blakey72 Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, progladyte said: I had bought heaps of bottles at the time so though, bugger it...... I like your attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_Relish Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 This :- 6L Ultrasonic Tank ($199) Plus this :- KIT ($165) Plus this :- 240V Rotisserie Motor ($50) So $414 as a DIY kit. Or cheaper if you make the kit part yourself :- DIY Ultrasonic Record Cleaner Bunnings Style Mr Relish 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progladyte Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, blakey72 said: I like your attitude It tastes nice too! Like a bottle of nice Shiraz, only shite! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregWormald Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Remember to allocate about $60 or so for a wet shop vac (Bunnings) and use a slotted tube covered in a velvet microfibre (one end closed) to suck the records dry. This takes about a minute and leaves the record ready to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Jones Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I use a hairdryer to dry the LP's off after cleaning, then straight into a new sleeve. One thing I have found is turn the records very slowly. My US cleaner does 1 revolution every 12min and for old LP's I have purchased I do 2 revolutions 24min. I have an eBay 6L bath and do 2 LP's at a time, if you don't have at least 25mm around the LP's you do not get good cavitation so cleaning is not as good. Solution is distilled water and 2% IPA with a few ml of photo solution for a surfactant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_mike Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 It's actually about 40mm you need all around. Regardless, the exciters in those Chinese tanks only have enough power for one record at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Jones Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 12 hours ago, t_mike said: It's actually about 40mm you need all around. Regardless, the exciters in those Chinese tanks only have enough power for one record at a time. Not my experience. I clean 2 at a time and have re-cleaned all the LP's that were cleaned with the VRCM and the junk in the bottom of the tank after 6-8 LP's was enough to need filtering the solution and wiping the bottom of the tank. I have a Stevie Wonder LP that I cleaned multiple times on the VRCM and the stylus was still dredging crap out of the groove. This is what inspired me to build the USRCM. 1x 24min run through the US and all the crud was gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_mike Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Warren Jones said: Not my experience. I clean 2 at a time and have re-cleaned all the LP's that were cleaned with the VRCM and the junk in the bottom of the tank after 6-8 LP's was enough to need filtering the solution and wiping the bottom of the tank. I have a Stevie Wonder LP that I cleaned multiple times on the VRCM and the stylus was still dredging crap out of the groove. This is what inspired me to build the USRCM. 1x 24min run through the US and all the crud was gone. I agree that vac is useless on it's own. I spin my records at about 2 rpm for 10 minutes at 35 degrees celcius, and vac dry. I too get a tank full of crud very quickly, but don't get too excited about it as the vac takes any residue out of the grooves. It's all horses for courses, as long as your method works for you. In the end, do the math and we're both energising the records to about the same level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honreekea Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Can I just pay someone in Sydney to US clean my records??? ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 08/07/2020 at 7:47 PM, t_mike said: It's actually about 40mm you need all around. Regardless, the exciters in those Chinese tanks only have enough power for one record at a time. It's 40mm for a 40kHz tank, Mike ... only 25mm for a 60kHz tank. But, yes, the cheapest tanks may not have enough power for multiple LPs simultaneously. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 05/07/2020 at 6:51 PM, Cardiiiii said: I reckon the Pro Ject coupled with an ultrasonic cleaner is the way to go. It certainly is. That's what I use and the double-team is a great way to go. Pro-Ject VC-S vs Okki, I'd go Pro-Ject. I had a lot of issues with my Okki - not to mention the local distributor for them is a bit of a flog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm1111 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, TDK said: It certainly is. That's what I use and the double-team is a great way to go. Pro-Ject VC-S vs Okki, I'd go Pro-Ject. I had a lot of issues with my Okki - not to mention the local distributor for them is a bit of a flog. Out of interest, do you just use the VC-S for vacuuming, or do you use the cleaning fluid on it as well after the US cleaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, markm1111 said: Out of interest, do you just use the VC-S for vacuuming, or do you use the cleaning fluid on it as well after the US cleaning? I use the VC-S first with a home brew solution, vacuum it, and then into the US. You want to make sure the record is fairly dry before you put it into the US otherwise you'll contaminate the pure water in it. That can cause issues with foaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progladyte Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Honreekea said: Can I just pay someone in Sydney to US clean my records??? ...... I guess that would depend on: 1. How many records you need cleaned 2. How soon did you need them done 3. How deep are your pockets. If you had several hundred, then the time factor alone might deter some otherwise willing helpers to decline due to their own time constraints. I cleaned several hundred of mine prior to offering them on SNA for sale and trust me, it took months so unless someone in Sydney is retired / not working and has plenty of spare time, you might be able to find some kind soul to help out. As to how much to offer to pay, that is a hard one due to each machine / operator requiring a different amount of time to clean each record. As a rough guide, I might spend say 5-10 minutes for each album so might achieve 6-10 per hour. Depending on what hourly rate you negotiate, you might be up for more than a few pesos. I certainly suggest a visit to BWS or Uncle Dans as a starter then go from there. It might be cheaper to order the KAB EV1 for US $139 plus bits then you'll have it for life. Good luck. Prog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honreekea Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, progladyte said: I guess that would depend on: 1. How many records you need cleaned 2. How soon did you need them done 3. How deep are your pockets. If you had several hundred, then the time factor alone might deter some otherwise willing helpers to decline due to their own time constraints. I cleaned several hundred of mine prior to offering them on SNA for sale and trust me, it took months so unless someone in Sydney is retired / not working and has plenty of spare time, you might be able to find some kind soul to help out. As to how much to offer to pay, that is a hard one due to each machine / operator requiring a different amount of time to clean each record. As a rough guide, I might spend say 5-10 minutes for each album so might achieve 6-10 per hour. Depending on what hourly rate you negotiate, you might be up for more than a few pesos. I certainly suggest a visit to BWS or Uncle Dans as a starter then go from there. It might be cheaper to order the KAB EV1 for US $139 plus bits then you'll have it for life. Good luck. Prog All good questions! I don`t have the room to house and use such a machine. I have the time though to operate the machine at some SNAER`S house being able to bring Uncle Dan and a fist full of dollars for the trouble.... How`s that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jakeyb77 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Honreekea said: All good questions! I don`t have the room to house and use such a machine. I have the time though to operate the machine at some SNAER`S house being able to bring Uncle Dan and a fist full of dollars for the trouble.... How`s that? It’s a job that is a PITA when doing for yourself. Doing it for someone else would be a flat no for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honreekea Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Yep, I'll do it lonesome self. Not a worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progladyte Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 17 hours ago, Honreekea said: All good questions! I don`t have the room to house and use such a machine. I have the time though to operate the machine at some SNAER`S house being able to bring Uncle Dan and a fist full of dollars for the trouble.... How`s that? There's a strange rumour going 'round that SNA is full of piss heads, miscreants and people who cannot say no to a good offer. I reckon this might help in your endeavour.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honreekea Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 hey...where did you find a pic of my warehouse??? that's incredible. and with me in the photo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John0001 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Any user thoughts on the Consonance RCM from Osborne? Thinking that one or maybe the Pro-Ject. Both are outside of budget but seems to be the only option(s) unless a 2nd hand one comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 8 hours ago, John0001 said: Any user thoughts on the Consonance RCM from Osborne? Yeah I've looked at that too. Haven't heard any reports yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiiiii Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 The Pro Ject will be in stock soon. Have already asked for a heads up from James at Tivoli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerly Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Using a Moth RCM for years, very noisy but cleans in both directions and always finished with another cycle using just distilled water. Drying - using a wooden plate rack, never damaged an LP yet. However if I could justify the price then an ultrasonic RCM does seem the way to go. The Degritter has some great reviews but look at the price. It's interesting that this Estonian company uses a much higher cycle - 120kHz. Has anyone bought and used one, a review would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kffern Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Is it worth going for the 10l version which i believe has 3 transducers? I have read quite a few reliability problems with these machines too. What are your experiences? kffern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EV Cali Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) @kffern In 4 years and after cleaning thousands of records the only problem I had with the 6lt tank was a wire to a transducer becoming unsoldered and this was easily fixed. Advantages of a 10lt bath are not such a tight fit for the records , tank is wider in both directions. more powerful heater an extra transducer, 6 lt has 3 transducers, 10 lt has 4 transducers Plus 10 lt tanks are presently about the same price as 6 lt. A few months ago, with an offer I got my 10lt bath for $144 including post. Not bad when the 6lt bath cost me $186 four years back. Present link $151,99 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-10L-Digital-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-Heater-Timer-Ultra-Sonic-Cleaning-Tank-AUS/353367708490 Link to my thread This is mine 10 LT tank version down side the kit that Owen sells will not fit on the 10 lt tank Edited April 3, 2021 by EV Cali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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