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Maybe perversely (for this forum), but I'm interested in spending the least to get the required effect. I'm tossing up between these two receivers and the main differences I can see are 100W vs 95 W (8 Ω, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 2 channel driven, FTC), a lack of multi point room correction on the 780, and fewer inputs as well - which won't be an issue. To start it'll mainly be used for movies, digital music, and my Rega P3 (through a Vincent PHO-8 pre-amp). Speakers are Aaron ATS-5s, which I finally get to pull out of storage, as well as the matching CC-240 centre speaker as well as a Yamaha NSW-100 wireless subwoofer cause I'm really interested to see how it performs.

 

I'm in a relatively small space and think the 780 should be enough, but would appreciate any advice - I would be happy to be talked up to a 1080, but know it would be a waste.

 

(If you have a strong opinion about another line of receivers, I'm also happy to hear that and perhaps you'd be willing to pick up a bargain of a wireless subby. :) )

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I think you've really answered your own question.  The 780 is the baseline model meets your requirements without extras you say you won't need.  Both the 880 and 1080 come with pre-outs as well if you ever wanted to add external amplification, but in the short term I really don't think it's a likely requirement.  

 

The 1080 does add a bunch of sound processing options (the one thing I think is a strength of Yamaha, but my experience is with a much older unit).  It also adds HDMI output for a second zone, but the price gets close to doubling.  If you don't need those functions, go with the cheapest option and use that to inform a future purchase a few years down the track when you might know what weaknesses you have in your current system that need addressing or you're looking to upgrade.  If you're not limited to Yamaha, take a look at the competing options at the same price point, but I doubt you'll be disappointed with any well known AVR option.

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No need for the 1080 by the sounds of it, but it you go the 880 now you will stave off the upgrade-itis for longer.

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Thank you both for your replies. I know something of "upgrade-itis", but as Wembley says better to settle on something and address the weakness later on - I am deliberating on adding a 2ch amp to the set up.

 

I found a great deal on the A880 and have pulled the pin. Hopefully tinkering with the setup will make lockdown a little more bearable.

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It's funny how life works out. Due to a shortage of stock on the A880 I was offered an ex-demo A1080 for a song. It is definitely way more machine than I need, but boy does it look nice on the shelf - and it will definitely keep upgradeitis at bay for a while - on the AV receiver front, anyway. :)

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I got a rxv1085 on special. It's more then what I need but when a few features I wanted kind of forced me to move up to this model. I really like the Yamaha GUI and I'm used to it so decided to stick with it. I wanted preouts and I wanted more then one AV in. I also wanted the ability to run a second zone. If I could have these features in the 780 that's what I would have bought. In my case it would have been a case of buy cheap buy twice.

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FYI, YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement start at the RX-A880. Then the RX-A1080 comes with YPAO R.S.C. with Multipoint measurement and 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation. So that is some additional benefit.

 

The RX-A2080 comes with YPAO R.S.C. with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

Finally the RX-A3080 comes with YPAO R.S.C. with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit High Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

So the further you go up in model, the better the features of YPAO you get. Much like what other brands do.

 

I recommend reading this "Yamaha YPAO Configuration – The Right Way" article:

 

https://simpleonline.blog/2017/05/23/yamaha-ypao-configuration-the-right-way/

 

Note: Only YPAO in higher end Yamaha receivers will allow you to do  angle measurement.

 

One other thing to note is the RX-A880 comes with Burr-Brown DAC x 4 for main zone, while the RX-A1080 has ESS SABRE Premier DAC ES9007S. See:

 

https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a880/australia/yamaha-rx-a1080/australia/

   

You may already know. But if you don't.....

 

You can access your Yamaha Receiver's setup via a web browser and its IP Address (use the settings button on the remote to find your Receivers IP address) with the following URL:

 

http://(insert IP address here)/Setup/index.html

 

eg:

http://10.0.0.29/Setup/Index.html

 

You will see something like this graphic here:

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=2569276&d=15

 

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2569276&d=1558388770

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=2569274&d=15

 

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2569274&d=1558388766

 

Images taken from this thread:

 

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/3002676-official-yamaha-rx-a3080-rx-a2080-rx-a1080-aventage-avr-thread-33.html#post58075342

 

You can also backup and restore your AVR's configuration. You have to browse just to the IP Address to get the backup/restore option:

 

http://10.0.0.29/

 

If you go to http://10.0.0.29/Setup/Index.html that option isn't there.

 

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Thank you for that excellent post! Lot there to digest.

 

Main thing being that with the wireless sub connected, I can't do multipoint measurements (which seems like great feature) so will connect the sub and use the guide you provided. 

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What can I do with the apps?

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The Yamaha A880 seems good value at the right price

is the Yamaha A1080 much of a difference?
 

, the A2080 seems great, but I dont think the extra power is worth the extra cost for me

 

the online adjusting seems convenient for the Yamaha amps

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2 hours ago, Faust said:

What can I do with the apps?

I'm still getting my head around them, but the AV controller app is a replication of the AV unit's remote. The bonus is that because the app can have multiple screens and more room it can show the functions rather than trying to remember, or guess, what "scene 1" is. 

 

It also seems to have easily available functions that are usually only available in the settings of the unit, like "dialogue level" and "tone control".

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On 08/07/2020 at 2:00 PM, rakehell said:

Thank you both for your replies. I know something of "upgrade-itis", but as Wembley says better to settle on something and address the weakness later on - I am deliberating on adding a 2ch amp to the set up.

 

I found a great deal on the A880 and have pulled the pin. Hopefully tinkering with the setup will make lockdown a little more bearable.

Sounds like you got the AVR sorted. 

 

And would recommend a good second hand 2 channel amp and a Gieseler Audio DAC for music later on. An amp with HT bypass could make things simple. 

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23 hours ago, larry42 said:

The Yamaha A880 seems good value at the right price

is the Yamaha A1080 much of a difference?
 

, the A2080 seems great, but I dont think the extra power is worth the extra cost for me

 

Did have a read of this features comparison between the RX-A880 and RX-A1080?

 

https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a880/australia/yamaha-rx-a1080/australia/

 

RX-A880 comes with Burr-Brown DAC x 4 for main zone, while the RX-A1080 has ESS SABRE Premier DAC ES9007S

 

Have a read of this features comparison between the RX-A1080 and RX-A2080:

 

https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a1080/australia/yamaha-rx-a2080/australia/

 

  More channels, power and extra DAC. But there are other differences as well.

 

RX-A880 has YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement.

 

RX-A1080 has YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement and 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation.

 

RX-A2080 has YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

RX-A3080 has YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit High Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

I guess it depends what how much money and features are important to you as to what your buy.

 

You can get the RX-A2080 cheaper ($1,999.00), as a Refurb on the Excel HiFi Web Site. Or a RX-A880 for $999.00. See:

 

https://www.excelhifi.com.au/audio-visual-receivers/

 

But the current pricing of the Refurb units isn't the best price I've seen from Excel HiFi. Still cheaper than new I guess. But you do only get 2 years warranty, not 4 years.

 

Excel HiFi have Refurb RX-V1085 model on their eBay store now for $1,599.00. See:

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/YAMAHA-RX-V1085-AV-Receiver-Aus-Warranty/174351818693

 

But it's not listed on the Web site here:

 

https://www.excelhifi.com.au/audio-visual-receivers/

 

They also have the RX-V2085 for $1799.00. See:

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/YAMAHA-RX-V2085-AV-Receiver-Aus-Warranty-/124263545896

 

 

What is Refurbished?

 

https://www.excelhifi.com.au/what-is-refurbished-en.html

 

Warranty:

 

https://www.excelhifi.com.au/warranty.html

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On 18/07/2020 at 12:54 PM, Faust said:

What can I do with the apps?

AV SETUP GUIDE

 

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Yamaha AV Receiver Setup Guide App
 
The AV SETUP GUIDE is an application that assists you with cable connections between the AV receiver and source devices as well as setting up the AV receivers settings. This app guides you through the various settings such as speaker connections, TV and source device connections and assigning the power amplifiers for your desired speaker output. System illustrations and actual AV receiver images help you easily understand how to make the connections between each device. If your receiver is connected to the network, the setting parameters on this app will automatically be copied and applied to your AV receiver.

 

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/apps/av_setup_guide/index.html

 

 

AV Controller App

 

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Network AV Receiver / Blu-ray Player Control App

This AV Controller App will turn your smartphone or tablet into a Wi-Fi smart remote control for your Yamaha network products. This App provides the flexibility to control input, volume, DSP modes and multizone operations. Music Play feature allows you to stream music directly from your smartphone or tablet to Yamaha network products to so you can enjoy high quality music through your AV system. This App not only controls Yamaha AV Receivers, it also controls Blu-ray Disc™ Players, supporting various functions including Play, Stop and Forward.

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/apps/av_controller/index.html

 

 

MusicCast Controller

 

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MusicCast Controller

Control all your equipment with just a single app.

  • Listen to streaming music services including TIDAL, Deezer, Pandora®, Spotify, Qobuz, Napster®, SiriusXM Internet Radio and thousands of free internet radio stations*
  • Listen to music stored on your smartphone, tablet, computer or network attached storage (NAS) devices
  • Access external sources connected to your MusicCast device, which may include HDMI®, optical, digital coax, analog and/or phono inputs (varies by device)
  • Select Bluetooth® as an input to a MusicCast device and redistribute the stream via Wi-Fi® to other MusicCast devices
  • Control basic functions like volume, mute, tone controls and sound settings
  • Link function lets you play the same song in different rooms simultaneously
  • Customize the room screen with your own pictures
  • Set a MusicCast device to output to a Bluetooth speaker or Bluetooth headphones you may already own

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/apps/musiccast_controller/index.html

 

Others listed here:

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/apps/index.html

 

 

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