dbastin Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Ah, but if the creepy neighbour was the hardware shop assistant .. ? Would you say the Ubiquiti Edge range is similarly suitable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCOWandre Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, dbastin said: Would you say the Ubiquiti Edge range is similarly suitable? Just not as easy to configure and update. Unifi gives a "single pane of glass" for router, switch, wifi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbastin Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Thanks I discovered you need a minimum number devices to qualify for the online manangement of Edge devices. Is that the case with Unifi? Also, getting back to routers and fibre, the price of entry into Unifi is much higher than Edge. I am still inclined to get this unless the $100 or so extra expense is a waste ... will dual core matter? 400MHz v 800MHz? NB. I assume CRS is RouterSwitch. Edited September 22, 2020 by dbastin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCOWandre Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, dbastin said: Is that the case with Unifi? While there is a clowd management option for Unifi, all the software is free and I (and the other unifi users I know) self-host everything. Who wants to be locked out of network management because NBNCo has another two day outage? I self-host everything. And yes, I've had critical services (mail) running on 4G links for *three days* in the past because NBNCo broke it for the third time in less than a year. I hear those small 10G switches get bloody hot. If you're not doing 10G and don't need 10G, I wouldn't go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 To be fair the original suggestion was to prepare @dbastin to know what to ask a consultant. Not for consultation over a forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerter Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 19/09/2020 at 4:54 PM, Stereophilus said: Ok @rmpfyf... I read the long post. My problem, and I think the problem for some (most?) “digital audiophiles”, is we are not quite tech savvy enough to build our own server+streamer system, with software and network setup as you describe. I have little doubt what you describe would be the ducks nuts, but managing/monitoring/upgrading such a setup is a lot of knowledge to absorb and keep up with. I put it to you the reason most of us “tweak” is because we digest the smaller increments of knowledge and change to system more easily than going “all-in” as per your description. And the reason we buy brand name software/server/streamer solutions is because we treat these like audio components with warranties and support. I was in the same boat, wanted a dedicated music server, but didn't know where to start. Chanh offered to put one together for me and the result was stunning. I am not very tech savvy, but with Chanh help, managed to get it all up and going. It is amazing how helpful he is and how much time he volunteers for helping this community without any financial gain. We are privileged to have people like Chanh on this forum. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, qwerter said: I was in the same boat, wanted a dedicated music server, but didn't know where to start. Chanh offered to put one together for me and the result was stunning. I am not very tech savvy, but with Chanh help, managed to get it all up and going. It is amazing how helpful he is and how much time he volunteers for helping this community without any financial gain. We are privileged to have people like Chanh on this forum. Meh, I still think that guy should have commercialised a bit... @Chanh are you listening ? Not suggesting that it'll make you rich or that you should quit your day job, just that there's a good amount of revenue out there to be had and if the audiophile world can do with a dose of anything it's genuine effort... come on mate, if Taiko can sell one of their machines there's (more than) market space for anything of yours. I'd think there would be many happy to pay reasonable amounts for good tech. Particularly those of us in Victoria - $10 says you can start a business and ship product in this faster than it takes us to fly to WA without special permission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerter Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, rmpfyf said: Meh, I still think that guy should have commercialised a bit... @Chanh are you listening ? Not suggesting that it'll make you rich or that you should quit your day job, just that there's a good amount of revenue out there to be had and if the audiophile world can do with a dose of anything it's genuine effort... come on mate, if Taiko can sell one of their machines there's (more than) market space for anything of yours. I'd think there would be many happy to pay reasonable amounts for good tech. Particularly those of us in Victoria - $10 says you can start a business and ship product in this faster than it takes us to fly to WA without special permission I think one has more freedom and creativity if he does not have to commercialise his passion (IMHO). And maybe that is why what Chanh does is so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCOWandre Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, rmpfyf said: Meh, I still think that guy should have commercialised a bit... I'm glad that hasn't happened. There's a great open source community out there, sharing code without looking to turn it into a commercial venture. Without that spirit of sharing, projects like this wouldn't have a kernel, a network stack, a userland, web server, supporting libraries. That said, a revenue stream shipping pre-built boxes might be .. a way to drown in a sea of support calls! Edited September 23, 2020 by PCOWandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, qwerter said: I think one has more freedom and creativity if he does not have to commercialise his passion (IMHO). And maybe that is why what Chanh does is so good. 33 minutes ago, PCOWandre said: I'm glad that hasn't happened. There's a great open source community out there, sharing code without looking to turn it into a commercial venture. Without that spirit of sharing, projects like this wouldn't have a kernel, a network stack, a userland, web server, supporting libraries. Chanh and co did/do a lot of work on hardware recipes. It doesn't have to be terrible. Ian Jin (iancanada) does a great line of product for DIYers, could be something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCOWandre Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 10 hours ago, rmpfyf said: Ian Jin (iancanada) does a great line of product I've had a bit of a look at some of that line-up. Interesting, and I'm tempted to order some in for a fiddle when international shipping starts to return to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, PCOWandre said: I've had a bit of a look at some of that line-up. Interesting, and I'm tempted to order some in for a fiddle when international shipping starts to return to normal. I have his stuff - epic and a lovely guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCOWandre Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I'm curious to see if his reclocker makes any difference, but I'm not sure I have a use case right now. The loungeroom system is still using the PS Perfectwave (_not_ DS) and that claims to have reclocking/buffering inbuilt and as far as I can see, the clocks out of the Gustard U16 on my desktop system are pretty much on-target (those 'accusilicon' modules must be OK). I obviously need to built *another* system for such a project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, PCOWandre said: I'm curious to see if his reclocker makes any difference, but I'm not sure I have a use case right now. The loungeroom system is still using the PS Perfectwave (_not_ DS) and that claims to have reclocking/buffering inbuilt and as far as I can see, the clocks out of the Gustard U16 on my desktop system are pretty much on-target (those 'accusilicon' modules must be OK). I obviously need to built *another* system for such a project! I'll share what I've got over PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I've lost the battle for space in this latest renovation and need to put my switchgear up in the attic. Which it does not like. Therefore I'm designing a fully-insulated small room for a server rack with closed loop ventilation. Hopefully it's free heating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCOWandre Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 It's the free heating in summer that bothers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 5 hours ago, PCOWandre said: It's the free heating in summer that bothers me. Fairly confident I can insulate and build an active cooling setup drawing air from inside the house (reckon I could even source air from under the house, which is quite nice) - it's where to exhaust it nicely to have some buoyancy in the system enough to have a marginal passive capability should power (or the active system) fail. Have done some good thermal chamber builds previously, insulation should be OK. Would be nice to not have to run dektite on the roof but... argh. Methinks I'm going to try the long argument to keep the kit in the house first up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Hewer Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The only way to look at this thread is to answer thus: if you can afford to use routers,switches, and access points other than the ones supplied to you by your telco, do so. Not for the audio quality difference but rather for the reliability point of view. You will be able to spend more time listening to music. I picked up a second hand HP 1810G-24 port switch (it’s fanless) for $50. I spent real money on Ubiquiti Er4 router, and an Ubiquiti ACPro access point. I learned heaps and the best thing is nothing has ever stopped working for the last three years. The access point is probably the best money I have ever spent. I have two teenage kids who are avid gamers who stream at times and not once complained about their ping times as I am dragging files from the NAS and my better half is watching Netflix in 4K. The kids are on wired connections. I even setup VLANS so the kids couldn’t do anything nefarious to one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rmpfyf Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Edward Hewer said: I even setup VLANS so the kids couldn’t do anything nefarious to one another. Now that's some modern parenting, I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil c Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Lot of recent changes to my digital setup has presented challenges, with my limited knowledge of networks and seamless connection of multiple devices. Currently my system has QNAP NAS and Silent Angel Rhein Z1 Roon core server, Lumin U1 Mini streamer all connected direct to my standard Dual band Netcomm router. Also running an Ethernet cable from this router under the house to our study fed into a TP - Link network switch that is connected to our 2 computers, CCTV etc. Due to how weak the Wi-Fi signal is on the other side of the house, I have been running another router - a TP - Link AC1750 for our phones etc. not hardwired. I was keen to access Roon via my Bluesound node 2 streamer for outside music, so have run another ethernet cable from the TP - Link network switch directly into the Node 2 . It is on the same network as the Roon and Lumin plus NAS so simple right? My Problem is my phone can't connect to the same Wi-Fi network as the Node 2, as too weak without a cable, so diverts to the other network of the TP- Link router. So I can't connect or control Roon with it. Know some have mentioned Mesh style router setups, but looking for hopefully a simple solve like two networks combined. Would appreciate advice from some of you gurus out there! @todagt @frednork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wklie Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, evil c said: Due to how weak the Wi-Fi signal is on the other side of the house, I have been running another router - a TP - Link AC1750 for our phones etc. not hardwired. By default it does not work if you have more than one router on the network. You need to configure the TP-Link router to run in Access Point mode: https://www.tp-link.com/ae/support/faq/2066/ Edited October 7, 2020 by wklie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbastin Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, evil c said: Due to how weak the Wi-Fi signal is on the other side of the house, I have been running another router - a TP - Link AC1750 for our phones etc. not hardwired. Consider using an Access Point instead of that router which might be messing with things. The AP will give you strong wifi around the office. These are only $70. https://www.tp-link.com/au/home-networking/access-point/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbastin Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 SNAP! We must've posted at the same moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Mesh. Work well. How big is your budget for a mesh set-up?(Doesn't have to be huge, just selectively good. There's mesh and there's mesh...) Standard Netcom R, hmm. You on FTTN or FTTC. Two routers? Nuh. Wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil c Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, wklie said: By default it does not work if you have more than one router on the network. You need to configure the TP-Link router to run in Access Point mode: https://www.tp-link.com/ae/support/faq/2066/ Think you've hit the nail on the head! That should solve it perfectly- thanks guys! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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