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Hi, new member here. I have a large room to fill but can only convince my wife to go with bookshelf speakers for aesthetics. There’s a pair of B&W 610’s I’m looking at on Gumtree. Ask is $150. How would they go? Am I setting myself up for failure by limiting myself to bookshelves? Advice appreciated.

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Hi Adam 

 

Welcome aboard mate.   What size is your room ?

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2 hours ago, Bombleadam said:

Hi, new member here. I have a large room to fill but can only convince my wife to go with bookshelf speakers for aesthetics. There’s a pair of B&W 610’s I’m looking at on Gumtree. Ask is $150. How would they go? Am I setting myself up for failure by limiting myself to bookshelves? Advice appreciated.

Do you mean B&W 601, if so that’s a good price, they were popular some 15 years and should be many reviews on them. A subwoofer be added to provide more bass and hidden from view if needed.

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1 hour ago, Bill125812 said:

Hi Adam 

 

Welcome aboard mate.   What size is your room ?

Thanks mate. Open plan kitchen, dining family room. Bout 6m x 8m.

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1 hour ago, Al.M said:

Do you mean B&W 601, if so that’s a good price, they were popular some 15 years and should be many reviews on them. A subwoofer be added to provide more bass and hidden from view if needed.

Definitely the B&W DM 610. Largish by bookshelf standards I think which is what I like about them. https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cheltenham/speakers/b-w-dm-610-speakers/1253888291?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=ios_VIP&utm_medium=social&utm_source=com.apple.uikit.activity.copytopasteboard

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Hmmm... that gumtree listing suggests 'upgraded woofers'... I'd question whether they are actually an upgrade. You can't simply replace the original woofers with aftermarket items and maintain the same sonic performance.

 

They look a lot like Jaycar drivers with the curved cone/integrated dust-cap.

 

I'd stay away from these speakers.

Edited by pete_mac

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28 minutes ago, pete_mac said:

Hmmm... that gumtree listing suggests 'upgraded woofers'... I'd question whether they are actually an upgrade. You can't simply replace the original woofers with aftermarket items and maintain the same sonic performance.

 

They look a lot like Jaycar drivers with the curved cone/integrated dust-cap.

 

I'd stay away from these speakers.

Agreed.

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51 minutes ago, pete_mac said:

Hmmm... that gumtree listing suggests 'upgraded woofers'... I'd question whether they are actually an upgrade. You can't simply replace the original woofers with aftermarket items and maintain the same sonic performance.

 

They look a lot like Jaycar drivers with the curved cone/integrated dust-cap.

 

I'd stay away from these speakers.

Good pickup. Thanks. I did notice the “upgrade”. Also says he still has the original woofers so could maybe have as a backup. Still, I don’t like the idea that they’ve been “tampered” with so to speak.

 

what do you think about the size? Could I get good results with with a similarly sized speaker and my room size? Or am I best off trying to convince my wife we need to get som floor standings?

 

its mainly home theatre and I enjoy cranking some tunes if I get the chance but no outrageous parties or anything.

 

i appreciate the advice.

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I reckon if he's replaced the originals, it is because the originals are damaged in some way (e.g. fried voice coils, damaged surrounds). Otherwise, there would be no reason to 'upgrade' from original B&W drivers to Jaycar drivers - it's a backwards step in my opinion.

 

One thing that will be missing in a room of that size with large bookshelf style speakers is bass extension. If you can augment the low end with, say, a second-hand 10" or 12" powered subwoofer, this would help to fill in the low end significantly - even at lower listening levels. 

 

Otherwise, yes, a larger pair of speakers with improved low end extension could be a good option, if you can the necessary permits from the Minister! ;)

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Thanks for the advice Pete. Much appreciated. I think I'll pass on these speakers and look for some others.

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Were you thinking of placing the speakers on a bookshelf? On a tablet or unit of some kind? On speaker stands? 
 

If the speakers are on a bookshelf or close to a wall you need to think about port position. 
 

If they will be on stands then they may occupy the same floor space as slim floor standers but speaker Ona stand does look different to a floor standing speaker.

 

Your room size can be catered to by some bookshelves. By that I mean ones big enough that they won't fit on actual bookshelves :) 

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1 hour ago, gwurb said:

Were you thinking of placing the speakers on a bookshelf? On a tablet or unit of some kind? On speaker stands? 
 

If the speakers are on a bookshelf or close to a wall you need to think about port position. 
 

If they will be on stands then they may occupy the same floor space as slim floor standers but speaker Ona stand does look different to a floor standing speaker.

 

Your room size can be catered to by some bookshelves. By that I mean ones big enough that they won't fit on actual bookshelves :) 

Thanks. Yeah, we have a large open cupboard type unit at the front of the room below the TV. About 4 metres wide by about .75m high. The plan is to put the speakers in there. I think if I could sell the idea of bookshelves on stands I'd probably be able to sell the idea of floor standing speakers so I'd go that way. For now I'm trying to find some speakers to sit on the shelves.

 

The unit is fixed to the wall and is pretty solid so should hold heavy bookshelf speakers if I can find some decent ones. Of course I'm limited in budget to about $250 which is why I'm looking second hand.

 

So yeah, in summary, I want great sound, small form factor and cheap price. Easy right? 😉 I'm pretty sure I'm dreaming. But I'll keep hunting.

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