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looking for recommendations on power cables connected to your sources tried & tested. I once read “to place your most dynamic & detailed power cable on your source as once the dynamics are gone from the source you can never get them back” so to speak. Trying this with my system unveiled a new world of resolution & changed my system for the better.

Nothing too entry level as I have found most “tier 1” cables due to build quality & plugs don’t have the major advantages I’m looking for in my system until the mid & top spec but please do recommend a cable you have heard regardless of tier if you have been impressed with it.
Im currently using an Isotek Evo3 Elite on my digital player and an Analysis Plus power oval 2 on my DAC. The two work very well together with the Elite being very open, dynamic & musical with the power oval 2 pulling the reins back a tad and calming the excitement as it is a very quite cable which adds control and bass authority into the mix. I have tried two evo 3 elites on the digital player & DAC but the sound was bright & thin. With two AP power oval 2s the sound was a tad dull Hence why I use them combined. 
Let me hear your favorite source PCs reviews and why you like them. I have been recommended Voodoo Air spectra / Phoenix and the siltech PCs by a fellow member to start with.

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I agree, the Sequel is a good cable. It’s the set up I used to run before the Elite. I found the elite to be more open, detailed with a bigger soundstage and had better resolution when upgrading, quite a step up. I’m also using an Optimum on my Pre and power too.

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I’m now in two minds which way to go next: save and get the Sigmas or, keep the Sirius and feed the source components and get the Evo 3 Syncro uni and feed the Amp with it, nothing this side of Xmas though

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I have tried an Aquarius in my system and it definitely made everything cleaner and quieter but had so much to upgrade back then at the same time I just got my PCs instead as they made the biggest difference in my system (using Cawsey power box currently) Aquarius was twice as good. I would prefer the sigmas as the whole system would benefit and since you already have a Optimum, plugging it into a sigmas would be better anyway as the sigmas does what the syncro does but to the whole system.

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Gday, there's a bloke in Mount Martha-Victoria, called Ray, who makes a quality power cable, that I use on all my components, even my subs... 

Great bloke to deal with...            fully shielded cable for hifi av systems,braided cable made in Germany,eliminates rfi emi from entering system also prevents contamination to nearby interconnects,very flexible,

1.5mtrs in length other lengths available,

cable rated 18amp current rating

450volts rating

od 10.3mm

tinned copper braid.

fitted with Australian 1439hd wall plug,more than one available,also custom lengths.

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On 11/11/2020 at 7:47 PM, ppaul said:

I’m now in two minds which way to go next: save and get the Sigmas or, keep the Sirius and feed the source components and get the Evo 3 Syncro uni and feed the Amp with it, nothing this side of Xmas though

I had 2 x Synchro's on my Gryphon amp and ending up going back to the Optimums. The Synchro's thinned out the sound and I lost a bit of dynamics which I put a preference on .Try before you buy if possible , count me as one who is not a big fan of the Synchros especially on amps.

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2 hours ago, ppaul said:

Jones99, do you mean the Syncro cable? Or the actual Syncro uni power conditioner? 

Apologies for the confusion yes EVO3 Synchro Cables .......Gryphon stereo amps require 2 power cords.

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Another stellar recommendation from a fellow member has been the LessLoss C-Marc power cable. I have read some great reviews even one comparing the C-Marc to the siltech crown prince at 4x the price (although speaker cables) most brands & the individual models seem to have a certain signature sound & presentation across the range. 
 

anybody with Voodoo air spectra or voodoo air Phoenix, Siltech or Kharma power cables?

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the best all round power cable i have tried is Sablon audio. pound for pound the best i've tried for the money. I have Acoustic Revive Voodoo Black diamond right up to Nordost Odin and Audio note. It is very system dependant. I tried the Odin on my MSB Dac and didn't like it the sablon was better. Tries the Audio note on my Nordost QX4 and the Odin was way better, you get what i mean.

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18 hours ago, 44maloo said:

the best all round power cable i have tried is Sablon audio. pound for pound the best i've tried for the money. I have Acoustic Revive Voodoo Black diamond right up to Nordost Odin and Audio note. It is very system dependant. I tried the Odin on my MSB Dac and didn't like it the sablon was better. Tries the Audio note on my Nordost QX4 and the Odin was way better, you get what i mean.

Nice comment Maloo, I was reading up about the Gran Corona PC last night and had quite a few rave reviews. I’ll keep reading up about them over the weekend. 
also I definitely agree with you about component synergy with different PCs. My AP Power oval 2 is stellar on my Dac & Blu ray player but dull on the Digital player or AV pre processor.

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I have recently been trying out a Chord Signature Aray Power cable and must say I was quite impressed! Compared to the Isotek Evo3 Elite, it has a monstrous sound stage, more detail and loads more bass authority without being harsh or bright! It’s still running in but as it does the resolution and imaging focus has improved a lot as it initially started off being a bit unfocused & blurred due to the large soundstage. Makes me wonder what the Sarum T power cable is like if the signature is impressive. Not much info on either which I’m surprised about.

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2 hours ago, CremonaM said:

Nice comment Maloo, I was reading up about the Gran Corona PC last night and had quite a few rave reviews. I’ll keep reading up about them over the weekend. 
also I definitely agree with you about component synergy with different PCs. My AP Power oval 2 is stellar on my Dac & Blu ray player but dull on the Digital player or AV pre processor.

the Sablon power cable sounds good on everything i try in my system, it really is a great cable.

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4 hours ago, 44maloo said:

the Sablon power cable sounds good on everything i try in my system, it really is a great cable.

Who carries Sablon in Australia.Do they make Oz compatible cables ?I have recently been trialing  new power cables with my front end . Tried the top Analysis Pus Ultimate's with my MSB Dac and surprisingly much preferred  2 x Isotek Ascension which now run both power supplies.  On my MSB transport Nordost Valhalla  V2 was  preferred to  Ascension and AP Ultimate to the point it has stayed in my system .I will try Odin 2 soon with  Dac and Transport as well as more Valhalla V2 but cannot help but feel more Nordost may not suit my tastes ,but better to try then guess, though.

Audioquest Hurricane and Dragon I would like to try also but I cannot find any in Australia. Anyone have experience?

Any other suggestions welcome but I must be able to audition which a lot of manufacturers seem very reluctant to do which is shame as if I like them they will stay.

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Thanks to @44maloo for lending me his Sablon cables very generous and greatly appreciated . Some fantastic feedback on these power cables so really looking forward to trying in my system. I will be able to compare them to my current Isotek Ascension and Valhalla V2 which should be very interesting, 

@CremonaM happy to report findings if you think it may be helpful.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Jones99 said:

Thanks to @44maloo for lending me his Sablon cables very generous and greatly appreciated . Some fantastic feedback on these power cables so really looking forward to trying in my system. I will be able to compare them to my current Isotek Ascension and Valhalla V2 which should be very interesting, 

@CremonaM happy to report findings if you think it may be helpful.

 

Absolutely, please let me know @Jones99 I will be very interested to hear how they go on your source & power amp compared with the fantastic cables you already have. Also can you include the difference between the Ascension & Isotek Optimum if you have tried them? Nice work @44maloo very generous and I look forward to hearing about the listing session results. 

Absolutely, please let me know @Jones99 I will be very interested to hear how they go on your source & power amp compared with the fantastic cables you already have. Also can you include the difference between the Ascension & Isotek Optimum if you have tried them? Nice work @44maloo very generous and I look forward to hearing about the listing session results

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5 hours ago, CremonaM said:

Absolutely, please let me know @Jones99 I will be very interested to hear how they go on your source & power amp compared with the fantastic cables you already have. Also can you include the difference between the Ascension & Isotek Optimum if you have tried them? Nice work @44maloo very generous and I look forward to hearing about the listing session results

I have Isotek Evo 3 Optimums as well so can reference them when I have all the cables. My amps are 20amp c19 connections so wont be able to give thoughts this time around. I can try on my woofer towers but not sure without having same cables on amps it will be relevant.

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Looking forward to Jones99 thoughts on the Sablon power cables too. He has the best Dac on the planet in my view so happy I can help.

 

joe.

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Hi there,

 

For sources, I'd take a look at the Shunyata Venom NR cables, I've found them to be among the best under $1k.

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curious anyone want to buy sablon power cables? i have the king cables and have a few spares:-) msg me if you like

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@Plasmod3 spare Sablon King cables! Nice. Have you compared them to any other power cables for a quick review on their sound? Also are you using them on source / power or both.

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On 19/01/2021 at 8:41 PM, Plasmod3 said:

curious anyone want to buy sablon power cables? i have the king cables and have a few spares:-) msg me if you like

Sent you a PM for more info 

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On 31/01/2021 at 8:12 PM, CremonaM said:

@Jones99 has there been any opportunities for some listening sessions to compare the power cables?

Sorry just seen this will put some thoughts down tomorrow.

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On 31/01/2021 at 8:12 PM, CremonaM said:

@Jones99 has there been any opportunities for some listening sessions to compare the power cables?

Been an interesting experiment for me. All of the cables were used on the DAC and transport

Putting in the Evo3 Optimums on either the DAC or Transport the  sound stage collapses a little and it definitely sounds like more haze is in the system compared to the Sablons and Ascensions. One should take in context Optimum is a very nice power cable. On my transport the Ascensions surpass the Optimums with a quieter background bigger sound stage and less hash with much more presence.

Comparing Valhalla V2 to Ascension to each other on the transport is an interesting one. V2 on the transport and 2 Ascensions on the DAC the sound stage increases dramatically and there is a lot more detail ,tighter bass and air. With Ascension on the transport and V2/Ascension on the DAC the sound stage collapsed a little and there was loss of air and detail. The sound was more laid back .I had  @teagle who knows my system quite well come around and have a listen, he confirmed my findings. Just seemed to reach into the music with more all round with V2 on transport and Ascensions on the DAC. I will get the opportunity to try another Valhalla V2 soon . Two Valhalla's V2's on DAC and Transport may be too much for my tastes as I prefer a more meaty natural sound but  for someone who craves detail at all cost it may be exactly what they are after. Unless you try one never knows though........Odin 2 definitely worth a try as well and will do that soon

The Sablons  I had on loan were definitely a surprise. While I would not say they are completely right  for my tastes they ticked a lot of my boxes for my preferences. If I can summarize the Sablons used on the DAC they seem to add weight ,realism and a relaxed presentation which are definitely traits I admire . Compared to Ascension I did appear to lose a little bass , clarity and focus. Definitely no right or wrong here and I could definitely live with either. 

As a final test I moved the Ascension to my Woofer towers. Valhalla V2 on transport and the Sablons on my DAC. This was my favorite combo by far. The music held its massive sound stage,detail,space and added more presence,weight ,naturalness. This combo I really enjoyed which has led me to pick up Sablons top power cable 2 X King Sablons for  my DAC......looking forward to trying them out soon! 

While the power cable trialing has been fun,quite surprising and not quite complete next up I will be looking at isolation transformer systems......specifically Torus Power  or similar.

Hope the above helps

 

      

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Interesting stuff indeed, I don’t think you’ll go wrong with the Torus products 

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On 05/02/2021 at 12:38 PM, initforthemusic said:

@CremonaM My experience is Power Cables work best with good Power Conditioning.

Yes I totally agree! Ive since upgraded my Cawsey power box for an Isotek Evo3 Aquarius and has done wonders for my system. I’m also currently running 2 X Nordost QV2’s & 2 X QK1’s on the same power line that feeds my system which was an even better upgrade than the Isotek Evo3 Aquarius. 

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One of the best investments I had made in HiFi was the PS Audio P10 power regen several years ago, I recently updated it with a P15 and it was another step up. I also recently had dedicated power cables with their own fuses at the fuse box run to my listening rooms. 
 

Clean power along with proper room treatment are two of the most important things in HiFi even though both are often ignored.

 

I’m presently going down the power cable upgrade path and it can get scary expensive, one thing that always concerns me though are the number of cables that are imported that do not have Australian compliance, they may and often do make a positive difference but what happens if something goes wrong and your left having to answer questions from your insurer or worse?

 

This thread, I’m guessing in part because of no interruptions, has been a very interesting read, I hope it continues on.

 

cheers,

Terry

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4 hours ago, TerryO said:

I’m presently going down the power cable upgrade path and it can get scary expensive, one thing that always concerns me though are the number of cables that are imported that do not have Australian compliance, they may and often do make a positive difference but what happens if something goes wrong and your left having to answer questions from your insurer or worse?

 

I'm with Terry on this, I looked at some cables that a member recommended in another thread, I couldn't find any reference on Aussie certification so I contacted them. 

The reply went along the lines of we've never had any issues with the cables we've sold including hundreds in Australia, however our cables are not certified. 

I guess it's a case of buyer beware

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Definitely a valid point @TerryO Australian compliance & insurance! Often not even considered or discussed.
To the seasoned Audiophile where sound quality matters above all else though this is mostly overlooked. If it’s from a reputable cable company though the quality of their products & how meticulously they are put together should give better confidence than a standard kettle cord hopefully! 
 

Back on the power conditioning side, did you previously have an Isotek product to compare to the PS audio P10 like where most begin the journey?

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@CremonaM with respect, an insurance company won't care about reputation or qualities of their product, they will however care about compliance with the relevant Australian standard. 

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Since Mid January after purchasing a Chord Signature Aray power cable, Ive been very happy with my power cables in the system and moved onto unit isolation & Ethernet switches which I know is another Hifi taboo topic for another thread I might start soon.
 

But recently having the opportunity to upgrade my Chord signature Aray power cable (source cable which has been incredible as commented on above) with a Sarum T 🙌 I just couldn’t resist! 
chasing the “live performance” + a true & natural tone with a high resolution benchmark, the Sarum T cable has, although briefly with 30+ hrs of playing time has so far been a revelation. Ultra high resolution & deadly accurate & fast picking up tiny background nuances playing out in the rear corner of a recording + a nice throaty vocal that has a lot more meat when compared to the signature power cable. As we all know, where there is resolution there has to be a trade off sometimes & in the early stages of the burn in, the brightness has appeared on not very well recorded tracks especially which luckily is diminishing the more hours the cable gets. I listened to the classic ‘Keith don’t go’ by Niles Lofgren and was floored with the tonal accuracy & guitar string note decay. Niles was in the room for sure!

 

I also tried the Sarum T on my pre processor and again, vocal was the standout along with a deeper stage.

 

As I used to have Sarum speaker cables, the big difference between the Sarum & Sarum T that I have noticed is both the extra but more accurate resolution + stage depth & air. I found the original Sarum to be two dimensional in comparison with the Sarum T. 

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