punkindrublic Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 This is my set-up Pro-Ject RPM 3 Carbon Turntable with Ortofon 2M Silver Cartridge rega phono mm mk3 Yamaha RS202B (weakest link I think) KEF Q350 I think the silver stylus is nearly gone as the cartridge is almost touching the vinyl, though I've only had it 8 months now. I paid $550 for the turntable, the 2m blue stylus is nearly half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 12 hours ago, punkindrublic said: I think the silver stylus is nearly gone as the cartridge is almost touching the vinyl, I'd be checking the setup. Tracking force etc. Styluses don't wear down significantly and collapsed suspensions are fairly rare. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkindrublic Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 last night I tried pushing the counter-weight as far back as it would go (seat position on a see-saw) to bring the stylus up a bit. I seem to remember it being higher, its not hitting so maybe ok.. photos are hard to take/convey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muon* Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Do you have a stylus force gauge something like these? https://www.aliexpress.com https://www.ebay.com.au Edited September 2, 2020 by muon* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkindrublic Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 yeh mine is a plastic one which you have to balance. This is what the tonearm is looking like without a record to rest on, is that looking normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wen Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) i had a Ortofon 2M Bronze on my Rega Planar 2 with a Moth arm, always sat very close to the record, now have an Ortofon Quintet Blue MC , the cartridge body sits way above the record, can see the cantilever clearly. your picture of the cartridge on the record looks about the same as my Bronze used to be, never an issue, but looks so close Edited September 2, 2020 by wen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muon* Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, punkindrublic said: yeh mine is a plastic one which you have to balance. This is what the tonearm is looking like without a record to rest on, is that looking normal? Might pay to invest in a digital one like I posted, they are more accurate than any analogue types like the old fashion see-aw types. Can't tell anything from that pic, needs to be set at a force appropriate to manufacturers recommended range, I like to lean towards the higher end of those recommended ranges for a particular cart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I think it looks ok. Is the tracking weight correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I wouldn't go a 2M if you do buy another. I'd give this a try. I am running an OM10 (standard) on my Music Hall TT and it is amazing for the price, better than my 2M Blue in many ways. That one I linked would be better I'd imagine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, blakey72 said: I wouldn't go a 2M if you do buy another. I'd give this a try. I am running an OM10 (standard) on my Music Hall TT and it is amazing for the price, better than my 2M Blue in many ways. That one I linked would be better I'd imagine. Damn.... a hyper elliptical cartridge for $180 that is crazy..... you can't even find a stylus replacement on other model with that kind of money Edited September 3, 2020 by mloutfie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 minute ago, mloutfie said: Damn.... a hyper elliptical cartridge for $180 that is crazy..... you can't even find a stylus replacement on other model with that kind of money Yeah I'm tempted to give one a try. Also considered a OM20 stylus but that is cheaper and probably better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassmobian Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Very tempted to whack this onto a Concorde... But I only just replaced my 2M Blue stylus. I had originally planned to replace my 2M Blue with a Stylus 20 on the Concorde however they weren't in stock locally and with lockdown 2.0 on the horizon I had to settle for what was in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabijim Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 23 hours ago, wen said: i had a Ortofon 2M Bronze on my Rega Planar 2 with a Moth arm, always sat very close to the record, now have an Ortofon Quintet Blue MC , the cartridge body sits way above the record, can see the cantilever clearly. your picture of the cartridge on the record looks about the same as my Bronze used to be, never an issue, but looks so close i agree, looks compatible to the 2M carts i have also agree that those simple see-saw tracking force gauges are a low cost but valuable investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wen Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I have a Shure Stylus Pressure Guage that i have used for close to 40yrs, never had any issuse, always kept in original box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabijim Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 22 hours ago, blakey72 said: I wouldn't go a 2M if you do buy another. I'd give this a try. I am running an OM10 (standard) on my Music Hall TT and it is amazing for the price, better than my 2M Blue in many ways. That one I linked would be better I'd imagine. 9 hours ago, mloutfie said: Damn.... a hyper elliptical cartridge for $180 that is crazy..... you can't even find a stylus replacement on other model with that kind of money https://www.decibelhifi.com.au/jico-hyper-elliptical-stylus-for-ortofon-om-cartri $155 for just the stylus then you can whack it on the 2M cart body... (quickly, advert your eyes children!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, wasabijim said: https://www.decibelhifi.com.au/jico-hyper-elliptical-stylus-for-ortofon-om-cartri $155 for just the stylus then you can whack it on the 2M cart body... (quickly, advert your eyes children!) Really? Wow they fit straight onto any 2M body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabijim Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 yep, its a thing. even before 2020 bizarro set in i saw a thread comment a few years back, a quick google search brings up several points of reference on the idea, seems easy enough to do but I dare say for some/most of the 2M buyers its futurist appearance of the 2M that's most appealing, this hack does nothing for looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 hours ago, wasabijim said: but I dare say for some/most of the 2M buyers its futurist appearance of the 2M that's most appealing, this hack does nothing for looks I agree. Maybe you could cut away the actual stylus from of the old stylus plastic shell and put the remainder back on the cartridge just to hide the ugly bits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe latte Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 02/09/2020 at 10:02 PM, muon* said: Might pay to invest in a digital one like I posted, they are more accurate than any analogue types like the old fashion see-aw types. Can't tell anything from that pic, needs to be set at a force appropriate to manufacturers recommended range, I like to lean towards the higher end of those recommended ranges for a particular cart. Nothing wrong with Analogue scales, just as accurate as junk 10 dollar digital. Mine is stainless, it is Shure SFg2, great little scale which is always ready to use and you will never need it and find batteries are flat. My 2c, I shoot FTR and I am the coach of the Australian team. My digital scales for reloading cost over 1k. 50 dollar digital scales are available but I would not use one are they are just not accurate enough, a 10 dollar digital is worse again. One old shooter wanted to test his analogue beam scale so he made up some loads and put them in test tubes for me to check on my 1k digital scale. To my surprise his three load samples were seriously accurate proving there is nothing wrong with a beam scale. I use digital (very expensive digital) as I can measure repeatably very quickly. For stylus tracking force accuracy need only be 0.1 of a gram which even a cheap plastic beam scale will be and all decent ones will exceed and they never need batteries. My first 10 dollar digital scale died after a year and even a battery change did not help, my Shure is always ready to use. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe latte Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 03/09/2020 at 9:16 PM, wen said: I have a Shure Stylus Pressure Guage that i have used for close to 40yrs, never had any issuse, always kept in original box This is mine, early ones were magnetic new ones not, but like you say buy this and lasts forever. Mine lives under one of my turntables. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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