bizzibee Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jayson H said: Cheers Bizzibee..... is there a list somewhere of Yamaha A vs V model numbers that are identical internally? OK I will give this a go. Please note that Yamaha US does not offer the V Series equivalents of the top three corresponding Aventage models. I don't know the reason for this. Also it is important to note that it is only the top three Aventage models (RX-A30xx, RX-A20xx & RX-A10xx), that have corresponding models (RX-V30xx, RX-V20xx & RX-V10xx) in the V Series with same internals. So the Aventage RX-A8xx & RX-A7xx don't have any corresponding models in the V Series with same internals. Anyway, It is fairly straight forward. If you browse to: https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/index.html You will see the AVENTAGE Series, the '85 Series and the '83 Series. I've added the link below for the '81 Series as Yamaha has removed it. If you click on the Aventage Series link: https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/aventage/index.html You will see the AVENTAGE Series 9, Series 8, & Series 7. OK here we go! 2018 AVENTAGE Series 9 = '85 Series RX-A3080 = RX-V3085 (Note: the RX-V3085 is not shown on the Australian Yamaha site. I don't know the reason) RX-A2080 = RX-V2085 RX-A1080 = RX-V1085 Note: 2018 Yamaha CX-A5200 AVENTAGE 11.2-Ch AV Preamplifier is based on AVENTAGE RX-A3080 Ref: https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/aventage/index.html https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/85/index.html You can use this comparison tool to confirm: https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a3080/australia/yamaha-rx-v3085/australia/ https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a2080/australia/yamaha-rx-v2085/australia/ https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a1080/australia/yamaha-rx-v1085/australia/ 2017 AVENTAGE Series 8 = '83 Series RX-A3070 = RX-V3083 RX-A2070 = RX-V2083 RX-A1070 = RX-V1083 Ref: https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/aventage/index.html https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/83/index.html 2016 AVENTAGE Series 7 = '81 Series RX-A3060 = RX-V3081 RX-A2060 = RX-V2081 RX-A1060 = RX-V1081 Ref: https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/aventage/index.html https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/81/index.html So the AVENTAGE RX-A1060 = RX-V1081 (which Hytram has for sale) Note: 2015 Yamaha CX-A5100 AVENTAGE 11.2-Ch AV Preamplifier is based on AVENTAGE RX-A3050 2013 Yamaha CX-A5000 AVENTAGE 11.2-Ch AV Preamplifier is based on AVENTAGE RX-A3030 I'm not going to go back any further than this, except to say that still further back in the AVENTAGE & V Series, the 2011 AVENTAGE RX-A3010 = RX-V3071 Video Series, which is the unit on eBay that I originally linked to here: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-AV-Receiver-RX-V3071-top-of-the-range-when-purchased/174183951249 Anyway I think you get the idea. P.S. Estimated delivery cost for the RX-V3071 to Australind's 6233 postcode in WA is $115.25 Edited February 15, 2020 by bizzibee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson H Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Cheers Bizzibee, I am getting the idea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Jayson H said: Cheers Bizzibee, I am getting the idea..... OK good to know. Another thing to consider, is increasing your budget if possible and perhaps pickup a Refurb Yamaha RX-V1085 from say Excel HiFi (av-comp on eBay) for $999 (using eBay discount code PICK100) with free shipping. See: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/YAMAHA-RX-V1085-AV-Receiver-Aus-Warranty/124063176407 You could also pickup a Refurb Yamaha RX-V2085 from Excel HiFi (av-comp) for $1449 (using eBay discount code PICK100) with free shipping. See: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/YAMAHA-RX-V2085-AV-Receiver-Aus-Warranty/124066647443 On there Web site, they have the Refurb Yamaha Aventage RX-A2080 for $1599, again with with free shipping. See: https://www.excelhifi.com.au/yamaha-rx-a2070-refurbished.html Some important information: Warranty https://www.excelhifi.com.au/warranty.html What is Refurbished? https://www.excelhifi.com.au/what-is-refurbished-en.html Shipping/Freight https://www.excelhifi.com.au/shipping-freight.html I personally purchased a Refurb Yamaha RX-A3080 from Excel HiFi last year in March, and have been very happy with it. https://www.excelhifi.com.au/yamaha-rx-a3080-refurbished.html You wouldn't have know it was a Refurb except there were no batteries for the remote. The box, packing and unit itself were pristine condition. Edited February 14, 2020 by bizzibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Jayson H said: Cheers Bizzibee, I am getting the idea..... I've added some additional info in the first few lines of my post above just to clarify a few things. Edited February 14, 2020 by bizzibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 13/02/2020 at 1:08 AM, Jayson H said: I am also keen on a Yamaha, I have seen a RX-V3900, and various RX-V units in that price range. I meant to ask if this if the Yamaha RX-V3900 you were referring to. It is located in Perth and priced at $500. See: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/northbridge/radios-receivers/yamaha-rx-v3900-power-av-receiver-in-mint-condition-/1240229040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson H Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, bizzibee said: I meant to ask if this if the Yamaha RX-V3900 you were referring to. It is located in Perth and priced at $500. See: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/northbridge/radios-receivers/yamaha-rx-v3900-power-av-receiver-in-mint-condition-/1240229040 Yep, that was one I was looking at.... there is also a Cambridge Azur 751 that looks very tempting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Jayson H said: Yep, that was one I was looking at.... there is also a Cambridge Azur 751 that looks very tempting...... Well that Yamaha RX-V3900 is now sold. https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/northbridge/radios-receivers/yamaha-rx-v3900-power-av-receiver-in-mint-condition-/1240229040 So did you buy it? This would be the Cambridge audio azur 751r v2 you are referring to: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/gabbadah/home-theatre-systems/cambridge-audio-azur-751r-v2/1237808321 Anyway sometimes it's the quick or the dead. Edited February 15, 2020 by bizzibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson H Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, bizzibee said: So did you buy it? Nope. 9 minutes ago, bizzibee said: This would be the Cambridge audio azur 751r v2 you are referring to: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/gabbadah/home-theatre-systems/cambridge-audio-azur-751r-v2/1237808321 Yep. got any thoughts? 9 minutes ago, bizzibee said: Anyway sometimes it's the quick or the dead. Yeh... I have time and more research to do! Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 49 minutes ago, Jayson H said: Yep, that was one I was looking at.... there is also a Cambridge Azur 751 that looks very tempting...... Avoid the 751r, sounds great but reliability is the issue, I had two and they were both crap, one was from the distributor too, issues that can never be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson H Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: Avoid the 751r, sounds great but reliability is the issue, I had two and they were both crap, one was from the distributor too, issues that can never be resolved. Cheers!!! dodged that bullet..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I’d recommend the CXR200 highly though, they are going cheap and even cheaper second hand, complete new build with built in streammagic module and plenty of grunt! mine hasn’t skipped a beat since new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Jayson H said: Yep. got any thoughts? No! 4 hours ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: Avoid the 751r, sounds great but reliability is the issue, I had two and they were both crap, one was from the distributor too, issues that can never be resolved. Glad that Hi-Fi Whipped had some good info for you. Always good to get personal firsthand experience. 3 hours ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: ’d recommend the CXR200 highly though, they are going cheap and even cheaper second hand, complete new build with built in streammagic module and plenty of grunt! mine hasn’t skipped a beat since new. Saw this Demo on eBay, $2,499.00. See: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cambridge-Audio-CXR200-AV-Receiver-RRP-3-499-/223745764824?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 But looks like one sold for $1200 or $1274. Not sure which one. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cambridge-AV-Receiver-CXR200-/163904928692 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cambridge-AV-Receiver-CXR200-/163970349835 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hytram Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) My RX-V1081 is starting to look cheap Edited February 15, 2020 by Hytram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Hytram said: My RX-V1081 is starting to look cheap Always was looking cheap, can’t go wrong IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 The CXR200 recommendation was wrong, now knowing the OP Is looking at a $500 budget I'd recommend to just get the latest model AVR you can find with the features you want. Yamaha, Denon, Marantz and Pioneer would be my pick, start there and you cannot go wrong. TBH they are all going to pretty much sound the same. If you get one with 7.1 preouts, in the future you can add a power amp for it to go next level if you ever wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: The CXR200 recommendation was wrong, now knowing the OP Is looking at a $500 budget I'd recommend to just get the latest model AVR you can find with the features you want. Yamaha, Denon, Marantz and Pioneer would be my pick, start there and you cannot go wrong. That is why I posted the links to those CXR200 units on eBay. It was to give OP some context around the pricing which is way about his budget. 12 hours ago, Hytram said: My RX-V1081 is starting to look cheap Absolutely! I did say that if courier costs from the east are an issue, OP could find something in WA like that Yamaha RX-V3800. See: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-RX-V3800-Receiver/184169787318 Another option is that Denon AVR-X3100W in Perth WA: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Denon-AVR-X3100W-7-2-Channel-Integrated-Network-Receiver/133329339847 The OP could get almost any AV Receiver sent to Perth cheaply using Sendle, and then get a local courier to ship from Perth to Australind. It is a valid option. That RX-V3900 mentioned in the OP's first post that was also in WA is sold now. Regardless it was superseded by the RX-A3000 when Yamaha released the Aventage line of Receivers. The RX-A3000 was superseded by the RX-A3010 which the RX-V3071 I mentioned before shares the same internals. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-AV-Receiver-RX-V3071-top-of-the-range-when-purchased/174183951249 So buying a recent RX-A30xx Series Receiver would be a good match for RX-V3900. Here is a comparison of the Yamaha Aventage RX-A3010 (RX-V3071) over Denon AVR-X3100W https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a3010/australia/denon-avr-x3100w/usa/ That Denon AVR-X3100W may well be a very good option for OP. Here is a comparison of the Yamaha RX-A1060 (RX-V1081) close match to Hytram's RX-V1081 over Denon AVR-X3100W https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a1060/australia/denon-avr-x3100w/usa/ Anyway as the OP has said, further research needed to determine exactly which way they will go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) I manually calculated sending the box dimensions and weight provided by Hytram's for his RX-V1081 using Aust Post which came to $118.50 using the following Size: 55.5 x 51.0 x 28.5cm Weight: 19kg from PORT MELBOURNE VIC 3207 to AUSTRALIND WA 6233 https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/calculate-postage-delivery-times/#/option/domestic/3207/6233 I manually calculated sending the box dimensions and weight of my RX-A3080 using Aust Post which came to $128.15 using the following Size: 56 x 54 x 29cm Weight: 21kg from BRISBANE QLD 4001 to AUSTRALIND WA 6233 https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/calculate-postage-delivery-times/#/option/domestic/4001/6233 That is inline with the $115.25 estimate given here when selecting postage cost: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-AV-Receiver-RX-V3071-top-of-the-range-when-purchased/174183951249?&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId So Aust Post is most likely the cheapest option for OP to use since AUSTRALIND WA 6233 is classified as a remote location. I have sent AV Receivers which I sold in the past using Aust Post (with insurance of course), and haven't had any issues. Anyway worth considering if OP can't find something locally. Edited February 16, 2020 by bizzibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hytram Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) great RX-V 1081 on Ebay! http://ebay.us/vhSWYn?cmpnId=5338273189 an amazing one on Gumtree https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/altona-meadows/home-theatre-systems/yamaha-rx-v1081-avr-like-new-in-box/1241582281?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=web_PostAdSuccess and another one on here all different prices to cover ebay fees and Gumtree lowballers $600 and it's yours! Edited February 17, 2020 by Hytram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 17/02/2020 at 5:41 PM, Hytram said: great RX-V 1081 on Ebay! http://ebay.us/vhSWYn?cmpnId=5338273189 an amazing one on Gumtree https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/altona-meadows/home-theatre-systems/yamaha-rx-v1081-avr-like-new-in-box/1241582281?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=web_PostAdSuccess and another one on here all different prices to cover ebay fees and Gumtree lowballers $600 and it's yours! I see you have sold you RX-V1081 Hytram. Congrats! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson H Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Classic example of what I am tossing up between: Near new Yamaha RX-V683 - $450 Or RX V3800 $550 Or RX A3020 $890 Anyone got any thoughts or experience on these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Jayson H said: Classic example of what I am tossing up between: Near new Yamaha RX-V683 - $450 Or RX V3800 $550 Or RX A3020 $890 Anyone got any thoughts or experience on these? If they have all your "must have" features, then pick the one with the highest total power consumption per channel. This is a better indicator of the actual power of the AVR than the marketing BS provided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Jayson H said: Classic example of what I am tossing up between: Near new Yamaha RX-V683 - $450 Or RX V3800 $550 Or RX A3020 $890 Anyone got any thoughts or experience on these? No brainer, 683 a base range AVR, 3800 was good but too old, get the 3020, later model plenty of features. If you think you need more power later add an external power amp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: No brainer, 683 a base range AVR, 3800 was good but too old, get the 3020, later model plenty of features. If you think you need more power later add an external power amp. My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzibee Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) On 23/02/2020 at 7:10 PM, Jayson H said: Classic example of what I am tossing up between: Near new Yamaha RX-V683 - $450 Or RX V3800 $550 Or RX A3020 $890 Anyone got any thoughts or experience on these? What about this Yamaha RX-A3020 on eBay for $700 that is in WA (perth), and they are accepting offers: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-RX-3020-AV-Receiver-Theatre-Sound-System/333527499608 I own a Yamaha RX-A3080, and I'm very happy with it. I think I would buy a Yamaha RX-3020 over the RX-V3800 and RX-V683 anytime if HDCP Version 2.3 isn't required. However, you try something like this TESmart splitter on Amazon to send an unobstructed 4k@60Hz HDR signal to you display while simultaneously sending with a 7.1 Dolby TrueHD/DTS-MA signal to the amp. https://www.amazon.com.au/TESmart-Splitter-Powered-Monitor-Duplicating/dp/B07WHPF4ZP This was discussed in this thread: Anyway, back to that RX-A3020. https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a3020/australia/yamaha-rx-a3080/australia/ https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a3020/australia/yamaha-rx-v683/australia/ https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-a3020/index.html Have a read of the manual: https://europe.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/3/328053/RX-A3020_A2020_om_En.pdf https://www.whathifi.com/yamaha/rx-a3020/review Edited February 27, 2020 by bizzibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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