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Yes, if I had some Kii speakers, they wouldn't be wasted on the desktop

Hi,   I've been using Focal XS Book Wireless for a number of years, info below in PDF. Well made and excellent sound, but may not be making them now,    https://www.focal.com/sites

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2 hours ago, Bengineer said:

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Any experience with;

 

Dynauio Lyd 5 or 7

Adam A5x

HEDD 05

Neumann KH80

I listened to the ADAMs, I like them, I have 2 pairs of ADAMs already, the AE1s were equivalent in quality, voiced slightly warmer and slightly more resolution. I bought the AE1s for a change, I would have been happy with the ADAMs. My wife preferred the higher WAF AE1s

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They look cool!

 

Apparently somewhere on Gold Coast has the PSI monitors. Fair drive to hear a speaker though. 

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10 hours ago, Bengineer said:

Says they are stand mount. How would they honestly go as nearfields?

Honestly, they are very good. I put them in my main system in place of my ADAMs (see my system below), they were rather overwhelmed by the size of the room, and of course, couldn't compete directly with 750W a channel 3 ways with Heil drivers, but judged on their own merits, were very good. They work far better for me as near-fields, and that's why I bought them

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I have a somewhat contrary view as to which speakers can be used for near field and desk top listening.

 

I think the critical factors are twofold;

 

The  first imo is how well (seamless) the drivers and the crossover are integrated. Ie do they sound as a whole from say 1 metre. Quite a few unusual speakers both passive and active achieve this. Some really great speakers I have owned that achieve this are Acoustic energy Pro sat and AE22’s, Elac BS312, Dynaudio C1’s, Harbeth 30.1’s and Kii 3’s. So in other words don’t necessarily discount speakers that aren’t specifically marketed as near field. Move up close to a range of speakers and you will note which ones are well integrated vs those which aren’t for nearfield application.

 

Second is how the bass reacts to boundaries. This can be harder to test obviously as most shops won’t have them on a desktop. But audition aside, I think obviously avoiding rear ported is potentially more beneficial, the second factor is one that has already been mentioned and that is stands, which can help control bass output. The two really good stands are the isoacoustics aperta’s and even better IMO are the Ionforge, mainly because they are completely adjustable for tilt. They are as well made as the aperta also imo;

 

https://www.ionforgeonline.com/Pro-Series-Desktop-Speaker-Stands

 

I have attached a pic of how close I listen to my Kii’s, and the main reason it works is driver integration imo.

 

From the pro actives, I think the Adam’s are a pretty good option. I like ribbon tweeters at close range as they can be more diffuse and immersive as long as they mate to the cone driver seamlessly.

 

Good luck with it, I think the master twelve is a fantastic starting point.

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For me it comes down to my room dimensions and environment, there's no point in me spending thousands on some near field monitors because how my computer desks setup creates quite a lot of bass reflection off the rear wall, no way I can shift it around either.

The iLoud micro monitors were nice and what's the point when they don't sound flat due to the room postioning.

Atm, I use some Pioneer DM40 and actually get a somewhat flatter cleaner response

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1 minute ago, Bengineer said:

D.S.P :D


Yeh, I could EQ them but prefer not too. especially in the $$$$ realm, the room creates a terrible midbass bloat at anything higher than 40% volume.

Give me an instant headache.

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Where I dwell the pinnicles are obscured above the clouds. A few years ago I auditioned desktop speakers at a more modest level and was most impressed by the Neumann KH120: small footprint, satisfyingly solid design and build, excellent clear, neutral sound. But I ended up with JBL LSR305 because they were good enough for my purposes and great value. 

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I've found small open baffles give wonderful results. You do need a separate sub for real bass though I tend not to miss it as I only use for my office and bedroom systems.

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23 minutes ago, Ewok209 said:


Yeh, I could EQ them but prefer not too. especially in the $$$$ realm, the room creates a terrible midbass bloat at anything higher than 40% volume.

Give me an instant headache.

More meaning the higher end monitors with built in room correction. Their whole existence is to sound their best in any environment.

 

DSP and EQ not a bad thing, especially for speakers.

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I am getting a pair of Bowers & Wilkins B&W Formation Duo for my desk with a dual computer monitor setup. I am a bit worried they are too large and putting them on stands behind the desk will look ostentatious (I receive clients in my office). Anybody tried this before?

 

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Current leanings;

 

Genelec 8330A

KEF LS50W

 

The Genelec has its own excellent DSP setup. The rear ported KEF I would have to EQ by ear, but they are coaxial and have a lot of tech built in.

 

Not sure what else I should put on short list. There is a chance I could listen the these two, many others have no hope.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Bengineer said:

Current leanings;

 

Genelec 8330A

KEF LS50W

 

The Genelec has its own excellent DSP setup. The rear ported KEF I would have to EQ by ear, but they are coaxial and have a lot of tech built in.

 

Not sure what else I should put on short list. There is a chance I could listen the these two, many others have no hope.

 

 

 

Don't forget the Kii3's ! (Powerball pending): https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/61064-kef-ls50-wireless-ii/

 

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One brand that's not been mentioned in this thread that demands some respect is Barefoot Sound. 

 

https://barefootsound.com

 

It's safe to say a lot of the music you've heard in the past decade has been mixed on Barefoots.  I've got a pair of Micromains on stands in my home studio and love them to freaking bits.  I've had mine since 2011 and have no urge to replace them with anything else.

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Likely outside your investment ballpark, but their entry level Footprints might be worth an audition if you can find someone local who stocks them.  

 

Lew at Awave / Chocolate Audio in Melbourne is the distributor. Hit him up and find out who might have some near where you live.

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5 minutes ago, Bengineer said:

It comes tomorrow! Ooooooo baby. Spent too much. Spent too much. Won't think about it.

 

I'm sensing you went the full monty with a pair of G-bangers... I'm jealous

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5 minutes ago, rand129678 said:

 

I'm sensing you went the full monty with a pair of G-bangers... I'm jealous

Haha. Fkn $8k those suckers. Dont even *have* that much!

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They are big. Heavy. And reeeeeal close to my head. And it's good.

 

Just using Optical in at the moment as its what I have. Might make a Digital Coax cable and use that, see how it goes.

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On 27/11/2020 at 1:02 PM, Bengineer said:

They are big. Heavy. And reeeeeal close to my head. And it's good.

 

Just using Optical in at the moment as its what I have. Might make a Digital Coax cable and use that, see how it goes.

 

Makin me miss the passive LS50's I had at my desk ! 

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Lots of monitor type speakers mentioned in this thread. 

 

Does anyone know if certain types of monitor speakers are decent for mid field recreational listening? I notice the OP went for more general hifi speakers for his desk but I am wondering the applicability of some monitors for non-close-field duties.

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@Bengineer can you give some thoughts a couple of months in?

 

Considering some LS50 meta to either replace (along with a new center of some type) my front stage for main lounge home theatre, or my LSX on my desk.

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