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Item Condition: very good Shipping Options: Pickup available but audition is not available. Suburb or Town: Hurlstone Park State: NSW Payment Method: Paypal (+3.5%), Paypal friend, cash on pick-up Reason for selling: Not sure ... hence EOI I bought this from Clay about 2.5 years ago.
It was originally built in mid-2014 and then with Clay until I bought it in mid-2018. The Konverter has been part of my system ever since while a number of other DACs came and went.
Amazing Gieseler quality one of a kind DAC with some added tube goodness. Exceptional build quality and very high spec components – this was originally going to retail for around the $6,000 mark. Almost perfect combination of detail retrieval, musicality and tube-flavour of choice, which is why I kept coming back to this over and over again.
EOI at this stage, as this is one of the very few items I believe I might regret selling. House renos are imminent and I need to simplify system and get rid of some gear.
Link to Clay’s original for sale add with a lot more detail and some additional photos:
Quote from a PM that Clay sent to when giving the Konverter a final test-run before sending it:
“I compared it to a Gross DAC & was quite surprised with the result. I was expecting more detail from the Gross but it was the other way round. Bottom end was similar on both DAC’s - maybe a fraction tighter on the Gross but not much in it.”
I had one issue with the Konverter a couple of months after buying it. The LDR/optical volume system was drifting out of balance favouring the left channel. Initially adjusted back with the balance trimmer on the PCB inside the Konverter with Clay’s remote support, but kept drifting out of balance. New Optos were ordered from the US, matched and installed by Terry Demole (zenelectro here on SNA) in Sydney with some remote assistance provided by Clay. Problem resolved and no issues in the 2 years since.
The DAC comes with several tubes that I used over the years, so you have a good range of different “flavours” to experiment with:
1. Genalex Gold Lion E88CC (this was the original tube it came with)
2. Philips NOS PCC88 (provided by Clay as an option)
3. Amperex 6922 US Pinched Waist D Getter PQ 1959 (my favourite)
4. Siemens E88CC grey shield 1966
5. Telefunken E88CC 1968
Any questions, please ping me a PM or ask here.
I am very reluctant to post this – not due to weight but rather due to potential damage in transit, so pick-up only at the moment. I can deliver within Greater Sydney if required and pre-arranged. No in-home auditions at this stage – sorry.
Been going through the Gieseler DAC threads to dig up owners’ reviews & impressions over the past 2 few years. Together, they provided an impressive picture of how well Clay has made his DACs and has lead me to consider purchase the upcoming Groß DAC with balanced outputs.
Kompakt Reviews & Impressions
lenticularis 23 Sep 20, 29 Nov 20 compared with Klein III
herbs 24 Sep 20
franky995 24 Sep 20 compared with Gross
naggots 25 Sep 20
pete_mac 20 Oct 20
John0001 10 Nov 20
ray4410 24 Nov 20 compared with Denafrips Ares II
Fein II Reviews & Impressions
helland 28 Mar 19
RussB 14 Apr 19 compared with Gross with gold tuned PSU
Snoopy8 14 Apr 19 compared with Gross with gold tuned PSU
Galatic Soap 30 Jul 19 compared with Chord Hugo TT2 + BluMk2
Max Headroom 30 Jul 19 compared with Chord Hugo TT2 + MScaler
andrewyuri 2 Aug 19 compared with Chord 2Qute
Steve M 8 Aug 19 compared with Holo Audio Spring Level 3, MF Trivista 21, NuForce Reference, Topping D10
Suopermanni 12 Sep 19 compared with Topping D70
Pete Gardner 16 Jan 20 compared with Klein III
Scott Daniel 6 Jun 20
Klein III Reviews & Impressions
pnes_nv 20 Oct 18 compared with Arcam irDac II
pete_mac 10 Nov 18 compared with Klein
DrSK 11 Dec 18 compared with Oppo 205
Snrub 8 Mar 19 compared with Audiolab M-Dac
lenticularis 4 Sep 19 compared with Modi 3
pete_mac 24 Sep 19 compared with Audio-GDPCM1704UK
bjs 30 Oct 2019 compared with Musical Fidelity M1 Dac, 14 Nov 19 compared with Chord Mojo
krappo 26 Feb 20
Groß (Gross) Reviews & Impressions
illbarto 18 Sep 17 compared with Klein II
Snoopy8 5 Oct 17 compared with Audiolab 8200CDQ, 13 May 18, compared with Chord 2Qute, PS Audio Direct Stream jnr
BAM 6 Oct 17 compared with PSAudio Directstream
bhobba 28 Nov 17, 22 Jan 18 compared with PSAudio Directstream
Ancientflatulence 15 Dec 17
Suopermanni 23 Dec 17 compared with Gungnir Multibit
Bill125812 18 Jan 18 compared with PS Audio Nu Wave
scumbag 18 Jan 18 compared with PS Audio Direct Stream jnr
RussB 23 Feb 18, 8 Apr 18 compared with Klein, Chord Qutest
Mattw 4 Mar 18 6 Mar 18 14 Mar 18 compared with Starting Point Systems DAC3
Mike13 6 Mar 13 compared with Chord 2Qute, 13 May 18 compared with Chord 2Qute, PS Audio Direct Stream jnr
Francisco 8 Mar 18
Stereophilus 11 Mar 18 compared with Mola Mola Makua, PSAudio Directstream, Chord DAVE
Assisi 11 Mar 18 compared with Mola Mola Makua
Rosco8 24 Mar 18 compared with Cayin (Valve/SS), ARCAM-II DAC II
Bunno77 26 Mar 18 compared with Geek Pulse S Infinity
Rawl99 2 Apr 18 compared with Killer
rmpfyf 2 Apr 18 compared with Killer
Conch 16 Apr 18 compared with Klein II, Chord 2qute, Accuphase Dac50
Max Headroom 10 May 18, 13 May 18 compared with Chord 2Qute, PS Audio Direct Stream jnr
buddyev 31 Oct 18 compared with Topping D50
lemarguis 10 Jul 19 compared with Klein II
Pkay 23 Jul 19 compared with Chord Qutest + Mscaler
noisuf 23 Oct 20 compared with Denafrips Ares II
Konverter Reviews & Impressions
~Spyne~ 29 Apr 17
Woadl 13 Jun 17 compared with Auralic Vega
Klein II Reviews & Impressions
Andrewyuri 1 May 16 compared with Klein
Jonny 31 Jul 16 compared with Antelope Gold
Klein Reviews & Impressions
GPK 17 Jun 15
Bill125812 28 Jun 15 compared with NAD M51
naggots 29 Jun 15
rambada 7 Aug 15
matt200sr 10 Aug 15
naggots 21 Sep 15 on SE version
scumbag 16 Oct 15 compared with MyDac
joz 29 Oct 15
pete_mac 5 Nov 15 compared with audio-gd DAC16DSP
pop9745 25 Nov 15 compared with Chord Hugo, Resonessence Labs Concero HD, and Ifi
betocool 1 Dec 15
woadl 1 Dec 15
andrewyuri 13 Apr 16 compared with Arcam irDac, Nad M51
Jventer 15 May 16 compared with PSAudio Directstream
NcA 27 May 16
Tellmidd 16 Jul 16
Powerav 15 Oct 16
Zypr 16 Jan 17
Terry0 11 Mar 18 compared with Oppo 205, Bluesound Node2
Please post if corrections, additions required…
p/s no association with Gieseler Audio.
Item Condition: Excellent Shipping Options: Pickup available but audition is not available.,Pickup available and you can audition.,Shipping is included in price. Suburb or Town: South Yarra, Melbourne State: Victoria Payment Method: PayPal, Bank Transfer, Cash on Pickup Reason for selling: Bought (the TOTL) Gieseler Fein II DAC A while ago ago I impulse purchased Clay's new TOTL DAC, leaving my Groß DAC is available for sale. There has been a lot written by owners here of Gieseler's DAC's (the full list being here: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/126626-gieseler-dac-reviews-impressions/). But just to give you a sample of what people have said about the Groß DAC:
From Max Headroom: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/246058-ps-audio-vs-devialet/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-3899124
"At the other extreme is the Geiseler GroB DAC. I don't think I can find the words to explain how insanely good it is. @scumbag what system did you listen to the DS Jr and Geiseler GroB in? Did you say you couldn't tell a difference between the DirectStream and the Geiseler? Because the difference was so obvious to me and so dramatic its unbelievable. The Gieseler created more lifelike images of instruments and musicians, almost as if they're standing infront of you, better separation between instruments, better clarity with complex music. It's just a bargain at the asking price."
From Rosco8: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/232237-gieseler-groß-dac-official-release/page/19/?tab=comments#comment-3872685
"A new Grob owner. It replaced a Cayin DAC (Valve/SS), and I also have an ARCAM-II DAC II, both quite good DACS, at least to my listening. Very pleased with the Grob .. been running a couple of weeks now, great detail and I can hear little nuances in recordings I haven't heard before. I listen to quite a range of material, from Tidal and FLACs I have rendered from my CD's. Beautiful rendering of vocals, good separation and detail."
From bhobba: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/234066-groß-dac-owners-thread/?tab=comments#comment-3805282
"I will get right to it - my USB only GROB simply blows away the Direct Stream. That's right - a 2.3k or so DAC takes out, and make no mistake about it, the difference is not subtle, the much much more expensive Direct Stream with the latest software etc (I think its about $8k or so here in Aus)."
From Conch: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/232237-gieseler-groß-dac-official-release/page/20/?tab=comments#comment-3886445
"I have compared the Groß to the Klein II, Chord 2qute and Accuphase Dac50 and the Groß has the edge over all of them imo. Better bass control, improved clarity, extremely musical and a natural tone that is engaging and enjoyable to listen to for hours on end with all genres of music."
Adding my own 2 cents to the commentary, when I upgraded to the Groß from an iFi iDSD Micro, my immediate impression was how much 'more natural' or less digital the sound was from the Groß while detail retrieval was more extended at both ends.
Needless to say that the Groß DAC is a truly excellent DAC and amongst the best Australian designed and made DACs made. The unit I am selling has been 'babied' since it was purchased and had it's firmware chip and software updated to the latest appropriate for a Windows based system. I'm sure Clay would be happy to provide you with the firmware for Linux or other based systems. The internal are set for XLR output but can be configured for RCA output (to resolve ground loop/hum issues). Included are the main DAC body, standard power supply, remote control (which never left it's packaging), and I can provide the user manual given to me and invoice of the purchase (PDF).
Pickup is available in South Yarra, Melbourne and I am able to post Australia wide at your expense. Please don't hesitate to ask me any questions you may have. Reasonable offers will be considered.
Item Condition: Excellent Shipping Options: Pickup available but audition is not available.,Pickup available and you can audition.,Shipping is included in price. Suburb or Town: Hawthorn 3122 State: Victoria Payment Method: EFT preferred, Cash on Pickup. Reason for selling: Upgraded to Fein II Further information:
Note this is the AK4490EQ version with selectable filters (Jan-16 build date). This excellent DAC needs no introduction - only selling because I recently upgraded to the Fein II. Still obliterates competition 2-3 times the cost.
Price includes donation to SNA on sale. Can be shipped at buyer's expense.
More info on the filters: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/81435-ak4490eq-filter-adjustment/