Snoopy8 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Uptone Audio have released an Ethernet switch specifically designed for the audio market. Useful Links: EtherRegen product information EtherREGEN User Guide Uptone Audio Sponsored Forum which has threads on listening impressions, installation and questions, development thread, cable and power tweaking and firmware. Some links to actual listener impressions here. Some information summarising user impressions and findings about DACs and streamers. Reviews : Hans Beekhuyzen video review, Stereo Times, AudiophileStyle Please keep this thread for posts from owners and potential owners. If you wish to debate whether this product works as intended or not, this thread is NOT for you. Suggest posting on this Great Audio Debate thread: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/293706-uptone-audio-etherregen-game-changer-or-hype/ (removed, not everyone has access to thread) Ethernet switches for audio - Part B: why a regular switch will suffice Will do my best to monitor this thread and will request moderators to shift controversial posts that are intended to inflame debate to that other thread (which I hope can remain open). I have purchased one with the intention to try it. If it does not improve my setup based on what I hear, I will take advantage of the 30 day money back guarantee. Will post my impressions after I listen to it for an extended period. My impressions here (am keeping it!). Impact of using a LPSU here. This is a typical setup (from user manual). Details of the connectors To keep this thread focused on the product, am suggesting that all discussions on Ethernet cables be posted here https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/298328-ethernet-cables- uptone-audio-etherregen-only/ Not using an expensive "uber" Ethernet cable, reviewed here. Also note that contrary to what the manual says, shielded Ethernet cables with metal ends may reduce sound quality. Try cables with plastic plugs. Full disclosure: not associated with Uptone Audio nor its dealers and do not participate in the Uptone forum. Purchased the ER from AfterDark in Hong Kong. Edited June 19, 2020 by Snoopy8 Added diagrams, updated, added links, user impressions, reviews, full disclosure, metal ended cables 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scumbag Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Tracking is showing that mine has arrived in Sydney. I go on leave on the 19th. Now that is in the hands of Australia Post, there is no telling how long it will take to get to me. I'm starting to think it won't be until the New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andresz Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 You will get it by Wed/Thurs. I was in the November batch and tracked it closely. You will be very surprised at what the ER does. I have it in a high end rig for HT and HIFI for streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awayward Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, andresz said: You will get it by Wed/Thurs. I was in the November batch and tracked it closely. You will be very surprised at what the ER does. I have it in a high end rig for HT and HIFI for streaming. Great to read you have had a positive experience, looking forward to mine arriving in the January batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 Mine arrived today (yes, Saturday!) after being shipped by AfterDark HK on Wednesday! Amazing performance by HK Post, arrived in Melbourne on Thursday, and kudos to Australia Post for doing their bit as well. Based on what I read on the Uptone forum, am doing a 24 hour burn in before I listen tomorrow and over several days. Unit does get hot, but am using a passive CPU cooler to keep it neutral to touch. 1 hour ago, andresz said: You will get it by Wed/Thurs. I was in the November batch and tracked it closely. You will be very surprised at what the ER does. I have it in a high end rig for HT and HIFI for streaming. Oh! I did not realise someone here managed to pull that off! Please post more of your setup and listening impressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereophilus Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I’m looking forward to reading about people’s impressions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 Please @scumbag, you posted a thread about people spoiling the other EtherRegrn thread, yet you are trying to do the same thing here! I started this thread to take a positive note... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Current scenario I have; nbn, router, switch with ifi power. From there three long Ethernet cables to naim unitilite, ndx and oppo 105d. How would this device be used in current setup, I see only one output and multiple inputs. Neo Edited December 14, 2019 by Neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Neo said: Current scenario I have; nbn, router, switch with ifi power. From there three long Ethernet cables to naim unitilite, ndx and oppo 105d. How would this device be used in current setup, I see only one output and multiple inputs. Neo The B side of the EtherRegen is meant to connect to the DAC of your system. Which of your 3 devices is your main DAC? This device will be the main beneficiary. Connect the rest of the devices to A side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Snoopy8 said: The B side of the EtherRegen is meant to connect to the DAC of your system. Which of your 3 devices is your main DAC? This device will be the main beneficiary. Connect the rest of the devices to A side. Abit confused which dac support Ethernet as a source? i suspect I will need three of these to get the benefit Neo Edited December 14, 2019 by Neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Neo said: Abit confused which dac support Ethernet as a source? i suspect I will need three of these to get the benefit Sorry, should have been better with my reply. The B side should be connected to the last device which feeds the DAC & speakers. So, if your DAC does not have an Ethernet port, then it will be to the streamer which drives your DAC. Edited December 14, 2019 by Snoopy8 Added diagram from manual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Thank you for clarifying, the naim ndx it is then. Pity I has only one output. Neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbastin Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 14/12/2019 at 8:06 PM, Neo said: Pity I has only one output. As I understand, it can be used either direction. You could approach it as simply A and B sides being isolated from one another, and choose which is the 'dirty' side. For instance, all your low noise audio gear could be on Side A with the 'noisy' outside world connecting to Side B - if you need more ports on Side B (eg. PC, NAS), put another cheap switch between those and Side B. I recall the ports on Side A have some isolation from one another, just not a Moat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, dbastin said: As I understand, it can be used either direction. You could approach it as simply A and B sides being isolated from one another, and choose which is the 'dirty' side. For instance, all your low noise audio gear could be on Side A with the 'noisy' outside world connecting to Side B - if you need more ports on Side B (eg. PC, NAS), put another cheap switch between those and Side B. I recall the ports on Side A have some isolation from one another, just not a Moat. Yes, all the 4 ports on the A side can be used as the outputs, but there is a chance that the devices on the A side will re-introduce noise. Hence, may not get as much benefit using the EtherREGEN this way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanMedia Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Listening to mine right now. Yes definitely different to my old Apple AirPort Extreme Router. It’s changing through burn in so I won’t start tweaking until it settles. First Impressions are that it feels like the midrange is very forward and clear. Lowest bass is a bit recessed and upper treble is a bit harsh and metallic. These are the exact sort of things which mellow with burn in, so let’s give it a few more days. Overall its a positive improvement assuming the treble mellows. Great sense of space. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbastin Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 14/12/2019 at 10:58 AM, Snoopy8 said: Great Audio Debate thread: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/293706-uptone-audio-etherregen-game-changer-or-hype/ Sorry, this is a bit off topic ... but I cant fund the abice thread anymore. Has it been completely removed? Im only wondering because it got to discussing ethernet cables, I asked a question, and would like go contact the member I directed the question to via PM instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon N' Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, dbastin said: Sorry, this is a bit off topic ... but I cant fund the abice thread anymore. Has it been completely removed? Im only wondering because it got to discussing ethernet cables, I asked a question, and would like go contact the member I directed the question to via PM instead. Just click on that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 hours ago, dbastin said: Sorry, this is a bit off topic ... but I cant fund the abice thread anymore. Has it been completely removed? Im only wondering because it got to discussing ethernet cables, I asked a question, and would like go contact the member I directed the question to via PM instead. It seems that threads in the Great Audio Debate are now restricted to members who have been here for a while. It appears to be something newly implemented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbastin Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Well ... I dont have permission! There was a member on the last pages who had been testing ethernet cables and is now using shunyata ... if someone still has access, I'd love to get in touch with that member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanMedia Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) FYI this is a recommended low budget ethernet cable for the single B-side output from the UpTone threads. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NVS8BF5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ&psc=1 Edited December 17, 2019 by HumanMedia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awayward Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, HumanMedia said: FYI this is a recommended low budget ethernet cable for the single B-side output from the UpTone threads. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NVS8BF5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ&psc=1 Just to clarify as I read it, recommended by an owner after testing various cables, not essentially recommended by UpTone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanMedia Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, awayward said: Just to clarify as I read it, recommended by an owner after testing various cables, not essentially recommended by UpTone. Yes, by an owner. UpTone stay out of ethernet recommendations, except in the long past, when they unofficially suggested the Blue Jeans Cat6a. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewantsmoore Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, HumanMedia said: Blue Jeans Cat6a. This is what I would tend towards.... for the simple reason that I am interested in something which will I am sure passes a high category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I'd recommend this for an ethernet cable: https://www.amazon.com.au/Monoprice-Cat8-Ethernet-Cables-131115/dp/B07G9XYWVF/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanMedia Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, davewantsmoore said: This is what I would tend towards.... for the simple reason that I am interested in something which will I am sure passes a high category. That’s where the guy who compared and rates the cables started, and there are a handful of similarly priced cables that he rates as sounding better. Also note the ER output B side is only 100mbps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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