Lukeqc 6 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) There’s so much info to take in! I got a pair of B&W 607’s and the htm6 centre yesterday. Really keen to get an amp and get the system up and running. Can I pose a question to the gurus... I was going to go down the path of a ~$2k avr, and then look at the possibilities of a ~$1.5k power amp to use for stereo duties, utilising my existing Audiolab 6000a as a pre for stereo. Will a $3500 avr drive 2 channels (B&W 603) in stereo as well as the dedicated power amp and pre? Is there other options available? Is this a crack pot idea? Sorry for the lack of knowledge on avr’s as I haven’t had much experience with them. edit: The power amp I’m looking at is the March p502 P502 500 Watt Stereo Power Amplifier | March Audio WWW.MARCHAUDIO.NET.AU The P500 stereo power amplifier offers tremendous power output for the most... Edited November 27, 2019 by Lukeqc Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators betty boop 15,742 Posted November 27, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Lukeqc said: There’s so much info to take in! I got a pair of B&W 607’s and the htm6 centre yesterday. Really keen to get an amp and get the system up and running. Can I pose a question to the gurus... I was going to go down the path of a ~$2k avr, and then look at the possibilities of a ~$1.5k power amp to use for stereo duties, utilising my existing Audiolab 6000a as a pre for stereo. Will a $3500 avr drive 2 channels (B&W 603) in stereo as well as the dedicated power amp and pre? Is there other options available? Is this a crack pot idea? Sorry for the lack of knowledge on avr’s as I haven’t had much experience with them. edit: The power amp I’m looking at is the March p502 P502 500 Watt Stereo Power Amplifier | March Audio WWW.MARCHAUDIO.NET.AU The P500 stereo power amplifier offers tremendous power output for the most... to be honest ... grab a rotel power as the great match they make for B&W speakers. and they often come up affordably 2nd hand as well. and yes can run your audio lab as a pre no problem (presume it has a ht bypass) and yes the 7 series and suspect 6 series marantz will run these no problems. its the very cheap AVRs if buy dont come with pre outs and you are stuck ! Link to post Share on other sites
blakey72 1,375 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 This is very good value https://www.carltonaudiovisual.com.au/home-theatre/surround-receivers/marantx-sr5013-7-2-channel-atmos-receiver.html Link to post Share on other sites
cwt 995 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Another option if you want a small form factor [ it has a 2ch pre amp out if you want to boost its output with a rotel later on] and has the very latest audyssey editor app .. Marantz NR1710 Slim 7.2ch AV Receiver with HEOS Black | Klapp Audio Visual KLAPPAV.COM.AU 7.2 channel AV Receiver with 90W Dolby Atmos & DTS:X decoding Built-in HEOS Wireless Multi-Room Works With: Alexa / Google /... Link to post Share on other sites
Lukeqc 6 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 I have secured a sr7011. Thank you everybody. Can’t wait to test it out. Next step is to get 4 height speakers to make my system a 5.2.4. What are some good quality height speakers that don’t cost an arm and a leg? I’m going to hold off on the power amp and see if the 7011 has enough grunt to drive 2ch enough. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators betty boop 15,742 Posted November 28, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Lukeqc said: I have secured a sr7011. Thank you everybody. Can’t wait to test it out. Next step is to get 4 height speakers to make my system a 5.2.4. What are some good quality height speakers that don’t cost an arm and a leg? I’m going to hold off on the power amp and see if the 7011 has enough grunt to drive 2ch enough. great to hear on the 7011 re height speakers ... given the B&W speakers already have, id stick with same brand for your heights.... no real need to go off brand can get quite affordably priced https://www.radioparts.com.au/product/39818004/ Link to post Share on other sites
Lukeqc 6 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 I’ve been told that the linked speakers will do for the rears but I want a 20* directional speaker for the mid heights. Any perceivable difference? Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators betty boop 15,742 Posted November 28, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Lukeqc said: I’ve been told that the linked speakers will do for the rears but I want a 20* directional speaker for the mid heights. Any perceivable difference? no please dont be paying extra for angled speakers for atmos heights all these things can adjust tweeters angling them and work perfectly well for heights. you dont need angled speakers 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lukeqc 6 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 The SR7011 I had lined up was a 110V unit with a 240V sticker on the back. I don’t want a transformer adding clutter. Unfortunate. The hunt continues! Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators betty boop 15,742 Posted November 29, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Lukeqc said: The SR7011 I had lined up was a 110V unit with a 240V sticker on the back. I don’t want a transformer adding clutter. Unfortunate. The hunt continues! oh my goodness ! how dodgy is that ? who would stick a 240V sticker on a 110V unit ? crazy. and yes you 100% do not want to be running transformers with amps. last thing need a big transformer sitting there buzzing away in the room keep on look out... now is the time to get something to with the sales... surely a demo or run out unit hanging around even if newer than 7011 but last gen. ps the marantz alternative in denon is the 4300H Denon AVR-X4300H vs Marantz SR7011 Detailed Comparison WWW.ZKELECTRONICS.COM Read our detailed comparison of the Denon AVR-X4300H vs Marantz SR7011 to find out their common strengths and weaknesses, advantages and disadvantages, and decide which... Link to post Share on other sites
roachy 30 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I may have a Marantz 6013 up for grabs very shortly. Purchased from Klapp in March or April this year. Located in Melbourne Link to post Share on other sites
Braddles 63 438 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) @Lukeqc FWIW i have finally finished a similar journey to yours only i started at a $1K limit that over time with research stretched to $2k. I was on the look out for months for a good used unit as close to current as possible but i was either too slow, wouldn't ship to Perth or just not coming up for sale. So after going round and round and changing my mind a thousand times (The $2k - $2.5k range has so many similar offerings) i settled on the Marantz SR6014 which i got for $2k. Haven't got it yet as they were sold out but hopefully should be here next week. Edited November 30, 2019 by Braddles 63 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Lukeqc 6 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 I can get a sr5600 for real cheap. Is this worth it as an interim 5.1 system? Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators betty boop 15,742 Posted December 1, 2019 Moderators Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Lukeqc said: I can get a sr5600 for real cheap. Is this worth it as an interim 5.1 system? no harm ever in something to get by. just dont waste precious money in buying and selling if looking or waiting for run outs ? having waited so long best waiting for CES that is only a month or so away early jan thats when new models tend to release... can see what comes and then decide. be a month or so after that will land here. not aware of anything launches but if there are new model releases all models before will get run out people also tend to update themselves and makes opportunity to pick up some serious bargains. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lukeqc 6 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 7:08 PM, betty boop said: no harm ever in something to get by. just dont waste precious money in buying and selling Do you have any recommendations of a good performer that I’ll be able to pick up for ~$200 second hand? Ideally it would have an optical in, and I’ll run audio out of the tv to the amp. Cheap and cheerful but it will get me through to next year. Front stage pre outs would be good too, as I’ll drive my fronts through my existing 2ch amp. Link to post Share on other sites
Lukeqc 6 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 I have managed to pick up a Yamaha DSP-A1 for cheap and it’s seriously impressive for its age. A very capable amp. I have done a side by side test with my Audiolab 6000a and It’s really good. The Audiolab isn’t the best amp on the market, but I like the sound. I am enjoying the extra headroom the DSP-A1 has too. Still on the lookout for a late model Marantz but I have what I need until that comes up. I’m using the Audiolab as a pre for music. I am running optical into the DSP-A1 from the tv for surround sound duties. Link to post Share on other sites
Avinit 3 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 30/11/2019 at 9:55 AM, Braddles 63 said: @Lukeqc FWIW i have finally finished a similar journey to yours only i started at a $1K limit that over time with research stretched to $2k. I was on the look out for months for a good used unit as close to current as possible but i was either too slow, wouldn't ship to Perth or just not coming up for sale. So after going round and round and changing my mind a thousand times (The $2k - $2.5k range has so many similar offerings) i settled on the Marantz SR6014 which i got for $2k. Haven't got it yet as they were sold out but hopefully should be here next week. How are you finding it? I've heard it runs really hot on top and needs to be out in the open and not in an entertainment unit? (which is where mine would be) Link to post Share on other sites
Lukeqc 6 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Keep an eye out on eBay. I just got an open box sr7013 for just over $2k. Seemed too good to be true but I rolled the dice and It worked out. Edited January 13, 2020 by Lukeqc Link to post Share on other sites
hopefullguy 396 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 what size "entertainment unit" are you thinking of placing the avr in? Link to post Share on other sites
Avinit 3 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 10 hours ago, hopefullguy said: what size "entertainment unit" are you thinking of placing the avr in? The 'slot' its going into is about 17.2cm high, 50cm wide and 50cm deep. Its a tight fit so it will fit in it, but worried about heat. Link to post Share on other sites
hopefullguy 396 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) hmm in a word... crazy. unless you add fans for cooling and heat extraction but you have too little space. you need to decide is a $2000 avr more important than a entertainment unit... modify it. Edited January 14, 2020 by hopefullguy Link to post Share on other sites
Braddles 63 438 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 08/01/2020 at 7:32 AM, Avinit said: How are you finding it? I've heard it runs really hot on top and needs to be out in the open and not in an entertainment unit? (which is where mine would be) Liking it so far. Only complaint so far is the port hole display is good for nothing unless you want to get up every time you want it to see what setting its on. Yes runs hot. I have a separate amp running the mains but made no difference to the temp it runs at. I have mine on top of the unit and after feeling how hot it runs can would enclose it without lots of room to spare and plenty of ventilation. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxPlumage 101 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Braddles 63 said: Liking it so far. Only complaint so far is the port hole display is good for nothing unless you want to get up every time you want it to see what setting its on. Yes runs hot. I have a separate amp running the mains but made no difference to the temp it runs at. I have mine on top of the unit and after feeling how hot it runs can would enclose it without lots of room to spare and plenty of ventilation. Maybe stick a small round fresnel lens on the port It's recessed enough inside that the lens will further magnify the display. https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32234292310.html?pid=808_0000_0131&spm=a2g0n.search-amp.list.32234292310&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=2245wrCfshWzUWUUG8L0EsUAQiCD4RumsedACvSVARSDQvs-UTCRqFwe3XoC3R5iE_VP1578990058285&browser_id=3adad7d06dc54ed8b08c2c2843071ef1&is_c=Y Link to post Share on other sites
Avinit 3 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 14/01/2020 at 5:42 PM, hopefullguy said: hmm in a word... crazy. unless you add fans for cooling and heat extraction but you have too little space. you need to decide is a $2000 avr more important than a entertainment unit... modify it. This is true. Might just chuck it on top for now. Link to post Share on other sites
blakey72 1,375 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 For $1299 this is a very good performer. I got one at this price and I'm really happy with it. I'm very fussy too. Loads of power and even decent at 2 channel. Sorry, just saying again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NoS9 12 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 01/02/2020 at 4:29 PM, blakey72 said: For $1299 this is a very good performer. I got one at this price and I'm really happy with it. I'm very fussy too. Loads of power and even decent at 2 channel. Sorry, just saying again. Hey - silly question - The SR5013 supports HDR the new mode SR5014 supports HDR10 - Do you reckon with a firmware upgrade to the 5013 it will support HDR10? Is this possible? Does it matter? .. I am in the process of collecting 4K & Atmos - hence why I am reading this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
bizzibee 46 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, NoS9 said: Hey - silly question - The SR5013 supports HDR the new mode SR5014 supports HDR10 - Do you reckon with a firmware upgrade to the 5013 it will support HDR10? Is this possible? Does it matter? .. I am in the process of collecting 4K & Atmos - hence why I am reading this thread. https://marantz-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4725/~/hdr-format-compatibility Note no mention of SR 5013 as it supported HDR10 out of the box when new. https://www.us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AVReceivers&SubCatId=0&ProductId=SR5013 Look under HDMI in the Specification section in above link. https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/marantz-sr5014/usa/marantz-sr5013/usa/ Edited February 10, 2020 by bizzibee Link to post Share on other sites
NoS9 12 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) Thanks....So - that's a yes then? Edited February 10, 2020 by NoS9 Link to post Share on other sites
bizzibee 46 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 hours ago, NoS9 said: Thanks....So - that's a yes then? Yes it supported it when the SR-5013 was originally released (out of the box) without the need of a firmware update. The previous SR-5010, SR-5011 & SR-5012 models supported it when a firmware update as was released on 30/01/2017 as detailed here: https://marantz-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4725/~/hdr-format-compatibility Link to post Share on other sites
VJM87 5 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 13/01/2020 at 11:45 PM, Lukeqc said: Keep an eye out on eBay. I just got an open box sr7013 for just over $2k. Seemed too good to be true but I rolled the dice and It worked out. Hi Steve Did you like it so far? Please post your opinion. I am looking for an AVR too and would like to hear your thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites
H.E. Pennypacker 1,177 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) I have a NAD T-758v3 I’d be willing to move for $1200 for anyone looking. They are very low in power though, but great as a processor, you just need to add power amps. Edited April 8, 2020 by H.E. Pennypacker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bizzibee 46 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 On 08/04/2020 at 11:42 AM, H.E. Pennypacker said: I have a NAD T-758v3 I’d be willing to move for $1200 for anyone looking. They are very low in power though, but great as a processor, you just need to add power amps. You should put your NAD T-758v3 as a For Sale item in the Classifieds - Home Theatre / Visual here: https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/forum/261-classifieds-home-theatre-visual/ I'm sure you will get a buyer. Your pricing is consistant with other NAD T-758v3 offered for sale. See: Link to post Share on other sites
rhcp_steve 2 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 08/04/2020 at 11:42 AM, H.E. Pennypacker said: I have a NAD T-758v3 I’d be willing to move for $1200 for anyone looking. They are very low in power though, but great as a processor, you just need to add power amps. I’ve sent you a PM Link to post Share on other sites
bizzibee 46 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 18 hours ago, rhcp_steve said: I’ve sent you a PM Hi rhcp_steve, Hope H.E. Pennypacker still has the NAD T-758v3 available. Anyway, good luck with your PM. 😀👍 Link to post Share on other sites
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