NIN Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Hi guys, For Dynaudio X44,do you have any good amplifier to recommand? Currently I have a Yamaha R-XV 685, connect to a Emotiva XPA2 GEN3 to speakers. I feel the treble part is bit harsh, as EMOTIVA is a AV taste Amp, it is great for movies and I really enjoy it when I watch movies. But when I listen to music, I prefer JAZZ, Vocalists, Classic music, the female singing, Violin, sounds bit sharp. Is that because of the Emotiva amp? Thank you for your advice in advance. Edited April 25, 2020 by thundom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jventer Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Hi @thundom Welcome to "the journey" . Dynaudio make very good speakers. I think you have an issue with matching. Or what we call synergy. Unfortunately individual good items do not always work well. Your speakers, for example have an impedance of 4 ohm - not a big issue - but it may make it harder for amps to drive. You are on the right track - you do need an amp that can drive them well. The amp should also suit your taste in music. For better advice I will leave for other members here to advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irek Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Hi, One of the way to improve something is to replace emotiva with stereo integrated amp. That amp should have HT/AV bypass. Which one? That is a good question, only auditioning can give you some answer. I would prefer Rega, Naim, Exposure, Primare Devialet for classical music and for vocal, jazz Arcam, Moon, Marantz, Musical Fidelity, Primaluna, Hegel. The list go on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Jventer said: Hi @thundom Welcome to "the journey" . Dynaudio make very good speakers. I think you have an issue with matching. Or what we call synergy. Unfortunately individual good items do not always work well. Your speakers, for example have an impedance of 4 ohm - not a big issue - but it may make it harder for amps to drive. You are on the right track - you do need an amp that can drive them well. The amp should also suit your taste in music. For better advice I will leave for other members here to advise. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Irek said: Hi, One of the way to improve something is to replace emotiva with stereo integrated amp. That amp should have HT/AV bypass. Which one? That is a good question, only auditioning can give you some answer. I would prefer Rega, Naim, Exposure, Primare Devialet for classical music and for vocal, jazz Arcam, Moon, Marantz, Musical Fidelity, Primaluna, Hegel. The list go on and on. What i am interested is, different taste of amps all up to how they design the circuit in their amps and influencing the different frequency of sound, if they put a equalizer in amps, you can then adjust the taste easily. Maybe that is secret of device manufacturer to earn money. I read a comment on a forum inspired me a lot, what is hi-fi, who can tell what the original sound is? If you go to the studio or listen to the raw DSD, maybe the sound is not that pleasable. But if you like everyone trace the aim of "hi-fi" , what is the point of not using a equaliser? That is the same of using different amps , change the sound of the original recording. The host of YouTube channel , Thomas & stereo, said there is not perfect speakers, he listened to speakers more than $100000 USD , still there are sth not ideal, bass, treble or mid range, he said maybe if the price go up to $300000, there might be "perfect" speakers. My thought was is that true? Once the speaker is up to a level of accuracy of sound , it is all due to the processing or adjustment of sound signal. Which means you can use sth like ai, to accurately achieve "perfect" sound on your taste from signal level to double or triple the effect you get from your devices, rather than spending tons of money upgrading endless amps. Just my 2 cents Edited April 25, 2020 by thundom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 I think it is a too niche market for tech company to pay attention to it. they focus more on surrounding Technology. I really think the adjustment of sound signal is the way to make any amplifier "better" that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) But that would not fit the taste of HiFi ideology for audiophiles, isn't it. Even we buy amps , listen to different copies of recordings not because they are real, accurate, but because they are edited to our taste Edited April 25, 2020 by thundom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Btw, for Yamaha receivers , there is a pure direct mode, equal to bypass function to pre amps Pure Direct mode is a feature offered by many Yamaha receivers. When engaged, it feeds sound directly to the amplifier and bypasses any DSP processing that might otherwise color the signal, ensuring the best possible high-fidelity sound from all audio sources – even USB and HDMI inputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irek Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, thundom said: Pure Direct mode is a feature offered by many Yamaha receivers. When engaged, it feeds sound directly to the amplifier and bypasses any DSP processing that might otherwise color the signal, ensuring the best possible high-fidelity sound from all audio sources – even USB and HDMI inputs. "the best possible high-fidelity sound" - it only refers to that particular AV receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jventer Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, thundom said: Btw, for Yamaha receivers , there is a pure direct mode, equal to bypass function to pre amps Pure Direct mode is a feature offered by many Yamaha receivers. When engaged, it feeds sound directly to the amplifier and bypasses any DSP processing that might otherwise color the signal, ensuring the best possible high-fidelity sound from all audio sources – even USB and HDMI inputs. Yes, I have an AVR that was almost top of the range - OK for HT - cannot stand it for Stereo., as in I refuse to listen to music on it at all - it hurts my ears. An AVR is just that - a multifuntion "swiss knife". For good stereo sound you have to go way way up in the AVR world or get a proper stereo amp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jventer said: Yes, I have an AVR that was almost top of the range - OK for HT - cannot stand it for Stereo., as in I refuse to listen to music on it at all - it hurts my ears. An AVR is just that - a multifuntion "swiss knife". For good stereo sound you have to go way way up in the AVR world or get a proper stereo amp. haha, you guys are funny, I totally agree, but you can't deny that it is really handy , just press few buttons on remote or even with your mobile phone app, you can switch between everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, Irek said: "the best possible high-fidelity sound" - it only refers to that particular AV receiver. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irek Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Equalisation has been removed on purpose, I guess it helps manufacturers sell more amps. Saying that there is plenty of new technology in hifi, have you heard of Devialet, minidsp room correction, new NAD streamer with room correction or new Anthem integrated? Edited April 25, 2020 by Irek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Irek said: Equalisation has been removed on purpose, I guess it helps manufacturers sell more amps. Saying that there is plenty of new technology in hifi, have you heard of Devialet, minidsp room correction, new NAD streamer with room correction or new Anthem integrated? Nop, I will search for it , thank you sir. I agree it can help them sell more amp. As you can only buy new amp to change the taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jventer said: Yes, I have an AVR that was almost top of the range - OK for HT - cannot stand it for Stereo., as in I refuse to listen to music on it at all - it hurts my ears. An AVR is just that - a multifuntion "swiss knife". For good stereo sound you have to go way way up in the AVR world or get a proper stereo amp. Any recommendations for amp sir ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irek Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 There are few other tricks as well, as example: SCHIIT LOKI MINI EQUIALIZER or IFI MICRO ITUBE2 TUBE BUFFER & PRE-AMPLIFIER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Irek said: There are few other tricks as well, as example: SCHIIT LOKI MINI EQUIALIZER or IFI MICRO ITUBE2 TUBE BUFFER & PRE-AMPLIFIER. I just checked the schiit Loki , pretty cool. That is a good thing to use while saving money for the next ideal amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Irek said: There are few other tricks as well, as example: SCHIIT LOKI MINI EQUIALIZER or IFI MICRO ITUBE2 TUBE BUFFER & PRE-AMPLIFIER. Ho wood is musical Fidelity m5si Is m6si better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, thundom said: Ho wood is musical Fidelity m5si Is m6si better? Slightly, but not $1200 better. The M5si is really the optimum point in the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, rantan said: Slightly, but not $1200 better. The M5si is really the optimum point in the range. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, rantan said: Slightly, but not $1200 better. The M5si is really the optimum point in the range. I found a very interesting product Cambridge CXA801, any one discussed about it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, thundom said: I found a very interesting product Cambridge CXA801, any one discussed about it ? The CXA 81 is a very decent amp, but not as good the MF, although it is about $1K lower in cost and has a built in DAC if that appeals to you. It would certainly power your Dyns very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, rantan said: It would certainly power your Dyns very well. By this you mean CXA81 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, thundom said: By this you mean CXA81 ? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIN Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, rantan said: Yes. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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