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Sugden Connoisseur turntable refurbishment

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Hi everyone, just want to share the results of this this TT that I've been working on. Got myself this Sugden Connoisseur BD1 and it was in pretty shabby condition. 

 

The plinth was weather faded, belt was very loose and slipping. Tonearm looked to be in decent shape, but the stylus was pretty worn down. I'm not much of a vinyl listener (oops, am I allowed to say that on this section of the forums?) but loved the aesthetic of the table and read that the tonearm was a pretty decent one so decided to overhaul it. Time to get to work! 

 

First off the stripped everything off to get to the plinth. A bit of a quick sand and some restor-a-finish brought it up to a nice even finish. In my excitement to get to work forgot to take all that many 'before' pics. The lid wasn't too shabby although it was covered in grease and muck, nothing some detergent didn't fix up. 

 

The original power cable was flimsy and had 2 pronged US style connections so those had to go. The rca plugs connect to a 5 pin DIN under the tonearm and I could not find a replacement online for a reasonable price, and the plugs were pretty beat up so I just replaced the rca plugs with nice solid amphenol plugs. A little spade for the ground wire and voila good as new! Had the sparkies at work check my power cable replacement but it was a straight forward exercise. 

 

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The belt was slipping off as it was really loose and also was sitting too high and proud so that wasn't helping. I got someone who knew what they were doing to look at it and he managed to get the pulley sitting correctly and not pulling inwards, towards the platter when the belt was on. Belt was also replaced but had to be stretched out until the speed was right. Quite a finicky process of trial and error!

 

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Stylus was replaced with a nice ADC. Everything is running well and I'm enjoying listening to my records after the hard work! 

 

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Also put some new feet on

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My new plugs and cable! 

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A very rewarding process, and putting on a  record and looking at the turntable now gives me great joy! 

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Very nice...my first TT was a BD101 + Goldring G800 cart...

 

Tase.

 

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My Dad had a BD1 years ago. It was very nice but I can't remember what tonearm it had. I do remember it had a Supex cartridge and it sounded great.

 

Yours appears to have a Grace G840 tonearm.....and yes, it is a great tonearm. The headshell is the Grace HS-4.

                                        

                                                    G-840

http://20cheaddatebase.web.fc2.com/needie/NDGRACE/G-840.jpg

 

■ Price 14,500 yen ■ Model Static balance type ■ Full length                                                                                                      

■ Execution length 237㎜

 

■ Over hang 15㎜
■ Tracking error
■ Stylus pressure range
■ Arm height adjustment
■ Arm base hole ■ Anti skate device
■ Arm lifter
■ Lateral balancer
■ Cartridge weight
■ Line capacity
■ Launched around 1970 ■ Discontinued Around 1971-72 ■ Remarks The price is around 1970. This is the brand's first lightweight universal arm.

 

                                                                                                                           HS-4

 

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       ■ Price 1,600 yen ■ Weight 7g
■ Remarks Aluminum press processing

The price is around 1973.
The price around 1975 is 1,850 yen.

 

 

If you can obtain a Grace F8 cart for it, this set up will sing!👌

 

Great job on the turntable......enjoy the music! 👍
 

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It looks like a very nice restoration - well done! It's always good to hear of another turntable saved from a premature death.  Enjoy listening to your records.

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22 minutes ago, stevoz said:

If you can obtain a Grace F8 cart for it, this set up will sing!👌

 

Great job on the turntable......enjoy the music! 👍
 

Thanks for the info steve, will keep an eye out for that cart...for now enjoying spinning my records.

 

May have stretched the belt a little too much in the process of trying to get the speed right, oooops. Now plays at about 32.5 rpm so slightly annoying.

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From this weekend, completed a little shelf for my 'now playing' records.

 

Sitting atop my diy stand + storage shelf

 

Merry christmas everyone and happy spinning

 

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18 minutes ago, spamnoj said:

Thanks for the info steve, will keep an eye out for that cart...for now enjoying spinning my records.

 

May have stretched the belt a little too much in the process of trying to get the speed right, oooops. Now plays at about 32.5 rpm so slightly annoying.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TURNTABLE-DRIVE-BELT-for-CONNOISSEUR-BD1-BD2-BD-1-BD-2-BD2-A-BD2-AR-PRB-OA32-2/112543870223?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57928%26meid%3D412bac25825e4f8ab09ab66796b1a2e2%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D282554785024%26itm%3D112543870223%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

 

$24. 👍

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22 hours ago, spamnoj said:

Thanks for the info steve, will keep an eye out for that cart...for now enjoying spinning my records.

 

May have stretched the belt a little too much in the process of trying to get the speed right, oooops. Now plays at about 32.5 rpm so slightly annoying.

Haven't read the whole post, if you are using your phone to check the speed of rotational they are not really accurate

A strope disc is better 

If the "dots are moving and you time their motion you can work out the true rpm 

The frequency of our mains supply is rock solid. It has to be without going into why. 

Makes me wonder what the advantage of DC is other than starting torque 

 

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