vae Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hi I am building new house theatre is 6m long and 4m wide. As per attached plan there will be front, Center, sub, 1 ceiling pair for atmos 1 side surrounds pair and 1 rear surround pairs for 7.1.2 . (all surrounds at 1.5m height). I am seeking option whether to turn rear surrounds into rear ceiling atmos to 5.1.4 as some people suggests is better setup than 7.1.2, and will be less clutter in the wall,. However I am not sure if that suits my room, Alternatively this can be mounted as rear presence speaker but at what height? If I am going 5.1.4 what should be the distance of side surround from rear wall/corner? Thank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopefullguy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 hmm you are sitting on the long wall so your seating will be close to the wall.. therefore forget 7.1.2, you need space behind you if using "rear" speakers. follow the 5.1.4 dolby guide imo https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/speaker-setup-guides/5.1.4-overhead-speaker-setup-guide.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Have a look at the Dolby Atmos guide https://www.dolby.com/us/en/speaker-setup-guides/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muriwai Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Any chance you can put seat on the other wall?rotate room 90 degrees? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muriwai Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 You say that the room is 6 long x 4 wide? but your floor plan shows seating and setup at 4 long x 6wide? i would run the room configuration with the 6m being the length (not the width)! if you ever upgrade to a projector the extra length will be handy 4 m is a good width (my room about 3.5 )and would love that extra .5 but still works a treat Others thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vae Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hi wife won't allow, as it is not ideal to rotate the seat as will block the window, and I can't move the window to other wall as it looks out to aircon unit and fence, not planning for multiple row, and limit the "multiple purpose" use of the room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGS Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Shame you can't rotate. My room is 5.2 by 8 with tv etc against 5.2 wall, no window. I went with 5.1.4 as rear wall is a long way back from seating. With couch nearly on wall having 4 atmos will be difficult, ideally they should be in front and behind you, yours would be licated clise to wall which would create unwanted reflections. Mine isn't much of a cinema as such, its also our lounge but it is work in progress, paint lighting to come and no WAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vae Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Any other thoughts? What if the rear speaker up high wall mount as presence speakers? But I suppose the atmos speakers will not match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, vae said: Any other thoughts? What if the rear speaker up high wall mount as presence speakers? But I suppose the atmos speakers will not match. nope won't work.... forget the rear speakers as been said.... with wall to back of wall there really isn't room for the rears to work better off with 5.1.2 or 5.1.4 at a stretch if can get some room between you and rear wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vae Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Okay I think best to go for 5.1.4, and get some room from wall to couch, in this case would it best to place the surround at corner pointing to listening position? The dolby guide is somewhat confusing with a 2 diagram showing slightly different surround position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muriwai Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, vae said: Hi wife won't allow, as it is not ideal to rotate the seat as will block the window, and I can't move the window to other wall as it looks out to aircon unit and fence, not planning for multiple row, and limit the "multiple purpose" use of the room... My wife left! now I have room running the right way cheers Muriwai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, vae said: Okay I think best to go for 5.1.4, and get some room from wall to couch, in this case would it best to place the surround at corner pointing to listening position? The dolby guide is somewhat confusing with a 2 diagram showing slightly different surround position in what way ? what 2 diagrams are you looking at ? can you post links/pics ? to those ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 A picture speaks a thousand words.. but if you are doing 4m by 6m, 5.1.4 will suit better. But why not wire up for 7.2.4? I use a 7.2.4 system in a 3.9m by 4m room... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vae Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hi, please see pictures in attachment. Picture 1 and Picture 2 is from current Dolby website. the top down view has rear surround in front of rear atmos while the side view has rear surround at the back. The picture 3 is from AVS forum and maybe different version of dolby guide having the surround in the corner and rear atmos much closer to the listening position. Considering my couch is closer to wall I am wondering if picture 3 setup is better (surround at corner and atmos closer to couch better) , or stick to the current guide in picture 1 where there is more separation in atmos front and rear speakers. ( I can put rear atmos 300mm from rear wall) would stay away from 7.1.4 if possible, as already suggested previous reply as it seems to not add much, adds clutter to wall and wife won't like it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I dont see as a contradiction.... id go with the dolby guide, not sure where AVS one has come from, ps the sides are not in the corner... they are also not at the rear. the angle is 110-120 in horizontal plane... so a very tight angle sides need to be in 5.1 setup for base surrounds. the vertical side section shows speakers in front and rear I think just for illustration... so know front or rear. it doesn't mean the side surrounds are in the rear. still have to apply the angles in horizontal plane. they are just to show the in ceiling speakers and angles in vertical plane for those .... main problem is your couch that sits so close to back wall and why i would suggest not going much more than 5.1.2 your side surroudns and overhears in side/rear are literally going to be on top of each other and pretty close to rear wall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muriwai Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 What Betty said follow the angles couch needs to come off the back wall or your sound will just be a muddle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 +1 on shifting the couch wiring up for 7 channels doesn’t mean you use them initially fixing them is costly when done in isolation so since you’re doing some work, my suggestion was do add the points first then decide later It’s a very decent space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vae Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Thanks all for feedback. This is my attempt to follow this version of Dolby guide for 5.1.4 (relocated speaker location in blue color). i remove the speaker from side wall as they do not fit into right angle at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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