aussievintage Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, lemarquis said: One thing I noticed is that previously Hi Fi showed as 96kHz on my dac, but now everything seems to default at 384kHz (which is presumably what MQA Masters resolves to). This rate is displayed whether I am playing a regular hi fi track or the ones labelled as Masters. Every track labelled "Master" that I play shows on the player, AND on the DAC, as 44.1kHz. I guess that's the default on upnp. Even with MQA working, it sounds a bit like your player is upsampling? Edited December 3, 2020 by aussievintage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, aussievintage said: Every track labelled "Master" that I play shows on the player, AND on the DAC, as 44.1kHz. I guess that's the default on upnp. To correct this a bit. I just finally found some better masters. A Rush track I just played was 48kHz flac and 48kHz master, and it played at 48kHz on my system via upnp. A Norah Jones track is 48kHz flac, and 96kHz master, and it plays at 48kHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esoterica Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 iirc the biggest increase in fidelity is when you go from 16 to 24 bit. The kHz doesn't affect it as much. My current main amp doesn't tell me that info, but it does on my AVR's Tidal app and on another amp I have so I'll check it out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Esoterica said: iirc the biggest increase in fidelity is when you go from 16 to 24 bit. The kHz doesn't affect it as much. My current main amp doesn't tell me that info, but it does on my AVR's Tidal app and on another amp I have so I'll check it out again. According to the the player ( mconnect) , and the renderer (moOde), the flac file is 24 bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarquis Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 @aussievintage @Esoterica I'm playing the desktop Tidal app from the PC to the Klein Gross dac. The Klein doesn't upsample, it displays the output from the source (in this case the Tidal desktop app). Maybe the app is doing the upsampling. I have set the output to Masters on the app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, lemarquis said: Maybe the app is doing the upsampling or the operating system or drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarquis Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 40 minutes ago, aussievintage said: or the operating system or drivers. Bingo. The Gross dac drivers present several options. On JRiver I select Combo 384 Asio Drivers. On Tidal the only option I see is Digital Output Armanero driver. If I open this up in system sound advanced tab I have it set to 384. Changing that to 192 etc will do the same. Everything defaults to the max setting. So I just re checked Tidal settings and I think exclusive control was off. Switched back on and now dac displays Masters as 88.2khz and if I change to hi fi (CD quality) it displays 44khz. Just needed to sort that other driver. Mystery solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffK Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Thanks for this heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 After an initial flurry of use, after taking up this offer, I just realised I am mainly playing vinyl lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 21 hours ago, aussievintage said: After an initial flurry of use, after taking up this offer, I just realised I am mainly playing vinyl lately Funny. I tend to do that too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander H. Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 7:48 AM, Esoterica said: Try this link... I tried to shorten it, but was unsuccessful. It seems to work at least. https://ablink.email.tidal.com/ls/click?upn=Wu9z1zaQ1PU5O1C-2BMfQu36cPL4IGaSWDcxuaWAZfzjeLFQYtdRfJqmTWrG7Cop56ztzT82R5kL20dKQJ-2BSz2SJTx-2Ba4hNVj5Z6WixGk1zwM-3D0DUB_UwZJVysHZFEpVuf0gJbh5wCIXSA5AQ7lGvEhdNYdMldROne3xqtCSxdzxWRLaxy3LxH8cAIn9KJHWMFar3Ol-2F6JYB8idol8aCyBifAL-2BVcZSzztqiiRpf87Y0mntdhw6fmWlGgH0H9TnjnEEJnaOjqgsamOByTaNLLMQXS8GuUsvZnOy4CruUFkQ-2BRJAq95tsg1gbzPgvPsJRBh1sFypT5-2F9yPX5F2-2FDzRSIfSxB54vi8lJPL9rQe4Rg0W3L1vTCI-2Fd29HpCY0pGWDXhrAMWqKFxqbur31RhXh2ItVErWMYIvp376rJTAkdu-2FCWSOlYfOTq9hHR50qXZQ-2FLP6aUUrhY6cp0LwcA8bYrPbtbdA2NQHhcURDiwALd0cmn2Lbx8Ozl4s-2FhHuP5msK9ycF8jfXCiys2VRdOZJL1xg-2B-2FhxzGBOX7FJj0nsW-2F7SpR5npc8zzo7bRZcHQ-2BApmk4anU2mFUPEqGbUxJXkDv6Z6m0z7FXmCaFMLBz8LaXYxfB3rtLZZ8j8vI-2FPPf9KYioezb0O5OK4U4XQrsUNV7KrHnXwH-2FsGE0K49tp6FdpwJURwdgCTUrekjFiAP3U-2Bp1gNB3Uk1CpHJH0cP8Rb8Fjati7yE4-2FbYaYfTGApB4wV-2F821vRPt-2BSE-2FVfhhNCIi73zSZd1eQ-3D-3D Tried this, but it comes up with "You are not eligible for this offer". Maybe I'm too late? Was it a Black Friday offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarquis Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Sander H. said: Tried this, but it comes up with "You are not eligible for this offer". Maybe I'm too late? Was it a Black Friday offer? Ostensibly, it is only available for dormant accounts. If you have an existing lapsed account it may eventually work after a few tries. Try this link for a new account - same price https://tidal.com/offers/blackfriday Edited December 8, 2020 by lemarquis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esoterica Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 4:51 PM, crtexcnndrm99 said: The challenge will be not buying a dac in the next 120 days... !! I'm heading towards losing that challenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander H. Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, lemarquis said: Ostensibly, it is only available for dormant accounts. If you have an existing lapsed account it may eventually work after a few tries. Try this link for a new account - same price https://tidal.com/offers/blackfriday It looks that this did the trick. Many thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misternavi Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 tried Tidal through Audirvana compared to the desktop app. Upsampling through audirvana changes the flavour a bit but not for the better and the user interface is total crap. Desktop app is so much better. Tidal user interface is also better than amazon music. I'm hoping a new special comes after this one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBoer3301 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Is that offer still available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarquis Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, JohnnyBoer3301 said: Is that offer still available? Click it and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachie7 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 02/12/2020 at 10:45 PM, aussievintage said: Wow, never even considered using it that way. Always in my home running off WiFi from NBN. No wonder you are getting drop-outs. I can't even get DAB+ to work without dropouts in a car. Ha ha, yeah in the car is great when it works but also at home had drop outs too. It does seem to be better at the moment now though. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander H. Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I'm chuffed with this Tidal thing. Especially at $1.99 for 4 months. I'll just have to wait and see if I think it's worth $23.99/mo but so far I'm loving it. On the down side: being able to listen to lossless tracks all the time has ruined my mp3 collection for good. Then again, maybe that's a good thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike13 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Pretty good for anyone wanting to try it out. https://offer.tidal.com/campaigns/5fcab4352ffd9a00119dc5e1/products?geo=AU&campaignId=5fcab4352ffd9a00119dc5e1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esoterica Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 For those that missed out on this offer, there is a new one for a bit more. $4 for 4 months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakkar Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilY Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) On 17/12/2020 at 10:05 PM, Mike13 said: Pretty good for anyone wanting to try it out. https://offer.tidal.com/campaigns/5fcab4352ffd9a00119dc5e1/products?geo=AU&campaignId=5fcab4352ffd9a00119dc5e1 Thanks for the link. Works Edited December 23, 2020 by PhilY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 22/12/2020 at 1:26 PM, Esoterica said: For those that missed out on this offer, there is a new one for a bit more. $4 for 4 months. Yep. I just picked that one up. I have a few frustrations with it, which I’ve voiced in the Connect thread. Audio quality is tops though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 How are your trials going? It find it is unreliable. At busy times especially, it drops out half way through an album or list, way too often for a premium service like this. I know it is not my internet connection as I have zero problems with much more demanding video streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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