cafe latte Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Wimbo said: I scored a Series 3 Twin back in 87. **** happened and I had to sell it early this millenium. Retiree now and don't have the Reddies for a new one. Few preamps measure even close to this good, been ages I have been curious how it sounds. Frequency response: flat from 20Hz to 20kHz, -1.25dB @ 100kHz Bass adjustment range: ±15dB at 20Hz; ±13dB at 75Hz Treble adjustment range: ±15dB at 20kHz; ±14dB at 10kHz Input impedance: 22kΩ Output impedance: 100Ω THD+N: <0.001%, 80kHz bandwidth; typically <0.0003%, 20kHz bandwidth Signal-to-noise ratio: -121dB with tone controls out; -114dB with tone controls in Channel separation: >80dB @ 1kHz; >67dB @ 10kHz Input separation: >98dB @ 1kHz; >80dB @ 10kHz Maximum gain: two times (6dB) Signal handling: up to 4V RMS input, 8V RMS output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhouston Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 12/12/2020 at 11:38 PM, dwbasement said: Haven't heard a MM for ages. MP500, it is one of the best MM I reckon. Went back to MMs about three or four years ago. In the main system Garrott P77i. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe latte Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 28 minutes ago, mwhouston said: Went back to MMs about three or four years ago. In the main system Garrott P77i. MP500 is not MM it is Moving iron. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimbo Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, cafe latte said: Few preamps measure even close to this good, been ages I have been curious how it sounds. Frequency response: flat from 20Hz to 20kHz, -1.25dB @ 100kHz Bass adjustment range: ±15dB at 20Hz; ±13dB at 75Hz Treble adjustment range: ±15dB at 20kHz; ±14dB at 10kHz Input impedance: 22kΩ Output impedance: 100Ω THD+N: <0.001%, 80kHz bandwidth; typically <0.0003%, 20kHz bandwidth Signal-to-noise ratio: -121dB with tone controls out; -114dB with tone controls in Channel separation: >80dB @ 1kHz; >67dB @ 10kHz Input separation: >98dB @ 1kHz; >80dB @ 10kHz Maximum gain: two times (6dB) Signal handling: up to 4V RMS input, 8V RMS output It's not the specs mate, it's the sound. From memory, fully star earthed and boards made in Switzerland as they could'nt get anyone in the UK to do the job. (back in the 80's) Also, even though they were prone to faults, the original volume pots helped things a lot as well. Never heard a preamp like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe latte Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Wimbo said: It's not the specs mate, it's the sound. From memory, fully star earthed and boards made in Switzerland as they could'nt get anyone in the UK to do the job. (back in the 80's) Also, even though they were prone to faults, the original volume pots helped things a lot as well. Never heard a preamp like it. Me neither which is why I rebuilt mine the pots are alps which alps as good as it gets. The circuit I linked though cant measure that good and be crap IMO. It is 68 bucks I am too curious thinking to build one for giggles, jst need to pick a phono board. The DNM is serious and listening to it now never want to be without it but curious too. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 11 hours ago, cafe latte said: Me neither which is why I rebuilt mine the pots are alps which alps as good as it gets. The circuit I linked though cant measure that good and be crap IMO. It is 68 bucks I am too curious thinking to build one for giggles, jst need to pick a phono board. I note it has tone controls. When you build it, there's a nearby thread here you might visit I don't have access to the article it comes from, but do you know what opamps and what type of circuit it employs? I mean, it can't be a run of the mill opamp preamp if the specs are so much better than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe latte Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, aussievintage said: I note it has tone controls. When you build it, there's a nearby thread here you might visit I don't have access to the article it comes from, but do you know what opamps and what type of circuit it employs? I mean, it can't be a run of the mill opamp preamp if the specs are so much better than expected. I will see if I can find the article when I get home. CHeers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles hidalgo Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) Softone Model4 http://softone.a.la9.jp/english/Model4/m4-1.htm Plinius Jarrah Edited February 1, 2021 by charles hidalgo 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Piezo GM500/empire MC5 finally in the house running on sp10mk2 and audio technica at-1010 sounds truly spectacular. Just retipped with boron cantilever W microridge Stylus. Initial impression sounds like the dynavector 17d2 will have to be put on the bench. Sounds dynamic top to bottom. I even have to check that the sub is not on because the cartridge have noticeably better low end grunt and detail. And this is with just tracking just 1 gram this has been an unexpected and pleasant surprise finding such a rare cartridge 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe latte Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I want one, it does things that few carts do I would love more info on this cart. It is clearly not a benz ownership if company aside it is way better. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoz Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 @mloutfie Boron and micro-ridge....truly a winning combination! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, stevoz said: @mloutfie Boron and micro-ridge....truly a winning combination! agree... just took a snap of the stylus. This cartridge remind me of a lyra cartridge I used to have which uses boron cantilever and micro ridge. I think boron have this immediateness to the sound instrument seems to jump at you more first is lyra second is the new cartridge Edited February 4, 2021 by mloutfie 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe latte Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, mloutfie said: agree... just took a snap of the stylus. This cartridge remind me of a lyra cartridge I used to have which uses boron cantilever and micro ridge. I think boron have this immediateness to the sound instrument seems to jump at you more first is lyra second is the new cartridge My thoughts of it were very free, not constrained at all very very open with amazing detail. It was very shocking to hear what it was doing so amazingly and at 1g!! I had never heard of this cart before, it is really a sleeper IMO. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) Out with the existing and in with the new. I have enjoyed my RCM Sensor Prelude so much over the last couple of years, it even saw off a Tron 7 that I sold because I preferred the Prelude. Anyway I have just upgraded to a new Sensor Mk2. Looking forward to plugging it in tomorrow. cheers, Terry Edited February 5, 2021 by TerryO 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 On 03/02/2021 at 10:18 PM, mloutfie said: Piezo GM500/empire MC5 finally in the house running on sp10mk2 and audio technica at-1010 sounds truly spectacular. Just retipped with boron cantilever W microridge Stylus. Initial impression sounds like the dynavector 17d2 will have to be put on the bench. Sounds dynamic top to bottom. I even have to check that the sub is not on because the cartridge have noticeably better low end grunt and detail. And this is with just tracking just 1 gram this has been an unexpected and pleasant surprise finding such a rare cartridge Who did the retip? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, PKay said: Who did the retip? Our good man Chris @cafe latte 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, mloutfie said: Our good man Chris @cafe latte Thanks, it’s great to have someone in Australia that can do this type of work. My next retip will head up to Chris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Sure it doesn't have the resolution of a higher end phono stage but there is always something special with using a step up transformer and tube phono preamp #supex #haggermanCornett3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, mloutfie said: Sure it doesn't have the resolution of a higher end phono stage but there is always something special with using a step up transformer and tube phono preamp #supex #hagermanCornet3 But you have a Paris, Mahdie - which enables you to get the ideal loading for your cart! You prefer the SUT with your Cornet 3? (Incroyable!) Andy Edited February 26, 2021 by andyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, andyr said: But you have a Paris, Mahdie - which enables you to get the ideal loading for your cart! You prefer the SUT with your Cornet 3? (Incroyable!) Andy With a step up specifically designed by the same manufacturer for the exact cartridge. At the moment I would say yes. But a non exact to spec transformer to some other cartridge Paris would win hands down Edited February 26, 2021 by mloutfie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steever Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Humble Elys40 MM. it actually sounds better than I thought it would. I still see a DV MC happening sooner rather than later though. and speaking of Dynavector, here’s my new P75 sitting below my Cyrus pre. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 I thought I would bring out the Pioneer HZ-1 head amp and have a play http://www.thevintageknob.org/pioneer-H-Z1.html 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, metal beat said: I thought I would bring out the Pioneer HZ-1 head amp and have a play http://www.thevintageknob.org/pioneer-H-Z1.html Very noice, Shane. Not that many options in terms of loading but why don't you try whichever Ortofon you have mounted and see how you like 470 ohms vs. the 100 ohms you previously said was the right loading? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steever Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) A couple of weeks ago or so, there were a number of very nice carts for sale on the forums here - a DV 20x2L, a couple of DV XX2s and a Rega Ania Pro. the 20x2L had been on my buying list and would have been a great match with my DV phono stage but I picked the Rega because it came up first and was BNIB. I’m very happy with the Rega and it would have been impossible to end up with a dud with what’s been available recently. Edited April 5, 2021 by Winno 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Ortofon Rondo Red, bought it on SNA. Seems pretty good for my first cart. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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