2020 Yamaha AVRs with HDMI 2.1 -Rumor Mill

[hbaruas 1]

From the Webpage :

 

" No HDMI 2.1 receivers were officially announced at CES 2020 but Yamaha's 2020 line-up of Aventage receivers will seemingly be one of the first to arrive with HDMI 2.1. The Yamaha RX-A8 (11 channels), RX-A6 (9 channels), RX-A4 (7 channels) and RX-A2 (7 channels) were detailed in a now-removed video and summarized in German Hi Fi forum."

 

For those who understand German , here is a link to the German Hi Fi forum post.

Edited January 13, 2020 by hbaruas
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[Mr_Gadget 290]

Im more interested in whether they have improved YPAO, especially in the lower frequencies.

[hopefullguy 404]

yamaha always playing catch up.. pass

[hbaruas 1]

8 hours ago, hopefullguy said:

yamaha always playing catch up.. pass

Why do you say that ?

I don't think any other manufacturer has released HDMI 2.1 AVR's yet.

[betty boop 15,813]

marantz for instance haven't released hdmi2.1 just promised an upgrade on flagship models..

 

am not aware of anything real;y hdmi 2.1

 

keeping in mind hdmi 2.1 is a feature set. so they might just enable capability or compatibility of one feature... though can say it is hdmi 2.1 doesnt mean it meets entire spec....or fully capable

 

anyways good yamaha is not going down beaten track with look of their avrs... look like a new breed

 

its far too early with hdmi 2.1 also has very little impact on most i woudl suggest bar some small few playing games with variable or high frame rate. or wanting new version of hdmi control that never ever properly worked in prior editions... yes cynical... oems always looking for an excuse to get folk to turn gear over... that said its quite possible Yamaha are also going al lout with new range and improving on prior sonically and such... so may not be all about hdmi 2.1 

[cwt 1,023]

They will all have 2.1 soon though tempered by some 2.1 features already available like E-ARC with d#m holdings models which echoes whats been said.

 

The top line avr has added 2 extra power amps to feed 7.1.4 without an addon it seems ;  no mention of auro3d and the channel count has stalled from some generations ago .Class D amps would help with that.  Whats the odds it still has useless analogue video inputs still ? They have looked at the Emo pre pros and said yeah a big volume pot in the middle looks good  

[Mr_Gadget 290]

I've been a fan of Yamaha since I began my HT journey. My first AVR was the Yamaha 795a. Fairly low in their model range but hey I just started working full time!

 

I have not had a Yamaha since this model, I would go back to the brand if they improved their sub EQ. I think they build some nice AVR's ,pre-pro with great build quality and reliability. Not sure I'm a fan of their new look though.

 

I remember going into a store a couple of years ago ( I think it was Audio Trends) and the salesman said if you want an exciting sound then go with Yamaha, if it's room correction you're looking for then go with Anthem.

Edited January 15, 2020 by Mr_Gadget

[Avinit 3]

On 15/01/2020 at 7:43 PM, hbaruas said:

Why do you say that ?

I don't think any other manufacturer has released HDMI 2.1 AVR's yet.

I cant really understand why noone has jumped on this yet, with a large amount of people holding off until its released, its a good chance to snag a large chunk of new customers and sales.

[hopefullguy 404]

sorry looking at yamaha avrs in general not just the flagship.. the 2nd in line still only has 9 preouts the 3rd in line gets 7.. thats poor when the mid denon 3600 gets 11 channels of processing.

 

maybe 2.1 is important but so is the need for expanding the system in your room.

 

i remember the rxa3040 being released with atmos only and people being sucked into buying it only to have denon/onkyo release dtsx/atmos in their avrs.. couldnt get half your money back less than 12 months of owning a 3040 as yammy announced the 3050 would have atmos/dtsx during that time.. they seem to always lag.

 

this time maybe different but if they dont match say the 3600 in their so call top 3 whats the point?

[bizzibee 55]

On 14/01/2020 at 8:41 AM, hbaruas said:

For those who understand German , here is a link to the German Hi Fi forum post.

There is some info here on this thread:

 

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/3115936-yamaha-aventage-rx-a8-rx-a6-rx-a4-rx-a2-new-2020-models.html

 

Edit: Sorry no additional info in the thread above.

 

https://en24.news/2020/01/yamaha-2020-av-receivers-support-hdmi-2-1-allm-qms-and-vrr.html

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hifi-forum.de%2Fviewthread-276-8366.html

 

Edited January 20, 2020 by bizzibee

[bizzibee 55]

Official specs for RX-V4A and 6A listed on US Yamaha site.

 

If I'm reading this correctly, it looks  all HDMI ports support  HDR10+, 8K/60Hz, 4K/120Hz, ALLM, VRR, QMS  & QFT (via a future firmware update).

 

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-v6a/index.html

 

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8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz HDMI (with future firmware update) with HDCP 2.3 and eARC (7 in/1 out)
Supports enhanced media and gaming – ALLM, VRR, QFT, QMS (with future firmware update)

 

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-v4a/index.html

 

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8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz HDMI (with future firmware update) with HDCP 2.3 and eARC (4-in/1-out)
Supports enhanced media and gaming – ALLM, VRR, QFT, QMS (with future firmware update)

 

That being the case, they have the drop on both Denon & Marantz at this point in time. But note that these features are only available via a future firmware update.

 

Copies of User Manuals:

 

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/7/1335527/web_AV19-0004_RX-V4A_ug_UCRABGLFPH_En_A0.pdf

 

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/3/1335553/web_AV19-0030_RX-V6A_ug_UCRABGLFPH_En_A0.pdf

 

 

Edit:

 

Looks like not all HDMI Ports support HDR10+, 8K/60Hz, 4K/120Hz, ALLM, VRR, QMS & QFT (via a future firmware update). Only 3 on the RX-V6A but all 4 inputs on the RX-V4A according to Press Release:

 

Yamaha Unveils Next-Gen AV Receivers, Featuring Multiple 8K Inputs, New Look and Immersive Technology

 

https://www.prweb.com/releases/yamaha_unveils_next_gen_av_receivers_featuring_multiple_8k_inputs_new_look_and_immersive_technology/prweb17345535.html

 

Another article with more info:

 

Yamaha's new 8K AV receivers make HDMI 2.1 home cinema affordable

 

https://www.whathifi.com/au/news/yamahas-new-8k-av-receivers-make-hdmi-21-home-cinema-affordable

 

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The rather handsome, "redesigned" RX-V line-up consists of the 5.1-channel RX-V4A and the 7.2-channel RX-V6A. Both support 8K and HDR10+, as well as VRR (Variable Refresh Rate), which should deliver smoother console gameplay.

 

Looks like some like the new look!

 

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Before you get too excited, though, Yamaha has confirmed that none of these features, even the 8K support, will be included at launch. Instead, they'll be coming via a firmware update that's "tentatively" scheduled for December.

 

That isn't too long to wait considering it has way more HDMI 2.1 Ports that the other offerings.

 

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Perhaps best of all, Yamaha is being decidedly aggressive on price: the 100W-per-channel Yamaha RX-V6A costs £649 (AU$1299), while the 80W RX-V4A comes in at just £449 (about AU$899). Both are due to hit shelves in October, just in time for the launch of the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

 

That's not too bad really!

 

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Before you get too excited, though, Yamaha has confirmed that none of these features, even the 8K support, will be included at launch. Instead, they'll be coming via a firmware update that's "tentatively" scheduled for December.

 

But I guess people will have to wait until December for all the features.

 

Copies of User Manuals:

 

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/7/1335527/web_AV19-0004_RX-V4A_ug_UCRABGLFPH_En_A0.pdf

 

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/3/1335553/web_AV19-0030_RX-V6A_ug_UCRABGLFPH_En_A0.pdf

Additional Information and Webinar

 

To learn more about the new RX-V series and capabilities, Yamaha is hosting a webinar, open to the public, on Thursday, August 27 at 5:00 p.m. Eastern / 2:00 p.m. Pacific. See what's in store and register here:

 

https://Yamaha.io/avr827

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by bizzibee

[bizzibee 55]

The new RX-V4A & RX-V6A are on the Australian Yamaha site now:

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/index.html

 

RX-V4A  $899

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-v4a/index.html

 

RX-V6A $1,299

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-v6a/index.html

 

Same pricing as the RX-V685 ($1299), but $50 more than the RX-V485 ($849)

 

RX-V6A successor of the RX-V685

RX-V4A successor of the RX-V485

Edited August 25, 2020 by bizzibee

[bizzibee 55]

As reported in the thread on AVSforum, all four new Aventage models up on Amazon (with pricing). They will be available for purchase on 21st October in the US.

 

RX-A2A (7.2 receiver) $799.95 USD

 

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-AVENTAGE-7-1-Channel-Receiver-MusicCast/dp/B08DWKCHH6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Z33WOIOH1QEH&dchild=1&keywords=yamaha+receiver&qid=1598528298&sprefix=yamaha+r,aps,201&sr=8-1

 

RX-A4A (7.2 receiver) $1,299.95 USD

 

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-AVENTAGE-7-1-Channel-Receiver-MusicCast/dp/B08DXF1CP6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Z33WOIOH1QEH&dchild=1&keywords=yamaha+receiver&qid=1598528241&sprefix=yamaha+r,aps,201&sr=8-3

 

RX-A6A (9.2 receiver) $2,199.95 USD

 

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-AVENTAGE-9-2-Channel-Receiver-MusicCast/dp/B08DXMTQ1N/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1Z33WOIOH1QEH&dchild=1&keywords=yamaha+receiver&qid=1598528241&sprefix=yamaha+r,aps,201&sr=8-4

 

RX-A8A (11.2 receiver) $2,999.95 USD

 

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-AVENTAGE-11-2-Channel-Receiver-MusicCast/dp/B08DXT8198/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1Z33WOIOH1QEH&dchild=1&keywords=yamaha+receiver&qid=1598528241&sprefix=yamaha+r,aps,201&sr=8-2

 

As posted earlier here is a compilation of the rear inputs and outputs of the RX-A8, RX-A6 and RX-A3080 to compare changes between models:

 

https://www.avsforum.com/attachments/yamaha-rx-a8-j-rx-a6-and-rx-a3080-rear-pdf.3032039/

 

The RX-A8 pricing will be around $6K

The RX-A6 pricing will be around $3.5K

 

That makes the pricing make more sense if you checkout the back of the RX-A8, RX-A6 and RX-A3080.

 

They have raised the bar on their top RX-A8A receiver to include 11 amplified channels, whereas the RX-A3080 is 9 amplified channels.

 

RX-A8 (11 amplified channels) = completely new model

RX-A6 (9 amplified channels) = successor of the RX-A3080

RX-A4 (7 amplified channels) = successor of the RX-A1080

RX-A2 (7 amplified channels) = successor of the RX-A880

RX-V6 (7 amplified channels) = successor of the RX-V685

RX-V4 (5 amplified channels) = successor of the RX-V485

 

So the RX-A6 is more in line with the Denon AVR-X4700H 9 channels ($3,490), and the RX-A8 more in line with the Denon AVR-X6700H 11 channels ($6,190).

 

 

Edit: Amazon Links not working. You can still see them in this google web cache until it expires:

 

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cLUxtA7_LoAJ:https://www.amazon.com/Receivers-Amplifiers-Coming-Soon-Home-Theater/s%3Frh%3Dn%253A281053%252Cp_n_date%253A1249034011+&cd=15&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

 

I thought they might get removed because they weren't even on the US Yamaha site.

 

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/index.html

 

The pictures displayed on Amazon were actually of each respective model as I checked that. So Yamaha must have provided those images to Amazon. I quess someone at Amazon jumped the gun.

 

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by bizzibee
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[betty boop 15,813]

On 28/08/2020 at 1:38 PM, bizzibee said:

 

They have raised the bar on their top RX-A8A receiver to include 11 amplified channels, whereas the RX-A3080 is 9 amplified channels.

 

RX-A8 (11 amplified channels) = completely new model

I wonder if there will be a rebirthed Z 

 

or is that hallowed and reserved for something else flagship like ... going above beyond ...

 

no pre amp ? Shame I reckon yam could make a beauty ? And these new release are making their CX series looking date by comparison 

[bizzibee 55]

21 hours ago, betty boop said:

I wonder if there will be a rebirthed Z 

Who would know what they have planned. The RX-A8 11 channels at approx. $6000 AUD is comparable to the Denon AVR-X6700H 11 channels ($6,190). But Yamaha don't anything comparable to Denon's Flagship AVR-X8500H.

 

21 hours ago, betty boop said:

no pre amp ? Shame I reckon yam could make a beauty ? And these new release are making their CX series looking date by comparison 

I'm sure that they will release a new Pre-Pro and possibly another new power Amp with more channels. The real question is when.

 

 

Anyway I think it is important to acknowledge that the new 2020 Yamaha AVRs provide multiple HDMI 2.1 input ports, and it does look like a complete redesign from the ground up. That could be a double edge sword I guess. Hopefully the new electronis design has be well engineered. I'm very interested to know if the Yamaha HDMI 2.1 Ports support only 40Gbps like on the new Denon & Marantz AVRs. Or have they done one better and provided the full 48Gbps that will support 12-bit Colour (that is supported by Dolby Vision). But there arn't any consumer TV's that support 12-Bit Colour so it is a moot point at this time.

 

To me, Denon and Marantz seem to have both chosen a adhoc upgrade and only provided a single HDMI 2.1 input port. Their story that they didn't want to included more because it would have force up the price of the AVRs doesn't seem to add up when you consider that the new Yamaha AVRs are priced almost exactly the same as the previuos models without HDMI 2.1. Anyway you could argue that you only need one HDMI 2.1 Port at the present time (given the number of devices available), which I guess is fair enough.

 

So those interested, here is a picture of the RX-A8A from the AVSForums thread of the new Yamaha models.

 

https://www.avsforum.com/attachments/yamaha-rx-a8-front-61gftgdxpml-_ac_sl1500_-jpg.3032489/

 

https://www.avsforum.com/attachments/yamaha-rx-a8-front-corrected-61gftgdxpml-_ac_sl1500_-jpg.3032490/

 

Taken from this post:

 

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/yamaha-aventage-rx-a8-rx-a6-rx-a4-rx-a2-new-2020-models.3115936/post-60067318

 

I must admit, the new look is growing on me. The RX-A8A, RX-A6A, RX-A4A & RX-A2A doesn't seem to have the front rounded edge that both the RX-V6A & RX-V4A have.

 

RX-A8A, RX-A6A, RX-A4A & RX-A2A

 

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cLUxtA7_LoAJ:https://www.amazon.com/Receivers-Amplifiers-Coming-Soon-Home-Theater/s%3Frh%3Dn%253A281053%252Cp_n_date%253A1249034011+&cd=15&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

 

RX-V6A & RX-V4A

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/files/overview_header_img_v6a_992a28f5d0c8a88243205639aa55d1e6.jpg

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/files/overview_header_img_v4a_1b98ae848011984d9ee277a3ef2580c4.jpg

 

Edited August 31, 2020 by bizzibee

[cwt 1,023]

3 hours ago, bizzibee said:

Anyway I think it is important to acknowledge that the new 2020 Yamaha AVRs provide multiple HDMI 2.1 input ports, and it does look like a complete redesign from the ground up. That could be a double edge sword I guess. Hopefully the new electronis design has be well engineered. I'm very interested to know if the Yamaha HDMI 2.1 Ports support only 40Gbps like on the new Denon & Marantz AVRs. Or have they done one better and provided the full 48Gbps that will support 12-bit Colour (that is supported by Dolby Vision). But there arn't any consumer TV's that support 12-Bit Colour so it is a moot point at this time.

Its a matter of gearing up for the new chipsets bizzi ; denon wanted to be 1st which is ok for those with 1 ps5 or x box i imagine  Looking at the back panel of a 3080 with its 2ch xlr in and out I see much the same connectivity so they have just put a new fascia on likely and tweaked the dsp processing.. Easy enough to slip a new hdmi sub board in 

 

Yes the new fascia has a nice symmetrical look about it certainly ; too bad they couldnt size up the front panel readout [ probably looked at the dinky marantz porthole  ] and didnt like a giant flap..

 

40gbps is fine for the 4k 60fps games with dolby vision coming dont worry ; David meyer lists bandwidth requirements =24.06gbps

https://community.cedia.net/blogs/david-meyer/2018/05/16/hdmi-data-rates-for-4k-hdr

[betty boop 15,813]

5 hours ago, bizzibee said:

Anyway I think it is important to acknowledge that the new 2020 Yamaha AVRs provide multiple HDMI 2.1 input ports, and it does look like a complete redesign from the ground up

good on em ! definitely some commitment, but yeah could be double edge sword like you say

 

5 hours ago, bizzibee said:

f the Yamaha HDMI 2.1 Ports support only 40Gbps like on the new Denon & Marantz AVRs. Or have they done one better and provided the full 48Gbps that will support 12-bit Colour (that is supported by Dolby Vision). But there arn't any consumer TV's that support 12-Bit Colour so it is a moot point at this time.

will be a time if the case... but will also tell us ... this will keep folk on the upgrade mill as when the full bandwidth units come ... people will upgrade again ! 

 

5 hours ago, bizzibee said:

To me, Denon and Marantz seem to have both chosen a adhoc upgrade and only provided a single HDMI 2.1 input port. Their story that they didn't want to included more because it would have force up the price of the AVRs doesn't seem to add up when you consider that the new Yamaha AVRs are priced almost exactly the same as the previuos models without HDMI 2.1. Anyway you could argue that you only need one HDMI 2.1 Port at the present time (given the number of devices available), which I guess is fair enough.

yep doesnt add up on denon and marantz s part. especially on their flagship units. silly move if ask me ! again another reason to keep folks on the upgrade treadmill ! 

 

5 hours ago, bizzibee said:

I must admit, the new look is growing on me.

godo to see commitment with yamaha. and yes do hope means they eventually update their processors as well  

[Mullins! 5]

Damn! The RX-V6A is exactly what I'm after but I need 2, HDMI outputs! 

Hopefully they announce a model 1 step up that's not way more expensive.

Surely it's not going to jump from $1,300-$,3000!

 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Mullins!

[bizzibee 55]

On 03/09/2020 at 5:45 PM, Mullins! said:

Damn! The RX-V6A is exactly what I'm after but I need 2, HDMI outputs! 

Hopefully they announce a model 1 step up that's not way more expensive.

Surely it's not going to jump from $1,300-$,3000!

You will have to buy the RX-A4A to get dual HDMI Outputs. See:

 

 

 

Even the new RX-A2A doesn't have dual HDMI outputs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If it was me, I'd just buy the RX-V6A and connect a 8K HDMI Switcher to the single HDMI output.

 

 

 

As reported, the new RX-V6A will come with YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement. This will be the first time this has been offered in the lower end range. The RX-V685 does include YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) as does the RX-A680, but without no Multipoint measurement.

 

The current RX-V385, RX-V485 & RX-V585 only have the very basic version of YPAO sound optimization without Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.). It looks like the new RX-V4A will only have the very basic version of YPAO.

 

Previously, YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement only started with the RX-A880. The RX-A1080 then included YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement and 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation.

 

The RX-A2080 adds YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

Finally the RX-A3080 has YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit High Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

It would be good if Yamaha have tweaked and improved YPAO in all its forms.

 

It will be intesting to see what form of YPAO the new RX-A2A, RX-A4A, RX-A6A & RX-8A come with.

 

 

 

 

 

Here are some pictures of the rear of the new Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A2A, RX-A4A, RX-A6A & RX-A8A models

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A2A:

 

 

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A4A:

 

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A6A:

 

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A:

 

 

 

Taken from this post in the AVSForum thread "Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8, RX-A6, RX-A4, RX-A2 (NEW 2020 Models)" here:

 

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/yamaha-aventage-rx-a8-rx-a6-rx-a4-rx-a2-new-2020-models.3115936/post-60079446

 

 

 

Here is a site that has better pictures of the new Yamaha AVENTAGE models from different angles, remotes etc:

 

Yamaha RX-A2A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047063/

 

Yamaha RX-A4A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047064/

 

Yamaha RX-A6A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047066/

 

Yamaha RX-A8A :

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047067/

 

You can clearly see that the new AVENTAGE models have flat fronts like existing AVENTAGE models, where as the new V Series both have rounded fronts.

 

Yamaha RX-V4A :

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/Yamaha+RX-V4A/

 

Yamaha RX-V6A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/Yamaha+RX-V6A/

 

 

 

[Mr_Gadget 290]

Are they too embarrassed to put the power consumption on the back?

[Syrot 159]

Not sure the new look is practical, having the large volume in the middle and then having a smaller display off to the side looks a bit out of place to me. 

[bizzibee 55]

3 hours ago, Mr_Gadget said:

Are they too embarrassed to put the power consumption on the back?

I think most of those images of the Aventage Series are generic, leaked and not specific to any one particular county’s power source. The exception is the RX-A2A.

[Mullins! 5]

On 09/09/2020 at 12:59 PM, bizzibee said:

You will have to buy the RX-A4A to get dual HDMI Outputs. See:

 

 

 

Even the new RX-A2A doesn't have dual HDMI outputs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If it was me, I'd just buy the RX-V6A and connect a 8K HDMI Switcher to the single HDMI output.

 

 

 

As reported, the new RX-V6A will come with YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement. This will be the first time this has been offered in the lower end range. The RX-V685 does include YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) as does the RX-A680, but without no Multipoint measurement.

 

The current RX-V385, RX-V485 & RX-V585 only have the very basic version of YPAO sound optimization without Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.). It looks like the new RX-V4A will only have the very basic version of YPAO.

 

Previously, YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement only started with the RX-A880. The RX-A1080 then included YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement and 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation.

 

The RX-A2080 adds YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

Finally the RX-A3080 has YPAO Reflected Sound Control (R.S.C.) with Multipoint measurement 3D, 64-bit High Precision EQ Calculation and Angle Measurement.

 

It would be good if Yamaha have tweaked and improved YPAO in all its forms.

 

It will be intesting to see what form of YPAO the new RX-A2A, RX-A4A, RX-A6A & RX-8A come with.

 

 

 

 

 

Here are some pictures of the rear of the new Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A2A, RX-A4A, RX-A6A & RX-A8A models

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A2A:

 

 

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A4A:

 

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A6A:

 

 

Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A:

 

 

 

Taken from this post in the AVSForum thread "Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8, RX-A6, RX-A4, RX-A2 (NEW 2020 Models)" here:

 

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/yamaha-aventage-rx-a8-rx-a6-rx-a4-rx-a2-new-2020-models.3115936/post-60079446

 

 

 

Here is a site that has better pictures of the new Yamaha AVENTAGE models from different angles, remotes etc:

 

Yamaha RX-A2A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047063/

 

Yamaha RX-A4A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047064/

 

Yamaha RX-A6A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047066/

 

Yamaha RX-A8A :

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/13047067/

 

You can clearly see that the new AVENTAGE models have flat fronts like existing AVENTAGE models, where as the new V Series both have rounded fronts.

 

Yamaha RX-V4A :

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/Yamaha+RX-V4A/

 

Yamaha RX-V6A:

https://www.on-off-on.ru/catalog/vsye-dlya-kinoteatra/av-resivery/Yamaha+RX-V6A/

 

 

 

That's so weird that their budget receiver has Duel HDMI out and the more powerful models don't!

 

I don't want to use a HDMI switcher... And if I bought the A4A it might actually be a downgrade from my Sony Stnr 1080.

 

Meanwhile the 2020 Denon and Marantz only have 1 true 8k input... So annoying lol

[Dunnersfella 12]

6 hours ago, Mullins! said:

That's so weird that their budget receiver has Duel HDMI out and the more powerful models don't!

 

I don't want to use a HDMI switcher... And if I bought the A4A it might actually be a downgrade from my Sony Stnr 1080.

 

Meanwhile the 2020 Denon and Marantz only have 1 true 8k input... So annoying lol

I believe you have mis-read / interpreted the posts...

The new budget AVR's from Yamaha don't have dual HDMI outputs whatsoever.

 

I would assume that it's far easier to add an HDMI splitter to the output for the average consumer... than it is for them to add an HDMI switch to the inputs and then figure out how to control it from there.

Sooooo... they've put their entry level $'s into inputs, not outputs.

[Mullins! 5]

Ahh ok, I see. Still, buying an external switcher is frustrating when you're used to having 2 outputs.

[Mullins! 5]

Anyone recommend an 8k HDMI splitter? Haha

[betty boop 15,813]

hehe

 

if need dual outs honestly just get the avr with dual outs. splitters and such only introduce more points of grief... and with hdmi last thing need is more grief  this is for current hdmi let alone hdmi 2.1 which is still not even on its way to sorting its self out  

[bizzibee 55]

Clef HiFi are discounting both the RX-V6A ($200 off to $1,099.00), and RX-V4A ($100 off to $799.00).

 

RX-V6A:

https://clefhifi.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=4742

 

RX-V4A:

https://clefhifi.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=4741

 

VideoPro say they have the RX-V6A in stock at their Helensvale store. See:

 

https://www.videopro.com.au/p-13798-yamaha-rxv6a-72ch-av-receiver.aspx

 

Radio Parts say they have 22 RX-V6A in stock. Did have 34 yesterday morning. See:

 

https://www.radioparts.com.au/product/01618580/rxv6-yamaha-home-theatre-receiver#.X3Pnr1lS_E4

 

Just received this email CHT Solutions confirming they also have stock (3 after filling all pre-orders) of the RX-V6A.

 

Quote

The Yamaha RX-V6A Has Finally Arrived!

 

Hi Mark,

We're glad to announce we've finally received some stock of the highly anticipated Yamaha RX-V6A AV Receiver.

Looking for an affordable 7.2ch 8K AV Receiver with Dolby Atmos, then this is for you.

Stock is very limited with only 3 left in stock after our pre-orders were filled.

We're offering the pre-order deal on these last remaining units to our tribe which was $200 off RRP.

Coupon Code: RX-V6A-Deal

Simply enter at checkout which brings the price down to $1099 delivered.

 

https://www.customht.com.au/products/yamaha-rx-v6a-av-receiver

 

They only have 1 left in stock now.

Edited October 1, 2020 by bizzibee

[Mullins! 5]

Clef are great to shop with btw

[Mullins! 5]

I'm gonna wait for the higher end models though

[Johndal 1]

I have to replace my Yamaha A2000 under insurance, new for old. It would be nice if the new RX-A6 was available but now. Enquiries around town tell me that the new series will not be available until May. In the meantime Yamaha is making some more of the old series.

John

[Mullins! 5]

May? Dang it, that's a fair wait. At least they can iron out some HDMI 2.1 bugs that the RX series will no doubt have. 

[hopefullguy 404]

well then you need to wait until May, no good getting the inferior V model.. vs previous yammy range when the V and A were the same.

[Johndal 1]

Waiting is possible, but in the meantime the sound levels will be very quiet! I hope that the repairs at home will be done by the end of the month and we can move back in. It would be a long wait and after a brief and confusing look I do not see another brand in the similar price bracket that is much better than the RX-A2080 which is the direct insurance replacement. Any ideas?.

[bizzibee 55]

I'm posting this info regarding how to get the new Yamaha HDMI 2.1 AVR's to display the exact digital audio stream it is receiving from a source. A new owner asked how to do this in a thread on the new Yamaha HDMI 2.1 over on Whirlpool here:

 

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/35q8l8n3?p=27#r533

 

I thought I would post the solution here in the hope it might help other new owners.

 

While on the source, if you click in and spin the small knob on the right of the front panel clockwise, you can show the audio decoder display underneath the source name and see what the AVR is getting from the source. See:

 

RX-V6A Manual: Selecting the input information displayed on the front display:

 

https://manual.yamaha.com/av/20/rxv6a/en-US/316307979.html

 

RX-A2A Manual: Selecting the input information displayed on the front display

 

https://manual.yamaha.com/av/20/rxa2a/en-US/316307979.html

 

How to setup this as a function on the YELLOW/BLUE keys on the remote control

 

If you go into the Menu: 'Setup > Function > User Interface > Remote Colour Key', then use the left or right keys to change the 'Key Assign' to "<Display Control>", you will find the yellow and blue buttons will do the same as turning the small knob left or right and you can cycle through the display options for Decoder/Channel Output, etc. This will save you from having do this with the knob on the front of the receiver as detailed above.

 

RX-V6A Manual "RED/GREEN/YELLOW/BLUE keys on the remote control":

 

https://manual.yamaha.com/av/20/rxv6a/en-US/318773515.html

 

RX-A2A Manual "RED/GREEN/YELLOW/BLUE keys on the remote control":

 

https://manual.yamaha.com/av/20/rxa2a/en-US/318773515.html

 

On the previous non HDMI 2.1 Yamaha models the receiver wouldn't display the exact digital audio stream it is receiving from a source, but only show "SUR.DECODER"..... no "DOLBY ATMOS OR DTS X or other content. See this thread on Whirlpool for the solution. See:

 

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/9j0llzq9?p=30#r587

 

 

Edited January 23 by bizzibee

[cwt 1,023]

On 04/10/2020 at 5:51 PM, Mullins! said:

I'm gonna wait for the higher end models though

If thats the case Mullins ; Ide consider the new Pioneers or even Onkyos'  . Apart from the superior dirac live over YPAO or MCACC  they will be using a competitor chipset to the panasonic chipset the yammies need to have fixed for 120hz game playback ..

 

Depends on how easy you want setup to be though ; there will be easy and then better with a calibrated mike . Of course things are moving slower now with covid and chipset factory fires like AKM just experienced 

 

 

[bizzibee 55]

Here is a good review of the RX-V6A by Audioholics with extensive review of the Web Setup interface.

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the proposed Firmware update schedule from Yamaha for their 2020/2021 AVR's:

 

4K120A – Firmware update April-June 2021
VRR(Variable Refresh Rate) – Firmware update March 2021
ALLM(Auto Low Latency Mode) – Firmware update April 2021
QMS(Quick Media Switching) – Firmware update April 2021
HDR10+(Dynamic HDR) – Firmware update April 2021
QFT(Quick Frame Transport) – Firmware update April 2021
8K60B & 4K120B – Firmware update September 2021
Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization – Firmware update April 2021

 

 

 

[bizzibee 55]

The first of the new Aventage Series, the RX-A2A is now available in Australia at retailers. The RX-A2A is now on the Australian Yamaha Site. See:

 

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-a2a/index.html

 

But still says that it is coming, which it already has as some people have already purchased the RX-A2A here in Australia. A google search will show retailers who have it in stock or are getting stock.

 

Here is a features comparison between the RX-A2A & RX-V6A. See:

 

https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/yamaha-rx-a2a/australia/yamaha-rx-v6a/australia/

 

Differences:

 

RX-A2A has flat front fascia, detachable power cord, A.R.T. Wedge and 4 years warranty, while the RX-V6A has rounded front fascia, 2 years warranty.

 

RX-A2A is 10.2 kg, while the RX-V6A is 9.8 kg. 

 

The external casing of the RX-A2A is thicker than the RX-V6A. A comparison of the back panel shows that the side and top casings of the RX-A2A is much thicker and deeper than the RX-V6A.

 

The feet of the RX-A2A are different and features dampening materials.

 

The filter capacitors in RX-A2A are rated at 10,000uF while RX-V6A are rated  at 8,200uF. So the RX-A2A will have extra punch and power at higher volume due to the larger capacitor.

 

RXA2A has IR in / out (3.5mm)

 

Remote control on the RX-A2A is different to the remote of the RX-V6A & RX-V4A.

 

Here is a Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A2 review showing the RX-A2A side by side with the RX-V6A. They remove the side and top cases.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 23 by bizzibee

[bizzibee 55]

Excel HiFi have added a number of Refurb units of the new HDMI 2.1 AVR's to their Web site as follows:

 

Yamaha RX-A2 *Refurbished* $999.00 (-38% off RRP)

Yamaha RX-V4A *Refurbished* $599.00 (-33% off RRP) – Now Out of Stock

 

See:

https://www.excelhifi.com.au/audio-visual-receivers/

 

The rest of the new Aventage HDMI 2.1 Series is rumoured to be in store by May 2021.

Edited February 4 by bizzibee

[bizzibee 55]

11 hours ago, bizzibee said:

Excel HiFi have added a number of Refurb units of the new HDMI 2.1 AVR's to their Web site as follows:

 

Yamaha RX-A2 *Refurbished* $999.00 (-38% off RRP)

Yamaha RX-V4A *Refurbished* $599.00 (-33% off RRP) – Now Out of Stock

 

See:

https://www.excelhifi.com.au/audio-visual-receivers/

 

Yamaha RX-A2 *Refurbished* $999.00 (-38% off RRP) - Now Out of Stock as well

Yamaha RX-V4A *Refurbished* $599.00 (-33% off RRP) – Now Out of Stock