Jarrod Harrison Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Hi all. just wondering if anyone has tried one of these in their system? AU $80.36 | 2019 NEW model 2 road switch 3000W 15A AC power outlet Advanced filter Audio protect filter https://a.aliexpress.com/_Bf86454T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted June 3, 2020 Administrator Share Posted June 3, 2020 Aside from not being Australian Compliant and the potential insurance issues, and the terrible universal points which never seem to fit properly, it's essentially one of these with a voltage and current display - https://www.catch.com.au/product/thor-b8-8-way-smartfilter-8-surge-protection-power-board-3684446/?offer_id=20475898&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlN32BRCCARIsADZ-J4tUMqQHZdZv9I4inM9K76DUfxkQOohNOUsm--qX6PFVOrpfxjqKd7saAlq_EALw_wcB My advice is to avoid it. Stick with an approved Australian equivalent (as above) or step up to a quality Australian approved design if you want genuine conditioning (IsoTek, PS Audio etc). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I would take a wide berth from it. Whilst there are some good buys to be had on aliexpress, I've had people with issues from all sorts of devices not even doing what they're supposed to do, such as usb cables that don't even meet specification and causing regular data drop outs (despite being expensive and fancy looking), to linear power supplies that failed to deliver the current they were allegedly supposed to do. Worst case scenario, who knows just what this power conditioner actually does and if it's actually electrically dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Gale Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I've bought heaps of linear power supplies with no problems whatsoever the main thing to be aware is often they claim 240v when in fact it's 220v . I also have an old Consonance power board with 4 Aus outlets and four U.S. no problems again . I would ask heaps of questions regarding the voltage. I must admit nearly all my gear has U.S plugs so the universal adaptor would be a concern. Also the postage $80 Aus would turn me off a bit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Elliott Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 @JOH1975 Try a Bada LB-3300. I've been using 2 in different systems for quite a few years and they are fantastic for the money. Even work well with Big, Monster Power Amps. The PS Audio Dectet is pretty good, but getting up in $$$. The Dectet is a bit smoother, refined whereas the Bada is more dynamic, so I use the Dectet on Source's, Pre's & the Bada on Power Amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Elliott Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 If you're getting a Power Conditioner, good Quality Audiophile Power Cables are essential. The 2 work in synergy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod Harrison Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 Some great advise. I'd like to get the PS audio stuff but just a bit much for me. Maybe i should just save up and wait.. I think my system is deserving.... Sonus Faber Liuto Project RPM5 Carbon Quasimodo amp Pioneer stable platter CD Ipad (Deezer) with cambridge audio DAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Elliott Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 12 hours ago, JOH1975 said: Some great advise. I'd like to get the PS audio stuff but just a bit much for me. Maybe i should just save up and wait.. I think my system is deserving.... Sonus Faber Liuto Project RPM5 Carbon Quasimodo amp Pioneer stable platter CD Ipad (Deezer) with cambridge audio DAC The Bada I mentioned is affordable and as I mentioned pretty damn god for the $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I just stumbled across these on eBay. Would they also fall into the “avoid at all costs” category? The whole insurance thing does concern me if they aren’t AS compliant. Opinions please? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/254588490475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted June 9, 2020 Administrator Share Posted June 9, 2020 Personally speaking, anything at all with universal sockets I would avoid. Aside from not being legal for use in Australia (and insurance implications), in my experience those universal sockets don't make a good solid connection with AU plugs. It only takes a little arc to fry what's connected on the other end, trip circuit breakers, and blow fuses. I would rather run no power conditioning than introduce potential complications. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 no offence but anything that going to involve mains power, last thing i would want is something from aliexpress ! indeed i too would rather no power conditioning than run something like that and include in the power to my gear or have used in my home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 As everybody else has very correctly said, please just avoid this product. It would be the best purchase you never made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Can’t disagree@Marc. I contacted the seller and enquired about AS compliance. He told me it exceeded this, and only industrial equipment was supplied with certification of IP56. A couple of problems there. I’m a former sparky, and know that IP56 is a dust and water rating, not a general AS certification. Also, you might well exceed the specifications, but without that little sticker, it means zilch. I did thank him for his time.... Thanks but no thanks.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider27 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Instead of using power boards to have multiple points, how about hiring a local electrician and put more wall sockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 After a life changing event a number of years ago, I had to move into my parents place. My room was reconfigured, and while I was at it some mates still in the trade did some electrical work. I had 6 double GPO’s mounted together. A comment was made along the lines of, what have you got against power boards, haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted June 9, 2020 Administrator Share Posted June 9, 2020 56 minutes ago, Flash said: Also, you might well exceed the specifications, but without that little sticker, it means zilch. Nailed it. This is a problem with MANY of the appliances and accessories being sold in Australia in our industry at the moment. I won't name names for obvious reasons, but some distributors are satisfied with that information, and are selling here based on that. Other distributors, and for fairness I won't mention them either, go through a rigorous and expensive process to have each and every component or model actually certified. So next time you see someone complaining that some distributors mark up their products here more than the USD>AUD straight conversion, remember that this process forms part of the cost of doing business in Australia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Marc said: So next time you see someone complaining that some distributors mark up their products here more than the USD>AUD straight conversion, remember that this process forms part of the cost of doing business in Australia. Indeed. Many people do not realise the costs of being a distributor in Australia. Sure, some of them make a decent living, but there seems to be some sort of prevailing issue with some people who feel that they should run a charity business for audiophiles who only look at the US or UK price. As an old saying goes, the only way to make a small fortune being an audio distributor in Australia is to commence business with a large one. Edited June 9, 2020 by rantan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositivelyMusicallyGeared Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 04/06/2020 at 4:30 AM, JOH1975 said: Hi all. just wondering if anyone has tried one of these in their system? AU $80.36 | 2019 NEW model 2 road switch 3000W 15A AC power outlet Advanced filter Audio protect filter https://a.aliexpress.com/_Bf86454T Very nice. It sells at half this price domestically. Aliexpress doesn't ship this product to Australia, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Marc said: So next time you see someone complaining that some distributors mark up their products here more than the USD>AUD straight conversion, remember that this process forms part of the cost of doing business in Australia. Aah, Marc ... I suggest the people who complain have NFI about the cost of doing any bizniz. Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 05/06/2020 at 9:48 AM, JOH1975 said: Some great advise. I'd like to get the PS audio stuff but just a bit much for me. Maybe i should just save up and wait.. I think my system is deserving.... Sonus Faber Liuto Project RPM5 Carbon Quasimodo amp Pioneer stable platter CD Ipad (Deezer) with cambridge audio DAC Better option - audition a power conditioner in your system and if you're not prone to the power of suggestion you'll discover that it does nothing and then you won't even need one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Ittaku said: Better option - audition a power conditioner in your system and if you're not prone to the power of suggestion you'll discover that it does nothing and then you won't even need one! Unless you live in one of the 'unfortunate' areas of Melbourne where power is typically >250v, Con. Then, say, a Thor 10 can do good work. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pallydou Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Apart from the concerns raised by @Marc, I have great hesitation to source items from AliExpress. You know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petng Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 One extra point is that the polarity on US and Aussie plugs are reversed. So how can a Universal board cater for both? It can’t.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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