Stump Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I have used the Furutech DeStat II static charge remover for years and all my cables are Furutech products. I find them middle of the road cables.I have often seen the Furutech DeMagα LP Demagnetizer in action at trade Shows but its not on the top of my want list just now.This review below talks of what goes into the Vinyl over the years to explain the benefits of the Demagg for LPs as well as Cd and cables.. https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/furutech-demagα-lp-demagnetizer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 How can vinyl, being non-metal and non-ferrous, be magnetised? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Eamon Do you have a disc flattener? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, aussievintage said: How can vinyl, being non-metal and non-ferrous, be magnetised? You didn't read the review ! did you? Quote Now, if your first thought here is, "What, a demagnetizer for LPs? Aren't they just plastic?" you would not be alone. At first blush, it may not appear to make any sense. How can a 33 1/3 long play record be magnetized, it's just vinyl after all, right! To get a better idea of how this could be we'll need to take a closer look at the formulation of the "vinyl" used to produce a twelve-inch long-play vinyl record? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, metal beat said: Eamon Do you have a disc flattener? I haven't but like the quality. I have a Vinyl Flat Record Flattener although I haven't bought any warped records for a few years..Also the Clearaudio outer ring does a good job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stump said: I haven't but like the quality. I have a Vinyl Flat Record Flattener although I haven't bought any warped records for a few years..Also the Clearaudio outer ring does a good job.. you are a lucky boy then. I have had my Orb DF-02 for 10 years now - the last 5 years especially its paid for itself over and over given the number of dished new records I have received. The disc demagniser is interesting, but too rich for me, unless I won the 20 mill last night. I would luv to try it out for a a few weeks thou to see how it performs over a lot of records. I wonder if it removes all static as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Definitely one for that audiophile who has everything.You can fix problems you never knew you had.I hear many positive results for its use with cables also. I use the Destat for static and works well. As for CDs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Stump said: You didn't read the review ! did you? Quote Now, if your first thought here is, "What, a demagnetizer for LPs? Aren't they just plastic?" you would not be alone. At first blush, it may not appear to make any sense. How can a 33 1/3 long play record be magnetized, it's just vinyl after all, right! To get a better idea of how this could be we'll need to take a closer look at the formulation of the "vinyl" used to produce a twelve-inch long-play vinyl record? I'll wait to see how many believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, aussievintage said: I'll wait to see how many believe it. See what isolation does, just wait till we get to the other side of C19 and reality will settle in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Rutter Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Most "Snake Oil" comes in bottles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty48 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Colin Rutter said: Most "Snake Oil" comes in bottles. Interesting you should say that. Hiya Stump and Metal beat! I woke early this morning, so decided to listen to a podcast, Darko’s to be precise. In this particular one, John Darko and Jeff Dorgay discuss the concept of snake oil. I think you’d all find it interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, rusty48 said: Interesting you should say that. Hiya Stump and Metal beat! I woke early this morning, so decided to listen to a podcast, Darko’s to be precise. In this particular one, John Darko and Jeff Dorgay discuss the concept of snake oil. I think you’d all find it interesting. personally, I will only spend 1 hour 20 mins with Darko at a pub drinking Guinness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, metal beat said: personally, I will only spend 1 hour 20 mins with Darko at a pub drinking Guinness When he starts talking about a green pen...... get another SNA member to make your phone ring and say it’s in an emergency...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What Me? Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I use my Furutech demag for CD's and DVD's and swear by it. Shouldn't matter but it definitely does something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_mike Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Cartridge demagnetisers are another one, how do you demagnetise a non ferrous wire coil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Effectiveness aside, how can a simple demagnetiser cost so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, t_mike said: Cartridge demagnetisers are another one, how do you demagnetise a non ferrous wire coil? Bcoz you don't demagnetise the coil ... you demagnetise the former that the copper/silver/gold coil is wound around. This former is typically made of iron - except in the case of the Benz Ruby (and maybe other carts) which is not made of iron ... but ruby, in the case of the Benz Ruby. Andy Edited May 11, 2020 by andyr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_m_54 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 If the plastic compound contains only 0.25% to 0.5% carbon black, and carbon black could possibly contain a "minute amount of ferrous material native to that colorant additive", what is the percentage of ferrous material in the mix, overall? Even if the "minute amount" was 1% (of the carbon black), that means the total amount of ferrous material would still only be 0.0025% to 0.005% of the total mix. Yea nah... I don't buy it.. But I do have a degaussing wand that I built years ago, which has no other practical use for me these days, that I could try and see if it makes a difference to my ears... No wait, my system is nowhere near revealing enough for it to make any difference to me. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, bob_m_54 said: If the plastic compound contains only 0.25% to 0.5% carbon black, and carbon black could possibly contain a "minute amount of ferrous material native to that colorant additive", what is the percentage of ferrous material in the mix, overall? Even if the "minute amount" was 1% (of the carbon black), that means the total amount of ferrous material would still only be 0.0025% to 0.005% of the total mix. Yea nah... I don't buy it.. Don't forget, this device then only removes about a tenth of the magnetic field "the magnetic field of the LP was lowered from 620~630 nT to 572~582 nT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_m_54 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, aussievintage said: Don't forget, this device then only removes about a tenth of the magnetic field "the magnetic field of the LP was lowered from 620~630 nT to 572~582 nT" probably closer to 3/5 of 5/8 of FA.... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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