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Well it's been a long time coming after like the prodigal son, or two in this case.

So long story short, nearly a year and a half ago at one of my GTGs the tunes were gently massaging the attendees. As the day progressed there was a mishap with a bass driver which ended in tears (mine).

Then as things would have it, we had that year from hell. Much audio related industry stopped around the world, yes the audio gods can have a cruel way of doing things sometimes.

Anyhow finally the parts arrived and my subs could be rebuilt.

The boys from SGR arrived for the reassembly. Piece by piece box by box the towers grew. This time though atop of some massive outriggers, heavy duty versions of SGRs award wining audio racking.

 

But sadly my temporary speakers, Martin Logan Monoliths are moving on.

Their transparent midrange will most certainly be missed, a stunning speaker at low to moderate volumes.

But with scale and dynamics and sheer excitement Illuminators they are not.

 

 


 

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Well it's been a long time coming after like the prodigal son, or two in this case. So long story short, nearly a year and a half ago at one of my GTGs the tunes were gently massaging the attende

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Oh a quick pic of the near field response measurements.

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Oh a quick pic of the near field response measurements.

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Thats what i like about SGR, Stuart and team are pretty hands on.  Years ago i thought i had a problem with my left CX4F plate amp overheating and safety was kicking in from time to time.  Quick call to SGR and Stuart rocked up to give it check up.  Took the plate amp back and ran it over 3 days, and reported nothing wrong with it.  Long story short, I worked out it was my preamp xlr output that was overheating it.  :) 

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6 minutes ago, joz said:

Oh a quick pic of the near field response measurements.

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Wow, pretty flat response above 90dbs... 

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Wow gorgeous speakers you've got there and it looks like they don't wimp out at the bottom either!

 

What do you drive them with?

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55 minutes ago, joz said:

So long story short, nearly a year and a half ago at one of my GTGs the tunes were gently massaging the attendees. 

 

 

 

Lol, yeah, gently...  

 

I can't believe it's taken so long, so frustrating for everyone involved.  Great to see it all being resolved professionally though, a big thumbs up.

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1 hour ago, realysm42 said:

Wow gorgeous speakers you've got there and it looks like they don't wimp out at the bottom either!

 

What do you drive them with?

 

Thanks.

They are being driven by 8 Channels of Elektra amplification.

One 2 Channel Reference HD and a Multichannel HD.

 

With room gain and a gentle boost by me😁 the bass is certainly not rolling off like in the near field graph. 

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1 hour ago, Kaynin said:

 

 

Lol, yeah, gently...  

 

I can't believe it's taken so long, so frustrating for everyone involved.  Great to see it all being resolved professionally though, a big thumbs up.

Yea! gently😁

Sooooo long, 2020 the year that kept giving.

Stuart and the guys were great, the install is so much more than unpacking a box and placing them insitu.

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@joz That centre doesnt look like it does the Illuminator's justice... perhaps SGR can custom build a matching illuminator centre? lol

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2 hours ago, joz said:

Well it's been a long time coming after like the prodigal son, or two in this case.

So long story short, nearly a year and a half ago at one of my GTGs the tunes were gently massaging the attendees. As the day progressed there was a mishap with a bass driver which ended in tears (mine).

Then as things would have it, we had that year from hell. Much audio related industry stopped around the world, yes the audio gods can have a cruel way of doing things sometimes.

Anyhow finally the parts arrived and my subs could be rebuilt.

The boys from SGR arrived for the reassembly. Piece by piece box by box the towers grew. This time though atop of some massive outriggers, heavy duty versions of SGRs award wining audio racking.

 

But sadly my temporary speakers, Martin Logan Monoliths are moving on.

Their transparent midrange will most certainly be missed, a stunning speaker at low to moderate volumes.

But with scale and dynamics and sheer excitement Illuminators they are not.

 

 


 

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Some seriously good speakers there (I am at the opposite end of the SGR spectrum with semi-retired CX3B). Any speaker that requires a team to reassemble them is a speaker I want.

 

I know the pain of ‘mishaps’ myself - one evening while somewhat socially excited, I decided to see just how much grunt my amplifier had - I can now confirm, enough grunt to make Messrs Bowers and Wilkins wish I would not buy their products again......

 

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So it may be time for a gtg me thinks.

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Great news, Joe! Looking forward to being able to get down to Melbourne for a listen the next time a show can be held!

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35 minutes ago, joz said:

So it may be time for a gtg me thinks.

I would happily drive down from Canberra to hear those speakers.

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13 hours ago, Doppelganger said:

Great news, Joe! Looking forward to being able to get down to Melbourne for the listen the next time a show can be held!


Yep it’s been a while since our last catch up 👍

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Fantastic to see your beloved Illuminators back up and running @joz.

The new outriggers look great. :thumb:

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On 07/03/2021 at 12:16 PM, joz said:

Yea! gently😁

Sooooo long, 2020 the year that kept giving.

Stuart and the guys were great, the install is so much more than unpacking a box and placing them insitu.

great to see these come back together again for you. no doubt 2020 will remain best forgotten ! great that get to finally enjoy these and the full system back together again :) 

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On 07/03/2021 at 10:43 AM, joz said:

With room gain and a gentle boost by me😁 the bass is certainly not rolling off like in the near field graph. 

 

I was wondering about that. Are there any room measurements from the main seating position to share?

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2 hours ago, Satanica said:

 

I was wondering about that. Are there any room measurements from the main seating position to share?


Joz’s house, or the neighbours?

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Tell him in the future to not t look so worried.

 

 

Smile.   Living My Dream- Becoming A Vet: Cow Power!

 

 

It'll all come out in the end.

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3 hours ago, Satanica said:

 

I was wondering about that. Are there any room measurements from the main seating position to share?


stuart is coming back, I may be able to convince him to re measure from the listening position then.

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22 minutes ago, joz said:


stuart is coming back, I may be able to convince him to re measure from the listening position then.

It always pays to buy local..👍

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When I was there last Joe, didn't realise the gorgeous rosewood finish....look brilliant.

 

Frank.

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Interesting comments about the Martin Logan Monolith. Having loved the CLS (with sub) driven by VTL tubes, I couldn't get the Monoliths I upgraded to to dance--especially at higher volumes (driven by Classe 25). The sound always felt lacklustre. Possibly distorted somewhat. I was disappointed but this also triggered my journey towards SET amps as I then went 'small scale' in my quest for tonal purity. Shenzen Labs VAL 211 monos driving Artemis EOS 2-way speakers: bliss for a decade.

 

Just my 2c worth

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On 13/03/2021 at 12:37 AM, doogie44 said:

Interesting comments about the Martin Logan Monolith. Having loved the CLS (with sub) driven by VTL tubes, I couldn't get the Monoliths I upgraded to to dance--especially at higher volumes (driven by Classe 25). The sound always felt lacklustre. Possibly distorted somewhat. I was disappointed but this also triggered my journey towards SET amps as I then went 'small scale' in my quest for tonal purity. Shenzen Labs VAL 211 monos driving Artemis EOS 2-way speakers: bliss for a decade.

 

Just my 2c worth


Well my first reaction with the MLs was a bit of a disappointment . But only because I was expecting them to compete with the big SGRs .

But soon realised that keeping them within a certain range they truly sang.

I drove them with with what I had on hand which was an Elektra Phynx tubed pre and a HD3 Reference @300/side.

They just worked beautifully.

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Great to hear @joz . Did you have them off the back wall and toed in previously? I remember them against the rear wall and straight into the room 

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3 hours ago, blybo said:

Great to hear @joz . Did you have them off the back wall and toed in previously? I remember them against the rear wall and straight into the room 


Only a bit further out but with a bit more toe in this time. Possibly a bit to much though.

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Only a bit further out but with a bit more toe in this time. Possibly a bit to much though.

The illuminators come across as a speaker that are not overly fussy as far as position goes and don't need a heap of toe-in especially in that big room.

 

Have the new footers made much of a difference?

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Great news. The SGR team provide nothing less than superb service. Another great Aussie manufacturer. Can’t wait to have a listen to these monsters again. 

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Those outriggers look exceptional - I wonder if they make them separately for other speakers??

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On 14/03/2021 at 11:09 AM, joz said:

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Great to see these back in action. Some cling film still stuck to the sides

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On 14/03/2021 at 5:37 PM, frednork said:

They really do look awe inspiring Joe! And If you need some measuring happy to help!!

Thanks , but all done now.

On 15/03/2021 at 6:04 PM, unclemack said:

Great news. The SGR team provide nothing less than superb service. Another great Aussie manufacturer. Can’t wait to have a listen to these monsters again. 

Yep, absolutely outstanding service from the boys. 

You just need to come back to town. 

On 15/03/2021 at 6:21 PM, Pigpen said:

Those outriggers look exceptional - I wonder if they make them separately for other speakers??

 

These were custom from Stuart, not sure he'd want to do anymore custom work after doing mine 😬

On 16/03/2021 at 10:41 AM, anandpkumar said:

 

Great to see these back in action. Some cling film still stuck to the sides

 

Yep, trust someone to pickup on that 😁

All peeled of once in situ.

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On 14/03/2021 at 4:42 PM, Martykt said:

The illuminators come across as a speaker that are not overly fussy as far as position goes and don't need a heap of toe-in especially in that big room.

 

Have the new footers made much of a difference?

 

The footers were more for stability and my piece of mind rather than sound improvement, they were already on spikes previously.

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Glad to see some normality has returned @joz, however place looks a tad under dressed without a mighty fish tank!

However with the ultra low frequency  shockwaves shaking the last one apart, best to be safe with one of smaller dimensions like this ! 😉

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Wowza! What absolute monsters! My wife would never allow anything like that in the living room  :(

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