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In my bar area Im using an Ipad with Itunes as a source with music from my CD's ripped in the FLAC setting

 

Is this a decent way of listening or am I doing myself a disservice?

 

System is Musical Fidelity MS5i amp going to Monitor Audio Gold 100 speakers.

Ive got a Gieseler Kompakt DAC coming for the system as well

 

Cheers

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An iPad certainly isn't the best storage/player, but it'll certainly do the job. When you decide to upgrade there are much more expensive options that may actually sound a bit better.

There are plenty of high-end systems using headless Mac Mini computers and software players other than iTunes.

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8 hours ago, Mendes said:

@Brad24 ..... sorry to get off topic, ....but, is that your XW.....nice ?

XT mate, yeah it’s mine, my other expensive hobby

 

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7 minutes ago, Brad24 said:

XT mate, yeah it’s mine, my other expensive hobby

 

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Looks like it has plates, does it get driven on the roads?

If so, must be a sleeper ?10 second 1/4’s by look of the front of the ground launch?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Mendes said:

Looks like it has plates, does it get driven on the roads?

If so, must be a sleeper ?10 second 1/4’s by look of the front of the ground launch?

 

 

Yeah it’s licenced, I don’t drive it on the road much

Its ran 9.48@141.6

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Just now, Brad24 said:

Yeah it’s licenced, I don’t drive it on the road much

Its ran 9.48@141.6

Wow, that’s cool. Sorry to have gotten off topic ?, one more question (was a rev head in my youth and drag raced at Ravenswood in the day) does it have 302 Cleveland or some other exotic engine?

Again, Sorry to get off topic......??

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27 minutes ago, Mendes said:

Wow, that’s cool. Sorry to have gotten off topic ?, one more question (was a rev head in my youth and drag raced at Ravenswood in the day) does it have 302 Cleveland or some other exotic engine?

Again, Sorry to get off topic......??

It’s a 440 cube clevor

so Cleveland heads on a Windsor bottom end

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Start by trying a few different ipad music players like VLC, Onkyo HF player and Flac Player +.

If you can hear anything different, cool which is better is personal preference - I prefer VLC on the iPad.

 

 

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On 30/03/2021 at 10:50 PM, GregWormald said:

When you decide to upgrade there are much more expensive options that may actually sound a bit better.

 

This is the best and most truthful thing ive read in a long time.... for spending MUCH MUCH more money you might get something that sounds a bit better..

 

iPad is fine dude, and the Apple DAC dongle is surprisingly good.

 

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You can use the camera connection kit to connect it via USB to the DAC, how is it connected now? 

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3 hours ago, JCM said:

You can use the camera connection kit to connect it via USB to the DAC, how is it connected now? 

Yeah mate, with the camera connection kit

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Nice I found it worked really well with Spotify could plug the IPad in and control remotely with phone sounded heaps better than using air play via Appel TV, 

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18 hours ago, JCM said:

You can use the camera connection kit to connect it via USB to the DAC, how is it connected now? 

This is what you meant yeah?

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Yeah mate that’s it ?

you can actually set it up via home sharing to access your library on another computer too, 

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9 minutes ago, JCM said:

Yeah mate that’s it ?

you can actually set it up via home sharing to access your library on another computer too, 

Yeah ok

interesting 

Ill have a google

cheers

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3 hours ago, JCM said:

Sweet bar system BTW when do you get the Grob, 

What’s a Grob?

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I don't recommend iTunes as a decoder if sound quality is your priority and you have the files. I found their decoder has artifacts if you listen closely, it is inferior to MS Groove's excellent work.  Onkyo is way better at decoding, on iPad. On a Windows PC, jetAudio if you want free player. JRiver is even better but costs.

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On 16/04/2021 at 2:14 PM, Dropbear67 said:

 

This is the best and most truthful thing ive read in a long time.... for spending MUCH MUCH more money you might get something that sounds a bit better..

 

iPad is fine dude, and the Apple DAC dongle is surprisingly good.

 

Well I just purchased a camera kit for my phone and iPad to try, directly connected to my RME ADI2. Just for kicks. 

Yes sound comes out, but my RPI via USB, and RPI with PI2aes hat via SPDIF sound clearly better. The delta is not small. 
 

The PI2aes hat is only $150usd. 
The hat/setup easily competes with $2500k + sources. 
 

I used the Tidal app on the iPad/phone for testing. 
Roon/Ropieee/Tidal via RPI setup. 

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IPad is the simplest thing to use on the bar.

I use VLC on wav files but I used to use it to control the Squeezebox Touch but the delay through my wireless network was annoying.

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3 hours ago, LogicprObe said:

 

IPad is the simplest thing to use on the bar.

I use VLC on wav files but I used to use it to control the Squeezebox Touch but the delay through my wireless network was annoying.

 

Pi2aes has a 7inch case available. 

Making essentially the same solution running Ropieee. 

If sound quality is a primary concern, this solution would be ideal. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Brad24 said:

Care do explain what a PI2aes hat does? 

 

 

 

Pi2aes, provides isolated outputs from a RPI.

Outputs include: Aes, Spdif, I2s, it allows you to bypass USB.  

The combo provides an extremely low jitter streamer. 

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/pi2aes-digital-audio-shield-for-the-raspberry-pi.7136/

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Grizaudio said:

 

Pi2aes, provides isolated outputs from a RPI.

Outputs include: Aes, Spdif, I2s, it allows you to bypass USB.  

The combo provides an extremely low jitter streamer. 

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/pi2aes-digital-audio-shield-for-the-raspberry-pi.7136/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Simple is better for a bar.

I had mine on a stand and would stick it on the lazy susan so it could spin to the next person whose turn it was to choose a song.

Guests don't want or need complicated.

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19 hours ago, LogicprObe said:

 

Simple is better for a bar.

I had mine on a stand and would stick it on the lazy susan so it could spin to the next person whose turn it was to choose a song.

Guests don't want or need complicated.

Spot on mate, thats the reason I went away from a CD player & went to the Itunes in the first place

 

But dont get me wrong, Fellas I appreciate the pointers

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1 hour ago, Grizaudio said:

Whats more simple than an app on the phone? 

 

 

Can't see anything on a phone!

That's why ipad is good!

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1 minute ago, LogicprObe said:

 

Can't see anything on a phone!

That's why ipad is good!

especially after a time in the bar

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Lol, 

 

I meant running an app on the phone or iPad connected to a RPI or similar. 
 

If your happy thats what matters. 
Enjoy the music. 
 

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