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Hmmm... this smells pretty damn fishy from where I'm sitting. 

 

In addition to selling a bulk quantity of these Chromecast Audio devices at well below the regular price (including free worldwide shipping), the seller has also listed a variety bulky/heavy products (desks, welders, 1 and 2 gallon epoxy resin kits) for very cheap prices including worldwide shipping - at a fraction of the regular price. 

 

A bit of research and applying some common-sense goes a long way.

 

If it looks like a duck...

 

 

 

 

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Despite all these, there is not much downside, if you pay by Paypal. No financial loss, but only a likely realisation of what as expected. A scam that can only hurt E bay financially, but then they have plenty to spare.

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6 minutes ago, net said:

Despite all these, there is not much downside, if you pay by Paypal. No financial loss, but only a likely realisation of what as expected. A scam that can only hurt E bay financially, but then they have plenty to spare.

It may only hurt eBay (mind you it probably also hurts the person whose account may have been hacked) but it also potentially benefits a scammer.

Do you really want to do that?

 

Maybe a better alternative is to report it 

 

 

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"Maybe a better alternative is to report it "

 

Done that twice!, but staff there don't really care!, Also what can do about it?, as restricted by their "rules". Also, they should not pre-judged anyone, before any misdoing!

 

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2 hours ago, net said:

Despite all these, there is not much downside, if you pay by Paypal. No financial loss, but only a likely realisation of what as expected. A scam that can only hurt E bay financially, but then they have plenty to spare.

 

By throwing money at any of the items that the scammer is selling, he wins. This is what he is banking on - people hoping for a bargain and disabling their logic when hitting the buy button, or people hedging their bets and not caring due to the way that paypal system works - and he walks away with the money.

 

This is ABSOLUTELY the downside - we should not be enabling or encouraging a scam culture, regardless of whether it is the consumer or paypal who pays for the scam.

 

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The official advice from E bay is to write to them to enquire.

 

They are hoping that they are legitimate, and will adjust their buying/selling policy, when necessary.  Also, they have yet any complaint.

 

Sellers on E bay are not as protected as buyers, and it is E bay's way of encouraging business. No need to do policing for E bay or PayPal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, net said:

The official advice from E bay is to write to them to enquire.

 

They are hoping that they are legitimate, and will adjust their buying/selling policy, when necessary.  Also, they have yet any complaint.

 

Sellers on E bay are not as protected as buyers, and it is E bay's way of encouraging business. No need to do policing for E bay or PayPal.

 

 

56 minutes ago, net said:

A recent message from seller:

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new message from: russel-3847 (39Yellow Star)

dear friend
The project is made in China with low cost. Please don‘t worry.
thank you!

 
Reply

 

53 minutes ago, net said:

Maybe now, we should be telling GOOGLE about their illegitimate devices, made without their knowledge?

 

 

Hmmm... writing to a seller to check if they are a scammer... sounds somewhat disingenuous, don't you think? What kind of response do you honestly expect to receive?  

 

Seriously... if you can honestly look at the suite of the items he is selling (heavy welders, desks, epoxy kits, and the Google device), consider the stupidly low pricing including free worldwide shipping (it would cost more to ship some of these items than the selling price of the items themselves!) and be satisfied that this is legitimate... then I wish you luck with your purchase.

 

Sorry, but you are switching-off the rational part of your brain in favour of hopefully scoring a bargain.

 

Of course ebay have received no complaints - the seller has sold bulk quantities of each item over the past few days. There has been no time for people to realise the items aren't arriving as planned...

 

I'm looking forward to seeing where this debacle heads over the next month or two. I predict no tracking details being provided when the items are claimed to be shipped, and a fairly swift departure by the seller after emptying their linked bank account, while ebay and paypal are left to clean up the mess.

 

BTW Google have nothing to do with this. I'm not implying a forgery or the sale of illegitimate devices - there's nothing for sale here apart from a picture on an ebay listing and thin air, hopes and dreams! ;)

 

 

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It's actually not a bad scam. Low priced goods sold for an even lower price. You attract lots of people who say "it's a cheap gamble, even if it  is a scam I won't lose much."

As opposed to selling an expensive item at a too-good-to-be-true price which still involves quite a lot of money 

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5 minutes ago, sir sanders zingmore said:

It's actually not a bad scam. Low priced goods sold for an even lower price. You attract lots of people who say "it's a cheap gamble, even if it  is a scam I won't lose much."

As opposed to selling an expensive item at a too-good-to-be-true price which still involves quite a lot of money 

 

Damn straight it is!

 

Just over $AUD 11,500 worth of sales over the past four or five days - and still some way to go before all items are sold out. Not bad for a week's work... er... scamming!

 

 

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Not backing this seller/scammer whatever but  there is something odd with the Chromecast audios in general, one day there were hundreds in stock at each jb hifi and then the next day everything was withdrawn from sale, not sold but pulled.

 

I'm wondering if there was something going on between google and Sonos or someone else that forced their hand to pull them from sale.

 

Based on this I always figured there were large allotments of stock that would hit the market over the years.

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"Sorry, but you are switching-off the rational part of your brain in favour of hopefully scoring a bargain."

 

you are getting personal! Do you have any schooling?

 

Why not go next step?

 

"Maybe now, we should be telling GOOGLE about their illegitimate devices, made without their knowledge?"

 

It is a Google Chrome-cast Audio, a device legitimately made by google.

 

What do you mean by "..Google have nothing to do with this."

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25 minutes ago, net said:

"Sorry, but you are switching-off the rational part of your brain in favour of hopefully scoring a bargain."

 

you are getting personal! Do you have any schooling?

 

Why not go next step?

 

Sorry if I have offended you - this is not intended to be a personal attack. I am only hoping that some common-sense will prevail. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water... 

 

Do I have any schooling? Plenty, thanks for asking! 

 

 

25 minutes ago, net said:

 

"Maybe now, we should be telling GOOGLE about their illegitimate devices, made without their knowledge?"

 

It is a Google Chrome-cast Audio, a device legitimately made by google.

 

What do you mean by "..Google have nothing to do with this."

 

There is no need to tell Google about "the illegitimate devices, made without their knowledge".

 

There are no illegitimate devices made without their knowledge.

 

There are no devices being sold here at all.

 

It's a file photo being used in the ebay listing. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Look out... a new addition to the seller's store:

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Google-Home-Mini-Smart-Assistant-Charcoal/164308561801?hash=item26418daf89:g:UI8AAOSwqrZa8ECU&frcectupt=true  ($12 delivered)

 

Text stolen word-for-word from here:

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Google-Home-Mini-Smart-Assistant-Charcoal-/173631891192 ($55 delivered).

 

Let's take bets on how many will be sold within 24 hours. I'm guessing 87.

 

 

 

 

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"There are no illegitimate devices made without their knowledge."

Do you truly believe that? How do you know?  If you got things made in China-they can be made without their consent! Moreover, things can be reversed engineered. 

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18 minutes ago, net said:

Google Home Mini - Smart Speaker with Google Assistant - Chalk

$29.00
Sale at Target

 

That's Target in the USA. You can currently grab these for around $40 in Australia.  However, I'm not quite sure why you posted the link. I think you are missing my point entirely.

 

This may be of interest too... the ebay seller has increased the available quantity of the Google Chromecast 38 times within 24 hours! 

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/rvh/164305627940?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l48144

 

The welder... even more frequenty!

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/rvh/164281191624?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l48144

 

Desks - not so many revisions:

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/rvh/164299700442?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l48144

 

Similar patterns for the epoxy:

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/rvh/164298365213?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l48144

 

 

Now... either the seller has incredibly poor inventory control (I guess it must be hard keeping track of hundreds of pretend Google devices, welders, chairs, desks and epoxy resin kits inside an imaginary warehouse) or he is waiting until there are only a few items left before bumping up the available quantity and creating the impression that buyers should buy now or risk missing out on these invisible bargains.

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, net said:

"There are no illegitimate devices made without their knowledge."

Do you truly believe that? How do you know?  If you got things made in China-they can be made without their consent! Moreover, things can be reversed engineered. 

 

Hmm...  firstly, for some reason you've completely changed your earlier post.

 

Secondly... you are taking my words out completely of context.

 

When I referred to Google not being relevant, I am talking about this seller, this situation, and the discussion in this thread. My comments are all about this thread - not a wider statement about counterfeiting in the marketplace. Let's try to keep the discussion in-context please!

 

Everybody is aware that there are fake goods for sale on the internet. However... I haven't once suggested that this seller is trying to sell fake Chromecast Audios.

 

What I have suggested is that he is selling Chromecast Audios which he doesn't have in stock - just like the rest of his wares. This isn't a counterfeit goods scam - it's a bunch of 'too-good-to-be-true' deals with tell-tale signs all over it. There are countless discussion threads on the ebay community forums and elsewhere on the internet - this not a new thing!

 

As I said earlier, I hope that common-sense will prevail... but I am not holding my breath.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, sir sanders zingmore said:

But the seller said "please don't worry" so I'm sure it'll be fine

Thats good enough for me. Im ordering 10! 🙃 Can i pay via direct deposit ???

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PayPal isnt always safe. I got scammed with paypal buying a SD Card off ebay and the seller sent a chinese Coin instead. Because he sent a package with postal details. Even though Ebay closed his account the day after the sale as many people got scammed and they figured it out straightaway (before the product arrived, it was literally the day after). I started a claim with paypal and showed that ebay had officially declared it as a scam and closed the account and sent out emails to everyone about it. But still Paypal came back to me and said he has sent the item and they have postal details so i need to wait. Then when it arrived it was a coin, i contacted Ebay and paypal again,  Paypal told me in order to get a refund i need to send the coin back. The SD card was around $15-17 i believe, the postal charges to return the coin with tracking was roughly the same amount. So I gave up on paypal  / ebay and went to my bank and did a claim on my credit card (chargeback), luckily the Bank was much nicer and straight away complied. 

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12 minutes ago, ethro said:

Thats good enough for me. Im ordering 10! 🙃 Can i pay via direct deposit ???

 

You've got some competition - there have been a few bulk buyers of the Chromecast and the expoy resin! Better get in quick in case you miss out on your package of nothingness!

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15 minutes ago, lonewolf said:

PayPal isnt always safe. I got scammed with paypal buying a SD Card off ebay and the seller sent a chinese Coin instead. Because he sent a package with postal details. Even though Ebay closed his account the day after the sale as many people got scammed and they figured it out straightaway (before the product arrived, it was literally the day after). I started a claim with paypal and showed that ebay had officially declared it as a scam and closed the account and sent out emails to everyone about it. But still Paypal came back to me and said he has sent the item and they have postal details so i need to wait. Then when it arrived it was a coin, i contacted Ebay and paypal again,  Paypal told me in order to get a refund i need to send the coin back. The SD card was around $15-17 i believe, the postal charges to return the coin with tracking was roughly the same amount. So I gave up on paypal  / ebay and went to my bank and did a claim on my credit card (chargeback), luckily the Bank was much nicer and straight away complied. 

 

Yep, there are plenty of examples of this kind of thing. Not cool!

 

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8 hours ago, pete_mac said:

 

...people hoping for a bargain and disabling their logic ...

 

 

Unfortunately I was drinking, so rejected your logic and substituted my own.   :ermm:

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1 minute ago, Monk said:

 

Unfortunately I was drinking, so rejected your logic and substituted my own.   :ermm:

 

Ah alcohol...  the great social and fiscal lubricant!

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Seen too many scams like this , no point having your money tied up for months , and you might forget to launch a dispute with PayPal , there goes your money...

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The seller said it's fine so I'm in! ........................Not.....

 

If I wanted one I'd be finding one sold in Australia even if it's full price and keeping the money here..

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It is a hoax! Soon it will disappear!

 

Stable genius should  backed it up by saying he will jump into a lake or off a cliff, if it didn't!

 

Dick Smith and Kogan is selling  Google Home Mini for $36, cheaper than USD$29 at Target USA.

 
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5 minutes ago, sir sanders zingmore said:

I don’t think the home mini is a substitute for the chromecast audio

No, I don't think so too.  It was brought up in the postings.

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1 hour ago, net said:

It is a hoax! Soon it will disappear!

 

Stable genius should  backed it up by saying he will jump into a lake or off a cliff, if it didn't!

 

As the poster of this "bargain" (and you yourself noted in the first post that it might be a scam), it's good to see that you're finally seeing reason.

 

However, there's no need to get nasty... being called names on the internet might hurt my rather fragile feelings! ;)

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Aaaaand the seller's auctions have finally been shut down.

 

Geez he's managed to sell a shedload of invisible goodies in the meantime!

 

 

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