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1 hour ago, :) Go Away 🙂 said:

I was one of those who bought focal elegia from ATA sale and really liked them.

As was I! Thoroughly enjoying them, use them every chance I get.

 

I think a lot of the recent used sales online are probably people with buyer's remorse, realising they don't need a sixth pair of cans, or should never have spent $600 on headphones when they are on JobKeeper payment, or should never have spent $600 when they could have just kicked in another $600 and bought the pair they have been actually lusting after for years.

 

I don't take those flip sales as a down-vote for Focal Elear. Quite the opposite. The brand is popular! I expect they have sold hundreds of pairs from this single outlet during this sale alone. Probably sucking sales from their competitors sheet and thinning those bottom lines.

 

Personally, if it came to pass that the global Focal sales were part of a capital-raising/stock-clearing venture to fund r&d for a fresh line-up of cans, I will welcome that with open arms.

 

 

 

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gosh how many headphones have i owned ...because bought at the time as good opportunity and then given number of phones found just not using them. These are quite expensive things. and hard to justify holding if not really using .... yep the 6th pair does play as a factor in my opinion. 

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I'm sticking to 3 max - well 4 if you include my HD6XX which I won't sell. They're perfect for just watching Youtube and not adding any unnecessary wear to my Utopia or Stellia. For me, I need a closed back such as the Stellia for work, and ideally I then have 2 options for home - something analytical, clean, such as the Focal Utopia. Then i'd like the opposite - darker, bassy, smooth, such as the Empyrean.

 

Ambitious and quite expensive I know, though having tested just about everything TOTL out there, this is the trio that makes the most sense to me.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, elisix_ said:

Then i'd like the opposite - darker, bassy, smooth, such as the Empyrean.

Tried any of the HiFiMAN HPs? HEKSE or the Susvara?

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I'm not spending that kind of money on Hifiman.

 

Arya maybe, but not more than 2k per. 

 

I've got no doubt they're amazing, but no thanks.

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7 minutes ago, elisix_ said:

I'm not spending that kind of money on Hifiman.

 

Arya maybe, but not more than 2k per. 

 

I've got no doubt they're amazing, but no thanks.

I really get a sense of quality and satisfaction from euro design and manufacture lately.. Chinese stuff is piled 10 high at the tip.

I feel like I am a better steward of mother earth when I buy something that might actually last for 30 years.

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I don't have an issue specifically with Chi-fi - there's a lot of bang for buck. Audio GD is all quality and class. However Hifiman build quality and materials are average at best and lazy at worst. Arya does sound nice though but i'd rather the Focal clear anyday.

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The susvaras sound great but for that price you would them to be built much better. I'd only consider them at a massive discount, their retail price is ridiculous. 

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10 hours ago, elisix_ said:

I don't have an issue specifically with Chi-fi - there's a lot of bang for buck. Audio GD is all quality and class. However Hifiman build quality and materials are average at best and lazy at worst. Arya does sound nice though but i'd rather the Focal clear anyday.

I believe the Hifiman problem to be symptomatic of the chi-fi industry as a whole. Not enough discipline for real R&D.. not enough accountability for QC.. too many middle men/oversight lacking..

 

The sound and comfort is what matters at the end of the day, and as with chi-fi in general there is pretty good value there. A bit garish, and as I said before, the lifespan of an undercooked product just isn't something I can safely rely on.. but yeah I would prefer the Arya over a good portion of the market's offerings, but like you I find Focal to really be nailing it. Like ALO does with IEMs.. they have greatly improved the industry by participating.

 

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Another happy buyer of the Elegias during the A2A sale period. Running them through an Audio GD DAC/Amp combo and very happy with the sound. Was very tempted to buy the Clears since I don't own any open HPs and was keen to try one out - but 'sanity' prevailed in the end! Thank God the sale is now over - so no more temptation...

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19 minutes ago, BadSneakers83 said:

Mate, try this EQ on Elegia. For me they turn them into the headphone that they are meant to be. 

Focal Elegia.pdf 299.46 kB · 1 download

Its so awesome people like this put so much effort in. More people need to be aware of this guy.

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50 minutes ago, BadSneakers83 said:

Mate, try this EQ on Elegia. For me they turn them into the headphone that they are meant to be. 

Focal Elegia.pdf 299.46 kB · 4 downloads

I was running his RME ADI-2 specific EQ settings for the Elegia and they brought the Elegia to life!

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How do I add that EQ to the Elegias with something like the RME ADI-2

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I did it with the RME which allows for that level of control, though there are software solutions also.

 

I am not familiar with them though. I'm sure others will have that detail for you.

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1 minute ago, :) Go Away (: said:

How does one apply an EQ to Elegia?

Good question. Even I was wondering how to apply the EQ after downloading the pdf

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Just now, zxSwifty said:

How do I add that EQ to the Elegias with something like the RME ADI-2

Easy with RME.

 

Go to his master list but download the RME specific version. 


Then just use the built in 5 band + high/low shelf. 

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I did it through Roon. It absolutely did bring the Elegia to life! Scrubbed the mid heavy haze and added much needed air and space up top. I can't recommend those EQ settings highly enough. I also love what that guy did with EQ for the Focal Clear. It's not as pronounced, but it's still an improvement. Like someone wiping away a fine film of haze and fog. 

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I'll agree with your friend. 

 

I don't think Oratory is a god with golden ears. You have to try it and see if it suits you.

 

In Oratory's defence however, he often includes notes to adjust a, b, c to your liking. 

 

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I agree, everyone's ears are different anyway. But I love Oratory's scientific approach, and the measurements he posts are pretty cut and dry. 

 

I heard the Utopia with and without the EQ; and for me it just took away from what makes the Utopia so special, that utterly INSANE level or resolution. 

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Utopia is quite polarising. I hated it the first few times I listened to it. I was coming from the position of someone who has worn bassy gaming headsets for years and it took time to appreciate the differences. 

 

 

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