Ride Across the River.  

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On 05/04/2021 at 9:15 PM, LogicprObe said:

 

Oh yeah!!!!

 

 

 that is amazing - will seek them out - pure rock power and energy...it could be youtube/age of the recording/era of the recording, but it's lacking the "crispness" I'm talking about, although an awesome track with a great bass line.

 

15 hours ago, Willmax said:

Lots of great suggestions here already, with Grand Funk Railroad's track 'Winter and My soul' just added to my 2021 New Discoveries playlist. 

I have lots of favourites within FM catalogue, but for the purpose of this discussion I'll throw in something out of left field with from Piers Faccini second album Tearing Skies, the track title is: Sharpening Bone

The kick in the gut starts at 0:20 and really turns it up around 3:20 towards the end, closing with some majestic drum beats.

The whole album is a fine example of Piers Faccini's amazing musicality.

 

 

 

yeah that's what I'm talking about - clean/crisp bass, and I accept most of the attack/hit in the chest stuff is percussion (including snare) not bass guitar...

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, mfforever said:

All time bass classics..... Massive Attack  ANGEL

I love Massive Attack, and that track has great bass, but not "hit you in the chest" bass...maybe at nightclub volume...

 

1 hour ago, mfforever said:

and Lamb GABRIEL

nice track - I've never listened to them before, thanks...but no bass slam

 

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On 05/04/2021 at 9:35 PM, Pops110 said:

This will give your bass a workout.

 

 

In terms of pure violence I can't think of a better track than this. A SNA member recently played this through a big pair of JBL's at seriously insane volumes. Very few speakers could handle the dynamics of this at volume....very few......

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12 minutes ago, kelossus said:

In terms of pure violence I can't think of a better track than this. A SNA member recently played this through a big pair of JBL's at seriously insane volumes. Very few speakers could handle the dynamics of this at volume....very few......

I only just had it played to me recently and it’s an awesome track to test the speakers for sure. I think everyone I’ve played it to on my system has been impressed. 👍

You wouldn’t think the pissy little bass drivers in my speakers could handle it but they do. Definitely not at insane volumes though. 😁

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33 minutes ago, Pops110 said:

I only just had it played to me recently and it’s an awesome track to test the speakers for sure. I think everyone I’ve played it to on my system has been impressed. 👍

You wouldn’t think the pissy little bass drivers in my speakers could handle it but they do. Definitely not at insane volumes though. 😁

I would say it the loudest I have ever heard stereo go, 110db+ peaks easily. It was terrifying yet enjoyable. I had to shower as soon as I got home.

 

I have cranked my speakers up that loud before but only for brief periods during a big crescendo. This was for 10 whole minutes.

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Devil Inside - INXS

 

If you want mid-bass without the low-bass, this track will get you there, and get your toes tapping too!  

 

 

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On 05/04/2021 at 9:35 PM, Pops110 said:

This will give your bass a workout.

 

 

I must admit I'm not into drum solos - so I skipped through it - mostly too low in freq for bass slam, and even the sticks lacked impact...

 

On 06/04/2021 at 7:24 AM, emesbee said:

The dynamic range on this recording is superb. Just need to be a bit careful with the volume level.

agreed - a bit like Danley's fireworks recordings, crackle/thump, crackle/thump, BOOM - woofer poled 😒

49 minutes ago, kelossus said:

In terms of pure violence I can't think of a better track than this. A SNA member recently played this through a big pair of JBL's at seriously insane volumes. Very few speakers could handle the dynamics of this at volume....very few......

I would disagree in the context of this thread - it's a great track with amazing dynamics, but the nature of the instruments (large bass drums) don't provide visceral impact (kick you in the chest) until you up the volume lots, even with the sticks playing along.

Maybe it's the Youtube recording - but the bass sounds a bit muddy - certainly not tight and crisp

 

This thread is about clean/tight/crisp mid bass - and I completely accept that the "attack" of bass instruments (eg a kick drum) will be lower than instruments tuned for higher frequencies (eg a snare drum), but a bass guitarist can still provide that chest thump when the bassist chooses to "pop" the strings (as "popping" the string adds higher harmonics).

58 minutes ago, kelossus said:

I would say it the loudest I have ever heard stereo go, 110db+ peaks easily. It was terrifying yet enjoyable. I had to shower as soon as I got home.

 

I have cranked my speakers up that loud before but only for brief periods during a big crescendo. This was for 10 whole minutes.

This thread is not about insane volumes - it's about feeling the bass in the chest at reasonable volumes.

 

I do run 18"mid bass drivers, which work great - they hardly seem to move :)

 

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49 minutes ago, almikel said:

I must admit I'm not into drum solos - so I skipped through it - mostly too low in freq for bass slam, and even the sticks lacked impact...

 

agreed - a bit like Danley's fireworks recordings, crackle/thump, crackle/thump, BOOM - woofer poled 😒

I would disagree in the context of this thread - it's a great track with amazing dynamics, but the nature of the instruments (large bass drums) don't provide visceral impact (kick you in the chest) until you up the volume lots, even with the sticks playing along.

Maybe it's the Youtube recording - but the bass sounds a bit muddy - certainly not tight and crisp

 

This thread is about clean/tight/crisp mid bass - and I completely accept that the "attack" of bass instruments (eg a kick drum) will be lower than instruments tuned for higher frequencies (eg a snare drum), but a bass guitarist can still provide that chest thump when the bassist chooses to "pop" the strings (as "popping" the string adds higher harmonics).

This thread is not about insane volumes - it's about feeling the bass in the chest at reasonable volumes.

 

I do run 18"mid bass drivers, which work great - they hardly seem to move :)

 

Mike

Fair enough. I would call it mid-bass but I suppose everyone's interpretation is different.

 

A track having a mid-bass slam at low volumes is not always a good thing. Turn it up and it sounds down right distracting.

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41 minutes ago, almikel said:

I must admit I'm not into drum solos - so I skipped through it - mostly too low in freq for bass slam, and even the sticks lacked impact...

 

agreed - a bit like Danley's fireworks recordings, crackle/thump, crackle/thump, BOOM - woofer poled 😒

I would disagree in the context of this thread - it's a great track with amazing dynamics, but the nature of the instruments (large bass drums) don't provide visceral impact (kick you in the chest) until you up the volume lots, even with the sticks playing along.

Maybe it's the Youtube recording - but the bass sounds a bit muddy - certainly not tight and crisp

 

This thread is about clean/tight/crisp mid bass - and I completely accept that the "attack" of bass instruments (eg a kick drum) will be lower than instruments tuned for higher frequencies (eg a snare drum), but a bass guitarist can still provide that chest thump when the bassist chooses to "pop" the strings (as "popping" the string adds higher harmonics).

This thread is not about insane volumes - it's about feeling the bass in the chest at reasonable volumes.

 

I do run 18"mid bass drivers, which work great - they hardly seem to move :)

 

Mike

Not something I would normally listen to, but it’s mighty impressive on my system.

Our systems must be completely different then because i thought it ticks all the boxes. 🤷‍♂️

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16 hours ago, kelossus said:

Fair enough. I would call it mid-bass but I suppose everyone's interpretation is different.

 

A track having a mid-bass slam at low volumes is not always a good thing. Turn it up and it sounds down right distracting.

 

I played it and watched it through the JRiver Analyser. The biggest energy is between 40 to 80Hz (low bass) but quite a bit from 80 to 200Hz (mid bass?).

 

From the Poem of Chinese Drum I got recommeded the following from Youtube and if it don't get the chest pumping then I don't know what will. 😏

 

 

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Red Hot Chilli Peppers "Otherside" off the Californication album. But has to be played on your system, lappy speakers won't cut it.

 

 

Sounded even better live at one of the Big Day Out concerts, many years ago. And they were sharing free cigarettes in the crowd...

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3 hours ago, warweary said:

 

Classic, takes me back to my first stereo and realizing just how well recorded some of the older stuff was.

 

I have commented in this thread but haven't put forth a track yet. Your post reminded me of another track I would play. From the pumped up 80's sound snare to the bass groove.

 

 

 

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