G_goodwin 219 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) Ok, so my budget is $4k and I’ve narrowed my choices to 2 TVs that fit inside that budget. I sit 4m from the TV, but can move closer if I want to indulge alone in a 4K flick with the help of a side chair. It will be used in a living room that’s never overly bright - no direct sun. During the evenings I usually have a floor lamp on, so a touch of bias lighting, after all it’s a living room, so I don’t sit in the dark. I watch mostly SD free to air ABC News, Food Network, ALL streaming platforms which I will upgrade to 4K versions, and Optus sport. I’ll be moving on from a 50” Pioneer Kuro. The TVs I have shortlisted are: Sony X9500H 75” Panasonic GZ2000 65” Both are class leading. I know I should go with the larger considering my sitting distance. However the Panasonic was a class leading Oled in 2019, gets to 1000 nits, is rare as hens teeth now that Panasonic don’t ship TVs to Australia anymore, still comes with a 12 month warranty and is brand new, and is over 50% RRP. So my heart tells me the Panasonic, but my brain tells me the Sony. Any help, advice or opinions would be much appreciated. cheers, Glen Edited October 11 by G_goodwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seaninbrisbane 693 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) I have an LG 65" OLED - it's stunning. Just be aware that it reflects light from windows more than LED TVs. Not a problem for me, as we have shutters, but something to consider. Edited October 11 by seaninbrisbane 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metal beat 18,504 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) I have a full array backlit Sony 75inch LCD TV. I came from a Pioneer 50 inch Kuro and could not be happier with the 75 inch. never once have I wished for an OLED and certainly could not go to a smaller 65 inch screen now in the lounge room. SD is OK with these large screens and HD and Ultra HD are really good. Edited October 11 by metal beat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petetherock 995 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 I'll summarise it in two words: Size matters... enuf said 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnL 701 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) My summary would be: PQ matters most.....🙂 PS..........Panasonic didn't make Kuro's!!!!.........LOL Edited October 11 by JohnL 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_goodwin 219 Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 (edited) 26 minutes ago, JohnL said: My summary would be: PQ matters most.....🙂 PS..........Panasonic didn't make Kuro's!!!!.........LOL Whoops..........meant Pioneer. Pardon my blasphemy! now edited. Edited October 11 by G_goodwin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_goodwin 219 Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 40 minutes ago, metal beat said: I have a full array backlit Sony 75inch LCD TV. I came from a Pioneer 50 inch Kuro and could not be happier with the 75 inch. never once have I wished for an OLED and certainly could not go to a smaller 65 inch screen now in the lounge room. SD is OK with these large screens and HD and Ultra HD are really good. How far away do you sit @metal beat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_goodwin 219 Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 Is there anyone out there with a 65” who sits a similar distance to me? Wondering how you feel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petetherock 995 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 At 4m, 4k is moot... I sit 2.5m from my 75" Sony. No fuss and even then, I feel it's rather small.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metal beat 18,504 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) 8 minutes ago, G_goodwin said: How far away do you sit @metal beat? around 3.9m I could probably sit closer cheers Edited October 11 by metal beat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petetherock 995 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 3 minutes ago, metal beat said: around 3.9m I could probably sit closer cheers For you to enjoy the benefits of a 65" OLED you'll need to sit within 2.5m or even less... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metal beat 18,504 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) 2 minutes ago, petetherock said: For you to enjoy the benefits of a 65" OLED you'll need to sit within 2.5m or even less... I enjoy my 75 inch FALD Sony fine @ 3.9m thanks. zero interest in a 65 inch OLED. Edited October 11 by metal beat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petetherock 995 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 TS sits at 4m, so I'm trying to tell him that a 65" - even a top model will not be used at it's optimum at such distances.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seaninbrisbane 693 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 I am 3 metres from my 65" OLED, which seems ideal.....maybe the bigger screen would be more suitable at 4m. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.dent 837 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 I have a Sony 9500H 75” that I bought because I couldn’t justify the 77” OLED price. This has replaced a last gen 60” Panasonic plasma. I was ready for a drop in picture quality from the plasma but I have been pleasantly surprised. The Sony is just better in every way. I’d say go for the bigger Sony rather than the Pana. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gillmaverick 675 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 I chose 75 inch Panasonic Led than 65 inch oled a while ago and no regrets. I also have a drop down projector screen and sit about 4 meters from both . Have calibrated tv myself using HCFR and Xrite display one color meter. Throws a stunning picture and reckon It's pretty close to Oled. Size wins in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny_Boy 101 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Go for the bigger screen. I was in the same boat. either 65 OLED or 75 LED. Its a huge difference in size and never regretted my decision. Once its in the home, any potential difference in picture quality will be forgotten. Not that i think you will be disappointed! I have the 75 and a 120" projector in the same room. about 4m from both. no issues with viewing distance from my eyes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whites 369 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 On 11/10/2020 at 1:26 PM, G_goodwin said: Is there anyone out there with a 65” who sits a similar distance to me? Wondering how you feel? I had the same issue when I bought my OLED, couldn't afford the larger OLED, I went for the better picture quality. I sit about the same distance (3.8m) from a 65" Sony OLED, it's an awesome picture the OLED. I understand what everyone else has said, but for me the 65" was a massive upgrade from my old 50" plasma both in size and picture quality, and I never think about upgrading to a larger size. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abeernut 9 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 For watching sport I think people would recommend the Sony for motion handling. Interesting you can get hold of a new Panasonic from somewhere. If you don't buy it, I might. Good luck, which ever way you go. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_goodwin 219 Posted October 12 Author Share Posted October 12 (edited) My thoughts have slightly altered. I can now score a 77” Sony A9g for $5999. A $2k step up from my budget, but I’m thinking it might be the go with Interest for 48months free financing and a 3 yr warranty from Sony. The Panasonic still seems like the bargain, and I just wish my 4m distance would do it justice, cause I would step all over that deal. I’ve checked, they’re all brand new, not seconds, refurbished or b stock. The Sony, is from Sony and the Panasonic is from Harvey Norman (who I theoretically despise), and comes with a 12 month warranty. Edited October 12 by G_goodwin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whites 369 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 @G_goodwin I bought mine from a Sony store as well, they matched price, had free delivery and as you mentioned had an extra years warranty. better than dealing with my local JB HiFi. Go for the 77" 🙂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PLD 3 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Go with the bigger screen. Currently using a 65 inch screen at 2.5m viewing distance and planning to upgrade to 75 inch. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TP1 1,992 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 I posted elsewhere that I managed to get a new Sony Master Series 77” OLED A9G for $4999 from Costco.. It looks like it was a one time thing because pricing elsewhere is still over $8k. Anyway, this thing provides stunning image quality , contrast to full black , amazing colour and has Sony’s best electronics to manage scaling, contrast etc I was very impressed with Sony’s better LED models - and still am. This A9G just pushes the boundaries out further Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RussB 142 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 77” sounds like way to go if budget allows. I sit 3.5m from 65” Sony 4K. When I bought it I thought I would never need larger...but of course down the track a bit and I am now considering upgrading to a 75”. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Gimlet 251 Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) Muddying the waters here, and I hear what everyone else is saying. But I think you should tweak your list and possibly even expand it. (I know...) First, the Pana GZ2000 is probably overkill. The GZ1000 is probably a better representation of the 65" OLED space (and so is the LG equivalent). These should be your OLED price benchmarks. Second, if you're prepared to trade OLEDness for size, you should probably look at the larger Samsung QLEDs. They are very well regarded and go up into the 80s sizewise. You may still prefer the look of the Sony, but i think you would be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't at least consider them. I would have loved a 75" OLED. Ended up with a 65 Pana. Edited October 14 by Mr_Gimlet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Struggo 1 Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) Food for thought, https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/sony-x9000h-75-4k-full-array-led-android-tv-2020 Man, it's getting tempting to pull the trigger on the 75" X900H. JB has a list price of $2,995 Edited October 14 by Struggo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petetherock 995 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) +1 for the 77” OLED unless you go for the 85” 900H Edited October 15 by petetherock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_goodwin 219 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 20 hours ago, Mr_Gimlet said: Muddying the waters here, and I hear what everyone else is saying. But I think you should tweak your list and possibly even expand it. (I know...) First, the Pana GZ2000 is probably overkill. The GZ1000 is probably a better representation of the 65" OLED space (and so is the LG equivalent). These should be your OLED price benchmarks. Second, if you're prepared to trade OLEDness for size, you should probably look at the larger Samsung QLEDs. They are very well regarded and go up into the 80s sizewise. You may still prefer the look of the Sony, but i think you would be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't at least consider them. I would have loved a 75" OLED. Ended up with a 65 Pana. I hear what you’re saying, but Panasonic has sold out everywhere, but I’ve managed to find a new GZ2000 on close out with full warranty. Again, my main concern with that is sitting distance. If I was closer the Panasonic would be a no brainer over a Sony, but Panasonic don’t do a 77”. Unfortunately I’m not a big fan of Samsung screens. I find them over saturated and the lack of Dolby vision is a concern for me. So, it looks like the A9G 77” will be the go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_goodwin 219 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 On 13/10/2020 at 8:43 PM, TP1 said: I posted elsewhere that I managed to get a new Sony Master Series 77” OLED A9G for $4999 from Costco.. It looks like it was a one time thing because pricing elsewhere is still over $8k. Anyway, this thing provides stunning image quality , contrast to full black , amazing colour and has Sony’s best electronics to manage scaling, contrast etc I was very impressed with Sony’s better LED models - and still am. This A9G just pushes the boundaries out further May I ask @TP1 what kind of room is it in? My living room is not bright, but it’s not pitch black either. I usually have some biased lighting on. How is it with handling regular free to air content? How far away are you sitting? Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Audio Influence 23 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 The Sony range of tvs are quite nice in my opinion. The OLED is amazing. The main players include usual suspects, LG, Samsung and Panasonic. The others all tend to follow. regards Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mpr_65 104 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) On 11/10/2020 at 12:25 PM, G_goodwin said: but my brain tells me the Sony. Stick with the brain. At 4m the 75" is the better choice. 75" OLED will be quite a bit over your budget. The 75" Sony 950H is a fine tv with a good Android operating system that will cater for all your streaming apps without need for other boxes (AppleTV+ support pending). The Sony 900H has been primarily released for gamers in that it will support HDMI 2.1 with a future firmware update. HDMI 2.1 is useless unless you're playing video games using the latest (yet to be released) games and consoles. According to reviews the 900H is slightly inferior to the 950H in picture quality. Good luck Edited October 15 by Mpr_65 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TP1 1,992 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 4 hours ago, G_goodwin said: May I ask @TP1 what kind of room is it in? My living room is not bright, but it’s not pitch black either. I usually have some biased lighting on. How is it with handling regular free to air content? How far away are you sitting? Cheers! It is in the family room about 4 metres from seating position. The room can be quite brightly lit but it doesn't present a problem. If you are worried about light output from this TV compared to LED, you needn't worry. Tweaking a couple of adjustments such as peak luminance , contrast enhancer etc will see quite a jump in overall light output and brightness, so much so I had to wind it back again. Everything played on the TV looks first class. Much of FTA TV is pretty low quality stuff but the Sony still presents it well. Of course the quality jumps exponentially when it is fed high quality video streams. I noticed streaming video quality from a computer to the TV via wifi looked outstanding too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt9999 15 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 where can you get Panasonic OLED tv's from in Australia? I can't seem to find them anywhere... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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