cheekyboy Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 That looks even better John...........great looking phono stage. Hmmmmmmmmm...... Cheers, Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 John Got any close up pics of the front panel and back panel of the Edison? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Y Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 This guy sums it up pretty well. http://www.soldano.c...ate-rectifiers/ I thought switching noise wasn't much of a problem these days with these snubbers, fast or zero recovery diodes etc - I could be wrong I guess it ultimately just depends on the type of sound you want and, which is of course, very subjective. (Sorry to digress further....) Guitar amp makers design for distortion & tone whereas amps for audio should be designed for minimal distortion, accuracy, musicality. However it is true I think, that the a lot of the "tube sound" of older style tube amps is due to the PSU & tube rectification. I try to be openminded when I use or build anything amp-wise, I've used schottkys & fast-soft recovery diodes, but I prefer tubes...partly because SS is less forgiving of abuse than tubes (contrary to common belief!). Personally I keep SS away from signal paths & use SS only in DC heater supplies of non-directly heated tubes. But that's just my (non-professional) opinion...it just sounds better to me that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnA Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 John Got any close up pics of the front panel and back panel of the Edison? cheers rear of unit cant find a good high res of the front, this is the best i could find and in silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) ta John silver does look good I see no rca out, xlr only. That is pretty stupid. Are they trying to be Burmeister or something. Also, with the spacing of the 3 inputs, it is going to be mighty hard to connect all 3 inputs to a tonearm or table, especially input 3. nigh impossible to get any tonearm cable to split that far when it is your third arm/table. Edited April 21, 2012 by turntable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrengday Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I found the original picture, so here's the obligatory gratuitously explicit cartridge closeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirus Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (Sorry to digress further....) Guitar amp makers design for distortion & tone whereas amps for audio should be designed for minimal distortion, accuracy, musicality. However it is true I think, that the a lot of the "tube sound" of older style tube amps is due to the PSU & tube rectification. I can't disagree with that! I try to be openminded when I use or build anything amp-wise, I've used schottkys & fast-soft recovery diodes, but I prefer tubes...partly because SS is less forgiving of abuse than tubes (contrary to common belief!). Personally I keep SS away from signal paths & use SS only in DC heater supplies of non-directly heated tubes. But that's just my (non-professional) opinion...it just sounds better to me that way. SS slow start circuits are not uncommon to prevent this. And as the guy says, as current increases, the voltage drops - it's inherent in all tube rectifiers which means a drop in power when you need it most. Please don't get me wrong though - I like the sound of valve. it's just easier and more cost effective to achieve a more reliable, efficient, accurate and controllable DC from SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Y Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I see no rca out, xlr only. That is pretty stupid. Are they trying to be Burmeister or something. Also, with the spacing of the 3 inputs, it is going to be mighty hard to connect all 3 inputs to a tonearm or table, especially input 3. nigh impossible to get any tonearm cable to split that far when it is your third arm/table. Their specs say 3 RCA inputs, 2 of which are avail as XLR connections. Actually a phono cart is a balanced source, so Balanced XLR should be the only way to connect phono. Noise problems might be signif lessened too (superior noise rejection). Another German phono preamp, the Aqvox, offers the same... http://www.stereophile.com/phonopreamps/708aqvox/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren M. Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Warrennnnnnn I can understand the tube preamplifier but why would it use a use a tube rectifier? Is that just to be consistent with the overall design being ‘all tube’? You'd get much cleaner results with a solid state rectifier - surely? I'm not the person to ask about design decisions in an amplifier. All I can tell you is that the MiniMax phono preamp is the best I've ever auditioned, let alone owned. If the 6X4 is integral to how it sounds, then Eastern Electric have made the right choice. Cheers, Warren Edited April 22, 2012 by warrenmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Their specs say 3 RCA inputs, 2 of which are avail as XLR connections.Actually a phono cart is a balanced source, so Balanced XLR should be the only way to connect phono. Noise problems might be signif lessened too (superior noise rejection). Another German phono preamp, the Aqvox, offers the same...http://www.stereophi...eamps/708aqvox/ Hi Owen, I am talking about the output, not the 3 inputs. Xlr only. There is no RCA output, as I said this is the only phono stage I have ever seen with RCA inputs, but no RCA output.Aqvox offers Xlr and RCA outputs. Can't say I was enamored by it's sound, despite the so called superior balanced plug. YMMV. I think superior design may have a more I importent role to play.I will not get involved in single ended vs balanced as both are valid and both when done correctly do not have noise issues. There is not one superior noise reduction method. Edited April 22, 2012 by turntable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozrayyau Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 My Bare Denon DL-103s with orsonic Head shell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Hifi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Jeez a naked DL-103. There is something I didn't think I would see Here are some happy-snaps of my 'vintage' Monster Cable Alpha 1 MC cartridge (soon to be replaced with a Denon DL-S1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunalraiker Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Look out for this space, something exciting coming up soon Stay Tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batty Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 My Bare Denon DL-103s with orsonic Head shell Looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekyboy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Plus one Oz for the Orsonic headshell.........had one on the Jelco arm on my Garrard 401 and I still miss that rig. Cheers, Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozrayyau Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Another Denon DL-103 Gold Soundsmith Ruby Retip. I love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochremoon Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Hey Ray, How does the naked DL103s sound in comparison to the stock cart? Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozrayyau Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Chris, Open and live. Are you going to Mod your 103s? Cheers Ray Edited May 13, 2012 by ozrayyau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozrayyau Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 My AT-33 PTG with Audio craft AC-3000MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozrayyau Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Another Denon DL-103D with Rega RB250 on Hanss Acoustics T-10 Turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochremoon Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Chris, Open and live. Are you going to Mod your 103s? Cheers Ray Not in the near future. I want to explore some of the smoother, warmer carts now, like one or two from the Benz and Grado lines, as sometimes my analog front end can sound too similar to cd. I have read very good things about that AT33-PTG though. Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A J Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Here's my DIY regulated PSU for my Graham Slee communicator. Rock steady at 24v and superbly quiet noise floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viognier Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 I really liked the look of the Ortofon LH8000 headshell, so when i was looking to mod a Denon 103R and mount it in one of Lovetube's wooden bodies I thought that they would make an excellent match. I handed over the headshell to Duc and let him pick the best match, which turned out to be this lovely snakeskin. Duc then had to make a special width body for me to match the width of the Ortofon headshell. I think he has done an amazing job not only matching the timbers but also in aligning it with the width of the headshell. A very professional finish. I am not very good when it comes to DIY so Michael (Brownemi) came to my rescue again and performed the surgery on the 103R. I was of course very fortunate when i mounted the final product on the Thomas Schick arm that correct alignment allowed me to aligned the body with the front of the headshell. So thanks Duc for a very professional job, and Michael for taking the scalpel to the 103R. Not only am i happy with the look but the finished product also sounds great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemack Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 I really liked the look of the Ortofon LH8000 headshell, so when i was looking to mod a Denon 103R and mount it in one of Lovetube's wooden bodies I thought that they would make an excellent match. I handed over the headshell to Duc and let him pick the best match, which turned out to be this lovely snakeskin. Duc then had to make a special width body for me to match the width of the Ortofon headshell. I think he has done an amazing job not only matching the timbers but also in aligning it with the width of the headshell. A very professional finish. I am not very good when it comes to DIY so Michael (Brownemi) came to my rescue again and performed the surgery on the 103R. I was of course very fortunate when i mounted the final product on the Thomas Schick arm that correct alignment allowed me to aligned the body with the front of the headshell. So thanks Duc for a very professional job, and Michael for taking the scalpel to the 103R. Not only am i happy with the look but the finished product also sounds great. The man does lovely work! Cheers M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnA Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I really liked the look of the Ortofon LH8000 headshell, so when i was looking to mod a Denon 103R and mount it in one of Lovetube's wooden bodies I thought that they would make an excellent match. I handed over the headshell to Duc and let him pick the best match, which turned out to be this lovely snakeskin. Duc then had to make a special width body for me to match the width of the Ortofon headshell. I think he has done an amazing job not only matching the timbers but also in aligning it with the width of the headshell. A very professional finish. I am not very good when it comes to DIY so Michael (Brownemi) came to my rescue again and performed the surgery on the 103R. I was of course very fortunate when i mounted the final product on the Thomas Schick arm that correct alignment allowed me to aligned the body with the front of the headshell. So thanks Duc for a very professional job, and Michael for taking the scalpel to the 103R. Not only am i happy with the look but the finished product also sounds great. love the look of it thanks for sharing and glad to read you are happy with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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