BugPowderDust 501 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 7 hours ago, KRSDarwin said: I found my (non-Sonos) endpoints (Mytek Brooklyn DAC+, Denon AVR, Schiit Jotunheim, NAD 330) were regularly defaulting to “enabling” and interrupting playback. I’m a little confused. Your non Sonos endpoints were interrupting Sonos endpoints in grouped zone? Or were the non sonos endpoints all playing RAAT disrupting each other? ive got 1.8 and run a wide mix of RAAT enabled devices in grouped zones and haven’t had many issues at all. The only that that happened to me was Roon losing connection to some zones so they fell out of the Roon interface. A reboot of the Roon server seemed to fix this. Link to post Share on other sites
A J 2,008 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 17 minutes ago, BugPowderDust said: I’m a little confused. Your non Sonos endpoints were interrupting Sonos endpoints in grouped zone? Or were the non sonos endpoints all playing RAAT disrupting each other? ive got 1.8 and run a wide mix of RAAT enabled devices in grouped zones and haven’t had many issues at all. The only that that happened to me was Roon losing connection to some zones so they fell out of the Roon interface. A reboot of the Roon server seemed to fix this. I've had the same issue with endpoints dropping out no - which seems to be a wider issue wit the new release, and yes a roon server reboot fixes this. If only there was an option to do this from the roon settings rather than having to trudge to the back of the house to physically reboot - I would be ok if I could reboot roon rock remotely. It seems less frequent now - hopefully shortly fully resolved. Until the uograde my system was rock solid (excuse pun). AJ Link to post Share on other sites
BugPowderDust 501 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, A J said: I would be ok if I could reboot roon rock remotely You can. 1. Work out what IP address Rock has. 2. Go to a web browser and in the address line punch in x.x.x.x which is the up address from 1. 3. press the reboot Roon server button 4. Wait 10 seconds 5. done 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Marc 12,920 Posted February 22 Administrators Share Posted February 22 The streaming giant has now announced "HiFi" - CD Quality streaming. We're going to need Spotify integration more than ever! https://www.stereo.net.au/news/spotify-hifi-cd-quality-streaming-announced 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BugPowderDust 501 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I wonder if Spotify are still playing hardball with Roon. Last time I spoke to Roon they said Spotify support was a pipe dream at best. Link to post Share on other sites
Hydrology 2,553 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 hours ago, A J said: I've had the same issue with endpoints dropping out no - which seems to be a wider issue wit the new release, and yes a roon server reboot fixes this. If only there was an option to do this from the roon settings rather than having to trudge to the back of the house to physically reboot - I would be ok if I could reboot roon rock remotely. It seems less frequent now - hopefully shortly fully resolved. Until the uograde my system was rock solid (excuse pun). AJ If you open the Settings, then "Configure Roon OS Core", it should give you a hyperlink to the IP address and take you to the Roon Core reboot section? Link to post Share on other sites
A J 2,008 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 29 minutes ago, Hydrology said: If you open the Settings, then "Configure Roon OS Core", it should give you a hyperlink to the IP address and take you to the Roon Core reboot section? Ahh look at that !!! right there is the value in this community - cheers !! And I considered myself a techo haha - back to the classroom for me Regards AJ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BugPowderDust 501 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 New Roon build is out there for download right now: https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-1-8-build-763-is-live/146696 I have just applied it and will let you know if it breaks anything Link to post Share on other sites
awayward 2,660 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I’ve updated and I’m happy that the two things I missed are back, album ratings on the albums view, and tags visible on tracks, I’m easily pleased 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 20 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 26/01/2021 at 6:48 PM, BugPowderDust said: Yeah I don’t have those issues. I do find the iOS app is a bit buggy lately though, unceremoniously kicking you out while using it. I have noticed this since the last update/face lift, the app is definitely more buggy the old one was very stable IMO 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Whites 405 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just updated to 763 and all good. Still hoping in a future release there are more choices for background colour. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 20 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On app or core? I just checked mine, app is 756 but core appears to be downloading an update as I checked Link to post Share on other sites
BugPowderDust 501 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, JCM said: On app or core? I just checked mine, app is 756 but core appears to be downloading an update as I checked Both should be 763 19 minutes ago, Whites said: Still hoping in a future release there are more choices for background colour. There’s a whole bunch of threads on the Roon forum on how you can hotrod your own themes and colours. see: https://community.roonlabs.com/t/change-roon-theme-colors/143411 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 20 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 🤔 My phone is iPhone 11 I think Edited February 24 by JCM Link to post Share on other sites
Whites 405 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 @BugPowderDust Thanks for the link, I will check it out. Link to post Share on other sites
deepthought 137 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I got another update, hot on the heels of one the other day. So that's the 3rd update in about a week if my memory serves me right. I guess there was quite a bit of "feedback" from users on the 1.8 update. https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-1-8-build-764-is-live/147048 Link to post Share on other sites
Ittaku 4,754 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Weird, I automatically updated the version on my roon server fine (to 764) and downloaded the latest 32 bit version for my PC (which runs roon on 32 bit wine on linux) only to find it's the same version and is still prompting me to download an updated version. The release notes DO only specify 64 bit windows version so it's stupid for the software to insist on an update that doesn't exist yet. Link to post Share on other sites
todagt 343 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) Latest Roon update broke the docker container's access to local storage, oh well. Since I can't be arsed mucking about with the server side anymore I just decided to reinstall it alongside TrueNas Scale 😬. Which did involve adding the debian repository in order to install ffmepg. Restored from backup and now all good. It also broke my 64bit install in wine on my manjaro laptop, Since it's arch I'm used to updates breaking things. Updated on the HTPC all fine tho, also running manjaro with 64bit Roon in wine. Good reminder to have frequent backups everyone 😎 Edited February 25 by todagt Link to post Share on other sites
hired goon 5,796 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) My Roon trial period expired yesterday 😞 Back to the Squeezebox web interface, or SqueezePad app, for playing tunes on my NAS, and the Tidal app for streaming. It was great to have a unified player, one that updated my library immediately, and the info provided (how one artists connects to another, every release an artist is associated with, etc) was so useful. I will really miss that. Waiting to see what will happen with Spotifies before deciding what to do next. --Geoff Edited February 25 by hired goon Link to post Share on other sites
Tobes 512 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 26/02/2021 at 10:17 AM, hired goon said: Waiting to see what will happen with Spotifies before deciding what to do next. Spotify's interface is way behind Roon IMO, no contest for music discovery and then there is the integration with your local library to consider. But perhaps the bigger issue for audiophile consideration of Spotify (once it goes to Redbook quality) is the way the software interfaces with the user's OS. Comparing Spotify to Roon/Tidal on my Windows laptop sounds far worse than I would normally expect dropping from 1411kbps to compressed 360kbps (volume levelling off). This is very obvious with just a Meizu dongle DAC and KSC75 earphones. I can see that Roon/Tidal is using WASAPI exclusive mode, but have no idea what Spotify is doing. Maybe Spotify sounds better direct to a streamer(?) - it would need to sound much, much better for me to even remotely consider it as an option. FWIW my Roon core runs on a 2020 M1 Mac Mini. SQ improvements are ongoing with Roon as they are catering to the audiophile market (1.8 has definitely improved over 1.7 which already sounded great) but I would have no confidence that Spotify has any interest in the development of platform SQ other than offering 1411kbps files as a 'feature'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Steffen 1,228 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 51 minutes ago, Tobes said: FWIW my Roon core runs on a 2020 M1 Mac Mini. Oooh, how are you liking the M1? I suppose it breaks no sweat running Roon and stays completely cool and silent? My 2012 mini handles Roon well, upsampling everything to DSD256. What it cannot cope with is doing DSP with DSD source files, because it needs to down-convert them to 384kbps PCM for that, and then back to DSD. That seems to be a killer. HQplayer fares even worse. Link to post Share on other sites
Tobes 512 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, Steffen said: Oooh, how are you liking the M1? I suppose it breaks no sweat running Roon and stays completely cool and silent? Yep, cool and silent for any application I've used. I was using a 2012 mini before upgrading. I have HQP but was only using it for PCM upsampling which only used a few percent cpu load. However I often use my mini to do other stuff while listening to music and sometimes this would cause the fan to spin up, particularly in summer. I had no pressing need to upgrade, but liked the idea of having a new 'toy'. Just transferred everything with the migration utility and worked seamlessly moving all my programs and data across. The M1 has noticeably slicker operation, even though many apps are running (seamlessly) with the background Rosetta Intel/Mac silicon translator. I purchased a MiniDsp Umik-1 a couple of months back and plan to play around with REW and convolution, but haven't got around to it yet. Everything sounds great, so not highly motivated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
davewantsmoore 6,740 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 24/02/2021 at 7:41 PM, BugPowderDust said: There’s a whole bunch of threads on the Roon forum on how you can hotrod your own themes and colours. see: https://community.roonlabs.com/t/change-roon-theme-colors/143411 OMG... we're saved 😃😀😄😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Steffen 1,228 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 48 minutes ago, davewantsmoore said: OMG... we're saved 😃😀😄😁 What, did you not fancy the purple? Counting down to another thread on the Roon forum, debating how the theme colours affect the sound – 3-2-1... Edited March 3 by Steffen It’s Roon, not Room, damn auto-correct... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
davewantsmoore 6,740 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 55 minutes ago, Steffen said: What, did you not fancy the purple? Seriously, between that and the unhideable "roon radio is going to play stuff later" (hint: no it isn't) .... I am embarrassed to show Roon to people. 55 minutes ago, Steffen said: Counting down to another thread on the Roon forum, debating how the theme colours affect the sound – 3-2-1... It probably does (the thing seems coded that badly). Link to post Share on other sites
Tobes 512 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, davewantsmoore said: It probably does (the thing seems coded that badly). Geez Dave, really? Apart from some issues finding the external dac on my Android phone, corrected with the quickly issued update, I haven't had any problems. Not everything to my liking, but I'll see what the next update brings. Edited March 3 by Tobes Link to post Share on other sites
davewantsmoore 6,740 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 25 minutes ago, Tobes said: Geez Dave, really? Apart from some issues finding the external dac on my Android phone, corrected with the quickly issued update, I haven't had any problems. 1.6 and 1.8 both have been quite buggy for me (and others worse from my reading).... I run on it on nearly all the available platforms, and none of them are great. Lots of losing zone states, and needing to enable/disable zones, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Ittaku 4,754 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 My biggest issue with 1.8 so far is my phone app just plain hangs often whenever I try to switch zones. The rest seems okay, though strangely slower than it used to be, and all versions sound the same to me. Link to post Share on other sites
barbz127 142 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 No complaints here with 1.8 - core is running on a 2011 mac mini and the fastest it has even been (searching, etc). Endpoints are either sotm streamers or chromecast audios and all have worked without issue. Link to post Share on other sites
Tobes 512 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 33 minutes ago, Ittaku said: My biggest issue with 1.8 so far is my phone app just plain hangs often whenever I try to switch zones. The rest seems okay, though strangely slower than it used to be, and all versions sound the same to me. Hope that can be sorted out for you in an update. My Android phone is working fine, but I use it for portable listening rather than switching zones so I wouldn't know if I have that issue. Likewise my Windows 10 laptop works fine. However most of my listening is through my main system directly from the core installation on my Mac Mini. The only zone switching I do is on the core install - to switch to HQPlayer or another dac, so probably not stressing the functionality. I cut Roon a bit of slack because it's probably not trivial with a major software update to ensure perfect interaction between different software platforms and potentially hundreds of different end points. Link to post Share on other sites
MattyW 2,334 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) I've a minor irritation with the play button moved to the right rather than the left. I don't like having to move the mouse cursor much to go between settings and play functions is all. The touchpad on my wireless keyboard is a bit flaky on my media PC. Then again, it's a minor irritation. I did have a problem where I needed to regularly reboot the server as an end point had dropped out though they appear to have resolved this for the most part. Edited March 3 by MattyW Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Kevy 9 Posted Saturday at 01:36 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:36 AM Any further news on the Spotify integration plans? It is one of the largest streaming platforms. Many of us subscribe to Spotify and/or Apple Music and it'll be great to be able to integrate! Link to post Share on other sites
sir sanders zingmore 12,437 Posted Saturday at 02:00 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:00 AM 17 minutes ago, Dr_Kevy said: Any further news on the Spotify integration plans? It is one of the largest streaming platforms. Many of us subscribe to Spotify and/or Apple Music and it'll be great to be able to integrate! There are no integration plans. Roon (via the Roon forums) have stated this many times. As an example -a very long one https://community.roonlabs.com/t/spotify-or-spotify-hifi-in-roon-spotify-will-not-allow-this/10562/275 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Kevy 9 Posted Saturday at 02:02 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:02 AM Shame, outside of airplay/bluetooth to my Hugo2/2Go it would be ideal to use the ROON platform for everything. Thanks for the quick answer. Link to post Share on other sites
Tobes 512 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago One of my peeves with the 1,8 upgrade was that the "Credits" tab changed from a legible sorted list to a bunch of circle pics with tiny writing, all spread out - making it difficult to see who did what. I can't imagine what Roon were thinking. But I've found that the Credits list is still available under the 3 dots beside the track listing. The list is so much more readable - and no tiny writing! Link to post Share on other sites
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