rx79ez08 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) No balanced cable included with the Pro, but with an extra set of earpads. The headphones itself is the same. Edited July 23, 2020 by rx79ez08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwampjism Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 23/07/2020 at 11:10 PM, shadroth said: Are the clear professional the same just with a different color scheme and some more accessories? Pair on gumtree for $1395 And has that concluded the consultancy phase? Did you snap those up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroth Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 hours ago, mugwampjism said: And has that concluded the consultancy phase? Did you snap those up? Haha not yet! didn't end up getting those. Just gotta watch the classifieds/gumtree etc for a deal. I have seen the LCD-2C has gone down a bit, those are pretty tempting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwampjism Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I have LCD 2 and focal elear/Elegia and would 100% recommend focal over Audeze. Even the Elegia over the LCD. Build quality, looks, accessories, comfort, and of course sound. When I was younger I turned the bass up on everything, LCD 2 would have been ideal. But I rarely need as much bass as what the LCDs insist upon with every recording. It doesn't ruin the mids or highs, but it does a bit if you remove the bass with EQ. Real shame you can't audition them. Maybe you can buy them both second hand and sell the one you dislike? A covid19 audition, if you will? They are like chalk and cheese. What do you listen to? I don't think that's been covered here. Both source and style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroth Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, mugwampjism said: I have LCD 2 and focal elear/Elegia and would 100% recommend focal over Audeze. Even the Elegia over the LCD. Build quality, looks, accessories, comfort, and of course sound. When I was younger I turned the bass up on everything, LCD 2 would have been ideal. But I rarely need as much bass as what the LCDs insist upon with every recording. It doesn't ruin the mids or highs, but it does a bit if you remove the bass with EQ. Real shame you can't audition them. Maybe you can buy them both second hand and sell the one you dislike? A covid19 audition, if you will? They are like chalk and cheese. What do you listen to? I don't think that's been covered here. Both source and style I listen to a pretty wide variety of stuff. Rock, metal, acoustic, classical, edm, so one headphone probably wont be perfect for everything. I also game a bit so something that'd work for that as well as music would be great. I did get myself a drop thx 789 amp so i shouldnt have any issues driving most headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwampjism Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, shadroth said: I listen to a pretty wide variety of stuff. Rock, metal, acoustic, classical, edm, so one headphone probably wont be perfect for everything. Plenty of power is good, that will do nicely. But, by source I mean are you using Spotify or a MP3/FLAC library, cd player, vinyl, are you using your laptop or phone, steaming over Sonos, LAN server, where does your music live and how is it delivered to your amp/headphones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroth Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, mugwampjism said: Plenty of power is good, that will do nicely. But, by source I mean are you using Spotify or a MP3/FLAC library, cd player, vinyl, are you using your laptop or phone, steaming over Sonos, LAN server, where does your music live and how is it delivered to your amp/headphones? Music i listen to lives on a NAS and played through foobar, mostly all flac files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwampjism Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) In my mind it is settled. Clear is the winner. LCD 2 might be more fun with your EDM, but Clear will hands down win with classical rock and metal, and acoustic might be a tie. Build quality is something to consider. Audeze with the leather strap is nice, but it looks nicer on the stand than it looks or feels on the head, and feels wobbly. It's an old jalopy, Focal brings typical European styling and build, close manufacturing tolerances, precise movement and nice fit I want to stop talking about it and just show you. It's a shame we don't live close, I'd bring it round. Perhaps we can find a mod to escrow, and see how much postage would be, for my selection to take a tour of Melbourne and you can get a taste of what you're considering. Probably just a massive pain in the ass for not-quite-the-headohones-you're-considering, maybe there's an SNAer nearby who can fix U up.. Edited August 5, 2020 by mugwampjism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroth Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, mugwampjism said: In my mind it is settled. Clear is the winner. LCD 2 might be more fun with your EDM, but Clear will hands down win with classical rock and metal, and acoustic might be a tie. Build quality is something to consider. Audeze with the leather strap is nice, but it looks nicer on the stand than it looks or feels on the head, and feels wobbly. It's an old jalopy, Focal brings typical European styling and build, close manufacturing tolerances, precise movement and nice fit I want to stop talking about it and just show you. It's a shame we don't live close, I'd bring it round. Perhaps we can find a mod to escrow, and see how much postage would be, for my selection to take a tour of Melbourne and you can get a taste of what you're considering. Probably just a massive pain in the ass for not-quite-the-headohones-you're-considering, maybe there's an SNAer nearby who can fix U up.. I think i might just have to wait til dan andrews says we can go to the shops, or just take the plunge and buy some clears if i can find a good deal. I'm sure clears would be better than my old SRH-1440's and ive heard so many good things so i'm pretty confident in buying them without auditioning. Borrowing someone's headphones would be great but as you said probably a huge pain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwampjism Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, shadroth said: would be better than my old SRH-1440 well that's true, either one will at least be an enjoyable upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTobiasFunke Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 05/08/2020 at 11:01 AM, mugwampjism said: In my mind it is settled. Clear is the winner. LCD 2 might be more fun with your EDM, but Clear will hands down win with classical rock and metal, and acoustic might be a tie. Chalk up another vote for Focal Clear!! In fact... I prefer it to the LCD 2 for EDM (which is mostly what I listen to). LCD 2 just sounds too dark (veiled) to me. I was surprised to discover how much personal preferences for tonal qualities can effect the impressions I have of headphones. (Yep, I know... duh!) My audition process involved buying some second hand pairs to try out at home. I was gobsmacked when I first put on the LCD 2's... I was expecting so much.... but I instantly knew they weren't the ones I was looking for. I was naively expecting that I would listen to them, and have a similar opinion to the consensus of so many positive reviews.... Nope. Life isn't that simple. When I put on my Clear's for the first time... magic! The search was over. The moral of the story: You will know them when you hear them. None of us can accurately predict which ones you will prefer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroth Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 I got a pair of focal clears from a member on here, very happy with them so far but ive only had them on my head for about an hour haha. Thanks again for all the suggestions/advice to everyone in the thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach3 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 If the LCD2 are too dark, what about the LCD-X. I wonder if anyone with both the clear and LCD-X can compare the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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