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https://www.umart.com.au/HP-Probook-445-G6-14in-FHD-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700U-16GB-512GB-SSD-Laptop_52672G.html

 

Gents I am tossing up on maybe buying a new laptop and looking for suggestion re value for money.

 

Does the above fit into the category.    Anyone suggest any good 2nd hand Laptop websites worth viewing.    Is Grays Online worth a look?

 

My plan of sorts is to maybe get a laptop and make a dual boot with W10 and Linux Mint.    If and when I have got a handle on Linux Mint and like it, I will slowly make the full move on my home PC with a complete fresh install of Linux Mint.     Probably sounds abit convoluted but forget that and let me know what is value for money please 🙂

 

Regards Cazzesman

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That Ryzen CPU/GPU looks a decent performer, I used to like HP but have been out of touch in the computer scene and more so the laptop scene so not a lot of help, looks well spec'ed on the basics though.

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the one you picked seems good - but you would want to check the keyboard / trackpad / screen in person before buying.. this is where cheaper laptops usually suck :)

 

I have been burnt buying 2nd hand ex lease ones in the past..!  You never know how badly they may have been treated.. Stick to new :)

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32 minutes ago, gavtron said:

the one you picked seems good - but you would want to check the keyboard / trackpad / screen in person before buying.. this is where cheaper laptops usually suck :)

 

I have been burnt buying 2nd hand ex lease ones in the past..!  You never know how badly they may have been treated.. Stick to new :)

 

Yes, replacement keyboards are usually hard to come by for superceded models and the Chinese knock offs are absolute garbage!

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Laptops aren't designed for laps, they can overheat. Also the fashion is to make 'em thin, which apparently is cool or makes a businessman or woman look desirable on an aircraft or something. But glued plastic cases can and do bend, and the thinner the laptop the more likely that short-circuits happen. Laptops are designed as disposable tech and planned obsolescence.

 

OK, so I'm grumpy and probably unhelpful, as I've just dumped a Lenovo touchscreen laptop that couldn't run for more than 5 minutes without fritzing a short circuit. You know they have to run the wires from the screen to the hard drive through the hinge? A friend who used to run a PC business said Lenovo laptops usually died about 3 months after the guarantee ran out. Meh. So these days I travel with my work laptop and an old one with an actual CD player in it and built like a tank.  Although I'm now onto my second, I had to chuck an old HP Pavilion it kept overheating and cutting out. This pay cycle I'm reviving a Thinkpad tablet by buying a new battery because you can't let these things go with empty batteries for more than 2 days without recharging, or else the flat battery dies and needs replacing.

 

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3 hours ago, cazzesman said:

My plan of sorts is to maybe get a laptop and make a dual boot with W10 and Linux Mint.   

Taking this OT. Warning with dual boot - it can easily be messed up and you can spend lots of time fixing things. Make sure you have up to date backup of your data.

 

When you are starting out, suggest booting Mint from USB until you are comfortable. Use the USB to try out the various flavours of Mint, Linux etc.  Do dual boot only when you settle on something.

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2 hours ago, ThirdDrawerDown said:

Laptops aren't designed for laps, they can overheat. Also the fashion is to make 'em thin, which apparently is cool or makes a businessman or woman look desirable on an aircraft or something. But glued plastic cases can and do bend, and the thinner the laptop the more likely that short-circuits happen. Laptops are designed as disposable tech and planned obsolescence.

 

OK, so I'm grumpy and probably unhelpful, as I've just dumped a Lenovo touchscreen laptop that couldn't run for more than 5 minutes without fritzing a short circuit. You know they have to run the wires from the screen to the hard drive through the hinge? A friend who used to run a PC business said Lenovo laptops usually died about 3 months after the guarantee ran out. Meh. So these days I travel with my work laptop and an old one with an actual CD player in it and built like a tank.  Although I'm now onto my second, I had to chuck an old HP Pavilion it kept overheating and cutting out. This pay cycle I'm reviving a Thinkpad tablet by buying a new battery because you can't let these things go with empty batteries for more than 2 days without recharging, or else the flat battery dies and needs replacing.

 

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I’ve had a Lenovo X240 as a company issued laptop and it goes through hell and back, never had an issue, built like Shcitt but never let me down.

You are right about the heat, and how the thinner it gets, Apple is no exception, there top of the line 15” MacBook Pros run that hot that the fans scream and you can’t sit it on top of your lap.   My current company issued Dell  is the same......

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9 hours ago, Snoopy8 said:

Taking this OT. Warning with dual boot - it can easily be messed up and you can spend lots of time fixing things. Make sure you have up to date backup of your data.

 

When you are starting out, suggest booting Mint from USB until you are comfortable. Use the USB to try out the various flavours of Mint, Linux etc.  Do dual boot only when you settle on something.

 

Even better, make that "USB"  a small credit card sized SSD plugged into a USB 3 port.  Install Mint on that.  The speed will surprise you and they only cost less than $50 at officeworks.   Linux Mint will still install a dual boot menu, so you can leave the SSD plugged in and still fire up Windows occasionally without removing it.

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9 hours ago, Addicted to music said:

Apple is no exception, there top of the line 15” MacBook Pros run that hot that the fans scream and you can’t sit it on top of your lap.

I do not find that on my 2017 15". Over the years I've become incresingly frustrated by Windows OS and business software which forces me to use Windows. We now run virtual machines when we can but have found Windows 10 very bloated compared to 8 and 8 runs better for us as a virtual machine.

 

Most of our Mac machines last close to 10 years with minimal issues, so FAR better long term value for us despite the higher purchase price.

 

I am a quality first purchaser, I find in all industries buying budget products costs you more in the long run. Expensive does not necessarily mean good value though, so some research is required.

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11 hours ago, ThirdDrawerDown said:

You know they have to run the wires from the screen to the hard drive through the hinge?

 

Well. not to the hard drive.  The screen connects to the motherboard, and btw, laptops have always been made that way - of course the wires go through the hinge.

9 hours ago, Addicted to music said:

A friend who used to run a PC business said Lenovo laptops usually died about 3 months after the guarantee ran out.

None of mine ever have. 

 

9 hours ago, Addicted to music said:

This pay cycle I'm reviving a Thinkpad tablet by buying a new battery because you can't let these things go with empty batteries for more than 2 days without recharging, or else the flat battery dies and needs replacing.

Not too old I hope. Old electronics, especially stuff that gets hot, also degrades.  Lenovo have been making Thinkpads for a while, so I presume you mean an old Thinkpad with the IBM logo.

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10 hours ago, Snoopy8 said:

Taking this OT. Warning with dual boot - it can easily be messed up and you can spend lots of time fixing things. Make sure you have up to date backup of your data.

 

When you are starting out, suggest booting Mint from USB until you are comfortable. Use the USB to try out the various flavours of Mint, Linux etc.  Do dual boot only when you settle on something.

Ah! been there and have the mental scaring to prove it :lol:

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I have a Dell XP15 and do like Dell.  See whether you can get a model with Usb3 because @aussievintage idea of dual booting off Usb3 is excellent.

 

Dell often has sales on eBay, so you should wait for one...

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https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-laptop-i5512gb

 

Thanks for the advice and thoughts folks.   Went with the Dell today.   Happy with the price and the specs.   Not much else I need.   I will download a few Office Software package from somewhere.

 

My plan is to go down the route suggested and set up a Virtual Machine to install Linus Mint OS to explore its worthiness.

 

All going well, if I like Linux, I will update my current PC with some new hardware and install a fresh Mint (?) OS. 

 

Regards Cazzesman  

 

 

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