Pops110 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 9 hours ago, klackto said: Even if it is a 115v motor it is still quite possible that (seeing that turntable was found in Australia) the pulley may already have been changed for the correct 50Hz one. Best way would be to replace the motor and using the existing pulley check the speed. In any case you'd only need to change the one pulley on the motor (not the other two) and a machine shop could easily make a new one from delrin or similar material. The pulley looks different from others I’ve seen online so you may be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 14 hours ago, Telecine said: You are going to need a speed controller. VPI options sold over time were the PLC speed controller, SDS speed controller or the new ADS speed controller. A step down transformer may work. There are a few third party options available but that is probably a different discussion. Yeah I see there are some other options like SOTA I think but probably would prefer to use the original motor housin so then I would need the PLC or SDS. Just need to find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 What would be everyone’s thoughts on using a Jelco 12inch tonearm? I’m trying to keep the costs down so I can actually get it up and going again. As I was told yesterday, it may have been a great find but not so good a project. The cost to get it up and running could outweigh the actual value of the deck. I do have a few leads on some of the parts I need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telecine Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Pops110 said: What would be everyone’s thoughts on using a Jelco 12inch tonearm? I’m trying to keep the costs down so I can actually get it up and going again. As I was told yesterday, it may have been a great find but not so good a project. The cost to get it up and running could outweigh the actual value of the deck. I do have a few leads on some of the parts I need. I tend to agree with that assessment. I'm not sure that you would fit a 12 inch Jelco arm on that deck. Edited November 1, 2020 by Telecine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 I was recommended to get a 12 inch arm. I really don’t know, is there an arm you can recommend that’s not going to break the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Pops110 said: I was recommended to get a 12 inch arm. I really don’t know, is there an arm you can recommend that’s not going to break the bank. I am on an even cheaper budget, but still wanted a 12" arm. Haven't found one. I am still using a vintage B&O 9" arm, but it is performing well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzbear Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 The jello arms are excellent products, and there’s not much point wondering about the ones in the stratosphere, price wise, when you are living down on earth. Whilst they are no longer made, they are still available online from a few places. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crtexcnndrm99 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Might be outclassed on your deck @Pops110 but I’m really enjoying the Fidelity Research offerings (specifically, FR-24mk2). Quality vintage Japanese engineering and slightly cheaper than the Jelco again (!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Juzbear said: The jello arms are excellent products, and there’s not much point wondering about the ones in the stratosphere, price wise, when you are living down on earth. Whilst they are no longer made, they are still available online from a few places. Would the jello arms be a little floppy. I think you’re probably right there mate, get what I can afford for now. Edited November 1, 2020 by Pops110 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphason Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 There is an SDS on ebay, they don't come up very often. The price is a bit less then I have seen them advertised for before. Here's the link: https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=vpi+turntable&_sop=12 The armboard would have to be extended at the rear to accomodate a 12" arm, I think it could be done though. I fitted a 9" VPI memorial arm to mine, a 10" arm would fit equally well. Here is a photo of mine with the 9" arm and the armboard that I had made. The armboard is held by cap bolts from underneath. I think that it is a worthwhile project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Alphason said: There is an SDS on ebay, they don't come up very often. The price is a bit less then I have seen them advertised for before. Here's the link: https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=vpi+turntable&_sop=12 The armboard would have to be extended at the rear to accomodate a 12" arm, I think it could be done though. I fitted a 9" VPI memorial arm to mine, a 10" arm would fit equally well. Here is a photo of mine with the 9" arm and the armboard that I had made. The armboard is held by cap bolts from underneath. I think that it is a worthwhile project. I have seen that one, cheers. I’m talking to somebody else about one, they might also have a few other bits and pieces as well. I was told that preferably a 12 inch arm would be best for this deck and would have no problems fitting. Soon find out I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plato8010 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 A little diy project. TNT V, HW19 SDS SAMA Corian top, densified resin ply bottom, sandwiched between stainless steel. Note. Your spindle isn't the TNT V stainless steel type. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klackto Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Pops110 said: I have seen that one, cheers. I’m talking to somebody else about one, they might also have a few other bits and pieces as well. I was told that preferably a 12 inch arm would be best for this deck and would have no problems fitting. Soon find out I suppose. Be careful with 12" tonearms ..... most won't fit on that turntable. The VPI 12" arms are different as the pivot is on an outrigger of sorts so while the arm length is 12" the mounting distance is less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketfrogs Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 25/10/2020 at 8:56 PM, Pops110 said: It was found at the rubbish tip believe it or not. One of my mates from work was dropping a load of rubbish off and came across it. He went through everything and this was all that was there. I have recurring dreams of such a thing happening to me. Alas no luck so far.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 hours ago, klackto said: Be careful with 12" tonearms ..... most won't fit on that turntable. The VPI 12" arms are different as the pivot is on an outrigger of sorts so while the arm length is 12" the mounting distance is less. Yep just measured now and the 12 inch Jelco won’t work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 01/11/2020 at 7:54 AM, Telecine said: I tend to agree with that assessment. I'm not sure that you would fit a 12 inch Jelco arm on that deck. 23 hours ago, Alphason said: There is an SDS on ebay, they don't come up very often. The price is a bit less then I have seen them advertised for before. Here's the link: https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=vpi+turntable&_sop=12 The armboard would have to be extended at the rear to accomodate a 12" arm, I think it could be done though. I fitted a 9" VPI memorial arm to mine, a 10" arm would fit equally well. Here is a photo of mine with the 9" arm and the armboard that I had made. The armboard is held by cap bolts from underneath. I think that it is a worthwhile project. Yep the Jelco definitely won’t fit. I will wait till it gets here and see if it’s possible to fabricate a plate and armboard to make it work. The JMW arms are out of budget unfortunately, has anyone had any experience with the Helius designs tonearm? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiiiii Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Why not go with a Rega until you can afford something that will match the table? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cardiiiii said: Why not go with a Rega until you can afford something that will match the table? It’s an option for sure. I probably won’t have it up and running till after Christmas at least so there are a few options in the pipeline that will match with the VPI better. I have purchased an SDS and it’s on the way now. I have also purchased some TNT springs, unfortunately without the feet. I plan on fabricating some feet for it when they get here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 First real clean up and polish. I will remove the corner posts next to polish them properly. Has come up better than expected. 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telecine Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Pops110 said: First real clean up and polish. I will remove the corner posts next to polish them properly. Has come up better than expected. Unbelievable result. Great work. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telecine Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Some ideas for you in relation to replacement feet: http://www.vpiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6049 A very decent outcome: Edited November 8, 2020 by Telecine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Telecine said: Some ideas for you in relation to replacement feet: http://www.vpiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6049 Thanks mate, I have had a look at that. Seems like a pretty decent option. I have got the springs and caps coming and some threaded rubber feet, I’m going to have a go at fabricating something to make it all work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telecine Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pops110 said: Thanks mate, I have had a look at that. Seems like a pretty decent option. I have got the springs and caps coming and some threaded rubber feet, I’m going to have a go at fabricating something to make it all work. I'd recommend that you just remove the pulley system from the deck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Telecine said: I'd recommend that you just remove the pulley system from the deck. Yep I think it’s the most viable option as the pulleys are unobtainable. I wish I could have got back to the tip because I’m sure that they would have been in the pile of rubbish somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telecine Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, Pops110 said: Yep I think it’s the most viable option as the pulleys are unobtainable. I wish I could have got back to the tip because I’m sure that they would have been in the pile of rubbish somewhere. They are noise inducing anyway, you are better of without them. It would have been nice to find the feet and maybe the SDS speed controller though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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