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34 minutes ago, April Snow said:

And look - his white cabinet at the start like MINE !!

You guys sure mine is wrong????????

His long shelf is vertical too !!!

 

 

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I really don't think it's going to matter on your 2x2. Changing it might be more hassle than it's worth. IKEA aren't made to be dismantled.

Maybe just something to remember when you get a bigger one.

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Welcome to club Kallax 😀. Won't matter much for your 2x2 unit but best practice is to have your unit flipped 90 degrees so that the long divider shelf is horizontal (yours is vertical) as that provide

Not a big deal to have the 4 x 2 on it's side. I have added a hard wood top, from Bunning's, to mine, after the original top got marked and damaged quite easily.      

Thought I would update this thread with something I found on Etsy here in Australia.   This person is in Melbourne and ships around Australia and designs really cool record storage items.

1 minute ago, eman said:

I really don't think it's going to matter on your 2x2. Changing it might be more hassle than it's worth. IKEA aren't made to be dismantled.

Maybe just something to remember when you get a bigger one.

I dunno, but I am OCD so it will worry me - I have it in the car now, the guys can look at it tomorrow a small bit of ally angle might be worth putting in the corners instead just to brace it who knows, although the boss says the top and sides should come off easy enough and the centre only needs turning around - hopefully..............

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Now put a block of ply wood in every cube wide enough to bring the records more forward. 

 

They are too deep when standard and the records sit back to far in the cubes - imo

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2 hours ago, April Snow said:

I dunno, but I am OCD so it will worry me - I have it in the car now, the guys can look at it tomorrow a small bit of ally angle might be worth putting in the corners instead just to brace it who knows, although the boss says the top and sides should come off easy enough and the centre only needs turning around - hopefully..............


You really don’t need to worry.. I’ve got a 2x2 filled to the brim with records with a 60kg power amp sitting on the top of it.

 

you’re good, you really are. They are really tough.

 

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9 hours ago, metal beat said:

Now put a block of ply wood in every cube wide enough to bring the records more forward. 

 

They are too deep when standard and the records sit back to far in the cubes - imo

Yes they are I agree, I saw this idea too that he says lessens the gap at the back and also can offer some stregthening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl0dPTrhxRM

 

And I just saw in the comments some people use the pool noodles at the back - easy to cut and much softer than wood - that is a pretty cool idea too, and so cheap

 

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10 hours ago, TDK said:


You really don’t need to worry.. I’ve got a 2x2 filled to the brim with records with a 60kg power amp sitting on the top of it.

 

 

I'm assuming, TDK, that with a 60kg power amp on the top, your Kallax is oriented correctly - ie. the side verticals sit in between the top and bottom parts of the outside frame?  :)

 

Andy

 

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22 hours ago, Tubularbells said:

Welcome to club Kallax 😀. Won't matter much for your 2x2 unit but best practice is to have your unit flipped 90 degrees so that the long divider shelf is horizontal (yours is vertical) as that provides better support. There have been some horror stories in the past about collapsing shelves on large units having the same arrangement as yours.

 

Another good tip is to pop into Bunnings and get one of the guys to cut a piece of 60mm x 40mm timber into 330mm lengths and place at the back of the shelves. That wa all your records remain perfectly aligned and dont get pushed in when making a selection.

 

Like this....

 

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If SNA had an "Advice of the Week" award, this would get my vote.

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Having said that, though, I imagine it's only an issue for units over 3 shelves high. My 5x5 is set up correctly, but, much like @08Boss302 I have a 3x4 I've laid on its side for layout reasons so the long pieces are vertical. So far, no dramas.

 

My advice:

- Check the bolts are tight once a year or so

- If you get a bigger unit (4x4 or 5x5) secure it firmly to the wall. One of those loaded with vinyl could do some serious damage if it fell on you

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3 hours ago, twofires said:

If SNA had an "Advice of the Week" award, this would get my vote.

Me too, although I like the idea of the Pool Noodles cut to size as well, because when you push a record back in, you are unlikely to damage the edges of the LP Jacket by mistake as they are softer? I am going to go and get some white ones 🙂

 

 

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22 hours ago, 08Boss302 said:

I store my stuff

* Alphabetical Order (Band)

* Chronological Release Order

All STD 12" Vinyl in that order -

BoxSets and Picture Discs in separate unit

 

I've actually also got my phono stages, DAC and BlueSound in mine with the Kallax specific glass shelving and some draws for bluray too.

I got some MDF and fastened that to the back of the units too, provides a bit more structural stability but also stopped vinyl etc rubbing on the wall or pushing through.

 

 

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Nice...........I also store whiskey, rum and rye on top of mine in case I get the urge.....:thumb:

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5 hours ago, andyr said:

 

I'm assuming, TDK, that with a 60kg power amp on the top, your Kallax is oriented correctly - ie. the side verticals sit in between the top and bottom parts of the outside frame?  :)

 

Andy

 

 

Nope, and that was my point. A 2x2 is plenty tough enough.

 

It's the sideways swaying that makes them topple not the weight on top.

 

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1 hour ago, TDK said:

 

Nope, and that was my point. A 2x2 is plenty tough enough.

 

It's the sideways swaying that makes them topple not the weight on top.

 

 

Perhaps, TDK - but we obviously have radically different views of the world.  :lol:

 

Leaving aside 'RTFM' before you build anything - which I  most certainly do - especially with a 2x2, 3x3, 4x4 and 5x5 (when there is no difference between width & height) ... it seems bizarre to me that someone would deliberately choose not to orient the bookshelf, the strongest way round?  (Which is with the top - and therefore the bottom - resting on the sides of the frame.)

 

Andy

 

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2 hours ago, Mendes said:

Nice...........I also store whiskey, rum and rye on top of mine in case I get the urge.....:thumb:

Hahahahahaha - the difference between the sexes - mine has scented candles on the top, the liqueur I keep in the cupboard to make my Fluffy Ducks !!

 

🤣🤣

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3 hours ago, andyr said:

 

Perhaps, TDK - but we obviously have radically different views of the world.  :lol:

 

Leaving aside 'RTFM' before you build anything - which I  most certainly do - especially with a 2x2, 3x3, 4x4 and 5x5 (when there is no difference between width & height) ... it seems bizarre to me that someone would deliberately choose not to orient the bookshelf, the strongest way round?  (Which is with the top - and therefore the bottom - resting on the sides of the frame.)

 

Andy

 

 

I'm just sticking it to the man.

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15 hours ago, andyr said:

 

Que??

 

Andy

 

 

Buying Ikea is already about as institutionalized and Orwellian as you can get (walking around, following the arrows like a drone on Saturday morning to buy your flatpacks and cheap glasses).

 

My rebellious streak told me not follow their instructions. Oh and I walked in the opposite direction to the arrows as well.

 

And I didn't eat their meatballs.

 

Stickin' it to the man.

 

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10 minutes ago, TDK said:

 

Buying Ikea is already about as institutionalized and Orwellian as you can get (walking around, following the arrows like a drone on Saturday morning to buy your flatpacks and cheap glasses).

 

My rebellious streak told me not follow their instructions. Oh and I walked in the opposite direction to the arrows as well.

 

And I didn't eat their meatballs.

 

Stickin' it to the man.

 

 

Aah so des ka.  :thumb:

 

And in terms of your 'rebellious streak' ... it seems to me that you possibly:

  • ride a bike with your helmet on ... but with the chin-strap not done up?
  • drive a car with the seatbelt just looped across your shoulder ... but not fixed?  :lol:

 

Me ... I'm just beige conformity, all the way through.  :)

 

Andy

 

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28 minutes ago, andyr said:

 

Aah so des ka.  :thumb:

 

And in terms of your 'rebellious streak' ... it seems to me that you possibly:

  • ride a bike with your helmet on ... but with the chin-strap not done up?
  • drive a car with the seatbelt just looped across your shoulder ... but not fixed?  :lol:

 

Me ... I'm just beige conformity, all the way through.  :)

 

Andy

 

 

LOL no. I'd be the guy riding a bike with a helmet on in a "no helmet rally". Or the guy eating a steak sandwich in a vegan rally. Or the guy going to a strip club on international womens day.

 

I'm rebellious to mainstream herd thinking, not stupid.

 

And no I'm not going to Bali for my Christmas holidays either.

 

What does this have to do with Ikea furniture? Not a lot, but you asked :)

 

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26 minutes ago, TDK said:

 

LOL no. I'd be the guy riding a bike with a helmet on in a "no helmet rally". Or the guy eating a steak sandwich in a vegan rally. Or the guy going to a strip club on international womens day.

 

I'm rebellious to mainstream herd thinking, not stupid.

 

And no I'm not going to Bali for my Christmas holidays either.

 

What does this have to do with Ikea furniture? Not a lot, but you asked :)

 

 

:thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

 

Andy

 

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I picked up a pair of these 2x4s for $20 a few weeks ago off local gumtree. Organising mostly by genre with some outlier categories; L to R it goes [New acquisitions to be cleaned -- cleaned to listen and sort]
[Record shaped objects/soundtracks/non-music records like bush poetry -- 7" singles/Stuff I'll never listen to]
[Reggae and Dub -- Country]
[Everything else]

Within that I just keep the same artists or related artists next to each other. Nowhere near as impressive as some of the pictures in this thread but much better than the previous solution of having them in cardboard boxes on the flimsy bunning shelf at the side of the picture.

 

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26 minutes ago, SkipEsquire said:

I picked up a pair of these 2x4s for $20 a few weeks ago off local gumtree. Organising mostly by genre with some outlier categories; L to R it goes [New acquisitions to be cleaned -- cleaned to listen and sort]
[Record shaped objects/soundtracks/non-music records like bush poetry -- 7" singles/Stuff I'll never listen to]
[Reggae and Dub -- Country]
[Everything else]

Within that I just keep the same artists or related artists next to each other. Nowhere near as impressive as some of the pictures in this thread but much better than the previous solution of having them in cardboard boxes on the flimsy bunning shelf at the side of the picture.

 

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Except that you have it oriented the wrong way round - if you are interested in the strength of the unit. :(

 

Andy

 

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19 minutes ago, andyr said:

 

Except that you have it oriented the wrong way round - if you are interested in the strength of the unit. :(

 

Andy

 

The shelf orientation only really matters when the Kallax is square.

 

If you think of the sides as a lever, and the weight on the top shelf being the force on that lever (when it is rocked), a non-square Kallax is always more precarious upright than on its side, because the longer the upright side the less force required to bend the unit out of shape. This is why the Kallax long shelves connect the longer sides rather than run parallel to them - they reduce lateral weakness if the shelf is upright in its weaker orientation. 

 

When the shelf is square, however, and both orientations are equally weak, the long shelves should run horizontal.

 

IMO, a 2x4 Kallax on its side will always be more stable than upright. The same might not be true of a very large non-square unit like a 5x4, but I imagine that's why Ikea doesn't actually make those. The largest non-square unit they make is the 4x3. 

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2 hours ago, twofires said:

The shelf orientation only really matters when the Kallax is square.

 

If you think of the sides as a lever, and the weight on the top shelf being the force on that lever (when it is rocked), a non-square Kallax is always more precarious upright than on its side, because the longer the upright side the less force required to bend the unit out of shape. This is why the Kallax long shelves connect the longer sides rather than run parallel to them - they reduce lateral weakness if the shelf is upright in its weaker orientation. 

 

When the shelf is square, however, and both orientations are equally weak, the long shelves should run horizontal.

 

IMO, a 2x4 Kallax on its side will always be more stable than upright. The same might not be true of a very large non-square unit like a 5x4, but I imagine that's why Ikea doesn't actually make those. The largest non-square unit they make is the 4x3. 

 

You and me seem to be looking at different things when it comes to the 'strength' of a Kallax unit, twofires.

 

In your orientation whilst, yes, the whole unit is more stable on its side (as you have it) ... the only thing supporting the ends of the top of the frame ... are the 2 dowels at each end.  You put a 60kg amp on top (in place of your light TT) - like one other poster has done - and 2 dowels under such a heavy weight is not something I would care to risk.  Whereas if the top of the frame was resting on top of the sides of the frame - this would have structural strength.

 

Likewise, the weight of the LPs in each 'hole' is supported by 2 dowels at each end of each shelf - not a good idea, IMO.

 

Andy

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Some good points already raised here, the internal shelving running the correct way is a big one if you have the larger units.

 

I cut up pool noodles to place at the back of each cube. It keeps the spines closer to the front of the unit and nice and near when you re-file records.

 

I have always categorised by genre, and then alphabetically within genre. 

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The outer frame is not held together with 2 dowels at each end! In fact, there are four long coach screws at each end, so no problems holding the weight. Each of the small shelves has 4 dowels at each end.

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8 hours ago, t_mike said:

The outer frame is not held together with 2 dowels at each end! In fact, there are four long coach screws at each end, so no problems holding the weight. Each of the small shelves has 4 dowels at each end.

Yeah, I was about to mention this. In addition, when a 2x4 is on its side, the three long shelves now stand vertical and provide support for the 'top' along its length.

 

The whole thing is quite a clever design really.

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I did consider the integrity of the shelves, obviously not as much as some other people, but I just don't want it to stand vertical so it is what it is. I also want to add some kind of backing like others have mentioned to stop the dust getting in from the wall side. I started collecting pieces of that thin MDF from the back of wardrobes/drawer units during council collection but didn't end up getting enough good pieces.

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49 minutes ago, SkipEsquire said:

I did consider the integrity of the shelves, obviously not as much as some other people, but I just don't want it to stand vertical so it is what it is. I also want to add some kind of backing like others have mentioned to stop the dust getting in from the wall side. I started collecting pieces of that thin MDF from the back of wardrobes/drawer units during council collection but didn't end up getting enough good pieces.

With the shelves being white, you could use corflute. Relatively cheap, and easy to work with. 

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Not a big deal to have the 4 x 2 on it's side. I have added a hard wood top, from Bunning's, to mine, after the original top got marked and damaged quite easily.

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Also have two 4 x 1 and one 4 x 5 plus a few IKEA cd towers. 

Keeping every thing tidy helps the collection to be more acceptable. 

 

You will also notice I gained control of all of the 4 x 2,  eventually 😊

 

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56 minutes ago, EV Cali said:

Not a big deal to have the 4 x 2 on it's side. I have added a hard wood top, from Bunning's, to mine, after the original top got marked and damaged quite easily.

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Also have two 4 x 1 and one 4 x 5 plus a few IKEA cd towers. 

Keeping every thing tidy helps the collection to be more acceptable. 

 

You will also notice I gained control of all of the 4 x 2,  eventually 😊

 

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That wooden top looks really beautiful on there - I love that - I put legs on mine to make it look less like a cube too. 

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19 hours ago, andyr said:

 

You and me seem to be looking at different things when it comes to the 'strength' of a Kallax unit, twofires.

 

In your orientation whilst, yes, the whole unit is more stable on its side (as you have it) ... the only thing supporting the ends of the top of the frame ... are the 2 dowels at each end.  You put a 60kg amp on top (in place of your light TT) - like one other poster has done - and 2 dowels under such a heavy weight is not something I would care to risk.  Whereas if the top of the frame was resting on top of the sides of the frame - this would have structural strength.

 

Likewise, the weight of the LPs in each 'hole' is supported by 2 dowels at each end of each shelf - not a good idea, IMO.

 

Andy

If not using free standing ie away from walls just fixing a strong 3 or 5 ply plywood back (generously nailed/screwed) will greatly increase the overall rigidity and prevent catastrophic sideway fails!

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