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Ah, but if the creepy neighbour was the hardware shop assistant ..

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Would you say the Ubiquiti Edge range is similarly suitable?

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7 minutes ago, dbastin said:

Would you say the Ubiquiti Edge range is similarly suitable?

Just not as easy to configure and update. Unifi gives a "single pane of glass" for router, switch, wifi. 

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Thanks

I discovered you need a minimum number devices to qualify for the online manangement of Edge devices.  Is that the case with Unifi?

 

Also, getting back to routers and fibre, the price of entry into Unifi is much higher than Edge.

 

I am still inclined to get this unless the $100 or so extra expense is a waste ... will dual core matter? 400MHz v 800MHz?

NB. I assume CRS is RouterSwitch.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, dbastin said:

Is that the case with Unifi?

While there is a clowd management option for Unifi, all the software is free and I (and the other unifi users I know) self-host everything. Who wants to be locked out of network management because NBNCo has another two day outage? I self-host everything. And yes, I've had critical services (mail) running on 4G links for *three days* in the past because NBNCo broke it for the third time in less than a year. 

 

I hear those small 10G switches get bloody hot. If you're not doing 10G and don't need 10G, I wouldn't go there. 

 

 

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To be fair the original suggestion was to prepare @dbastin to know what to ask a consultant. 

 

Not for consultation over a forum.

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On 19/09/2020 at 4:54 PM, Stereophilus said:

Ok @rmpfyf... I read the long post.  My problem, and I think the problem for some (most?) “digital audiophiles”, is we are not quite tech savvy enough to build our own server+streamer system, with software and network setup as you describe.  I have little doubt what you describe would be the ducks nuts, but managing/monitoring/upgrading such a setup is a lot of knowledge to absorb and keep up with.  I put it to you the reason most of us “tweak” is because we digest the smaller increments of knowledge and change to system more easily than going “all-in” as per your description.  And the reason we buy brand name software/server/streamer solutions is because we treat these like audio components with warranties and support.

I was in the same boat, wanted a dedicated music server, but didn't know where to start. Chanh offered to put one together for me and the result was stunning. I am not very tech savvy, but with Chanh help, managed to get it all up and going. It is amazing how helpful he is and how much time he volunteers for helping this community without any financial gain. We are privileged to have people like Chanh on this forum.

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9 minutes ago, qwerter said:

I was in the same boat, wanted a dedicated music server, but didn't know where to start. Chanh offered to put one together for me and the result was stunning. I am not very tech savvy, but with Chanh help, managed to get it all up and going. It is amazing how helpful he is and how much time he volunteers for helping this community without any financial gain. We are privileged to have people like Chanh on this forum.

 

Meh, I still think that guy should have commercialised a bit... @Chanh are you listening :D ?

 

Not suggesting that it'll make you rich or that you should quit your day job, just that there's a good amount of revenue out there to be had and if the audiophile world can do with a dose of anything it's genuine effort... come on mate, if Taiko can sell one of their machines there's (more than) market space for anything of yours.

 

I'd think there would be many happy to pay reasonable amounts for good tech. Particularly those of us in Victoria - $10 says you can start a business and ship product in this faster than it takes us to fly to WA without special permission :P 

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2 hours ago, rmpfyf said:

 

Meh, I still think that guy should have commercialised a bit... @Chanh are you listening :D ?

 

Not suggesting that it'll make you rich or that you should quit your day job, just that there's a good amount of revenue out there to be had and if the audiophile world can do with a dose of anything it's genuine effort... come on mate, if Taiko can sell one of their machines there's (more than) market space for anything of yours.

 

I'd think there would be many happy to pay reasonable amounts for good tech. Particularly those of us in Victoria - $10 says you can start a business and ship product in this faster than it takes us to fly to WA without special permission :P 

I think one has more freedom and creativity if he does not have to commercialise his passion (IMHO). And maybe that is why what Chanh does is so good.

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2 hours ago, rmpfyf said:

Meh, I still think that guy should have commercialised a bit...

I'm glad that hasn't happened. There's a great open source community out there, sharing code without looking to turn it into a commercial venture. Without that spirit of sharing, projects like this wouldn't have a kernel, a network stack, a userland, web server, supporting libraries. 

 

That said, a revenue stream shipping pre-built boxes might be .. a way to drown in a sea of support calls! 

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35 minutes ago, qwerter said:

I think one has more freedom and creativity if he does not have to commercialise his passion (IMHO). And maybe that is why what Chanh does is so good.

 

33 minutes ago, PCOWandre said:

I'm glad that hasn't happened. There's a great open source community out there, sharing code without looking to turn it into a commercial venture. Without that spirit of sharing, projects like this wouldn't have a kernel, a network stack, a userland, web server, supporting libraries. 

 

Chanh and co did/do a lot of work on hardware recipes.

 

It doesn't have to be terrible. Ian Jin (iancanada) does a great line of product for DIYers, could be something similar.

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10 hours ago, rmpfyf said:

Ian Jin (iancanada) does a great line of product

I've had a bit of a look at some of that line-up. Interesting, and I'm tempted to order some in for a fiddle when international shipping starts to return to normal.

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Just now, PCOWandre said:

I've had a bit of a look at some of that line-up. Interesting, and I'm tempted to order some in for a fiddle when international shipping starts to return to normal.

I have his stuff - epic and a lovely guy

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I'm curious to see if his reclocker makes any difference, but I'm not sure I have a use case right now. The loungeroom system is still using the PS Perfectwave (_not_ DS) and that claims to have reclocking/buffering inbuilt and as far as I can see, the clocks out of the Gustard U16 on my desktop system are pretty much on-target (those 'accusilicon' modules must be OK). I obviously need to built *another* system for such a project!

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19 minutes ago, PCOWandre said:

I'm curious to see if his reclocker makes any difference, but I'm not sure I have a use case right now. The loungeroom system is still using the PS Perfectwave (_not_ DS) and that claims to have reclocking/buffering inbuilt and as far as I can see, the clocks out of the Gustard U16 on my desktop system are pretty much on-target (those 'accusilicon' modules must be OK). I obviously need to built *another* system for such a project!

I'll share what I've got over PM.

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I've lost the battle for space in this latest renovation and need to put my switchgear up in the attic. Which it does not like.

 

Therefore I'm designing a fully-insulated small room for a server rack with closed loop ventilation. Hopefully it's free heating.

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5 hours ago, PCOWandre said:

It's the free heating in summer that bothers me. 

 

Fairly confident I can insulate and build an active cooling setup drawing air from inside the house (reckon I could even source air from under the house, which is quite nice) - it's where to exhaust it nicely to have some buoyancy in the system enough to have a marginal passive capability should power (or the active system) fail.

 

Have done some good thermal chamber builds previously, insulation should be OK.

 

Would be nice to not have to run dektite on the roof but... argh. 

 

Methinks I'm going to try the long argument to keep the kit in the house first up.

 

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